do you turn the lights off when you veg?... And if so, how long?

[Seamaiden]

This is precisely where cultivation and husbandry become an ART. Do we all at least agree on that much?

 

[Funkadelic]

Well I posted to answer the question posed. Question for you...Why do you give a fuck why/where/when I post? MGG

I super don't. Was hoping you'd be half as informative As you are hostile.

 

[Mr_GreenGenes]

Well I'm SUPER glad that you don't lol, I feel all better now. I gave what the thread asked for...what I run and why, not sure what other info you want. I guess you aren't happy unless you have lab experiments and University studies on shit...well I don't have anything like that, and that's not what was asked for here if you bothered to read the thread title. But I'm gonna let this go as I don't see the sense in arguing with someone that uses the word "johnnycakes" in their sig. :) MGG

 

[Jalisco Kid]

The plant adjusts for the light cycle. I happen to notice fastest growth under 24 hours of light. These plants are only 23 days old, already 3 days into 12/12 View attachment 343139View attachment 343140

My question is does that give you more bud? I know what running 24/7 is I never see the weight difference. If not a bigger harvest why run that way? JK

 

[Max Frost]

My question is does that give you more bud? I know what running 24/7 is I never see the weight difference. If not a bigger harvest why run that way? JK

For me, I run 24hrs because it gets me to flowering, and therefore to harvest sooner. I don't think it adds anything to the final yield.

I have run both 24/7 & 18/6 on the same strain under identical conditions & have concluded that my plants under 24 hour light simply grow larger faster. They are a bit slower showing sex than on 18/6, but this means nothing to me since I veg longer than that in any case. So for me...the faster veg is ideal. I also believe a 24 hr schedule makes the plants have more branch development and a tighter internode spacing. (I also believe part of this is due to the T-5's I run). This is just what I've found to be true IME, so for me the advantage swings to the 24 hr schedule.

 

[Topofthecrop]

I also believe a 24 hr schedule makes the plants have more branch development and a tighter internode spacing. (I also believe part of this is due to the T-5's I run).

I used MH to veg for a little while. I got on the T5 wagon and that is what I noticed emiditly. I run on 18/6

 

[Max Frost]

I used MH to veg for a little while. I got on the T5 wagon and that is what I noticed emiditly. I run on 18/6

I started out on MH too. It's a great veg light, but IMHO, nothing stacks nodes like a T-5! I think they are a superior veg light.

 

[Funkadelic]

24/7 t5 banks. Yep.

 

[squiggly]

If you want taller plants a dark period helps with etoliation (stretching) as the plants look for the light. Probably best for methods like sog and scrog to use a dark period for this reason (fill the space/screen faster). It probably stands to reason that plants do different stuff at night versus the day--but who knows what those specifics are for cannabis. I try to give plants the best approximation to outside that I can, not necessarily for reasons relating to production but rather because I don't want to have a negative effect on the evolution of the plant/strain because I'm confining it to a rigid regimen of exact environmental factors. The strain that performs well under those conditions might totally fail in the wild. I look at my journey with pot as one of husbandry rather than domination.

 

[Funkadelic]

Excellent philosophy bud. Dig it.

I would think dark period for stretching would be more useful for trees and for getting little indicas taller....

 

[Beastgrow]

I understand you 18/6 all argue about energy savings... Go get a job you bums and switch to 24 hours of light if you are able. Like many others I have experienced faster growth for my plants under 24 hours of light.. and yes more nodes, not height. Overall plant mass and leaf to stem ratio is good under 24 hours. dark periods will decrease the leaf to stem ratio... Stems aren't very good for anything but giving the leaves their own space to absorb light.

 

[ken dog]

lol... and while you're at it, get yourself some LEDs as well...:)

 

[Beastgrow]

I used MH to veg for a little while. I got on the T5 wagon and that is what I noticed emiditly. I run on 18/6

I think this has to do with the light distance. The light intensity of the MH might be the same but the distance causes a stretch.. They both would produce same leaf patterns and stuff with same light intensity. Distance & Darkness cause stretching from my experience..

 

[Beastgrow]

lol... and while you're at it, get yourself some LEDs as well...:)

Once the price is comparable I will... They are 5 or 6 times too expensive currently.

 

[ken dog]

I get my LED's for approximately 3 dollars for each 3 watt bulb. Much better than the average cost of 4.20 per 3 watt bulb.

I've gotten all my LED's at HTG Supply... and I try to cover at least 50 to 60 watts per square foot.
I use LEDs exclusively for all phases of growth.

 

[Beastgrow]

You have a good LED there Ken. Your Scrog and light distance are really maximizing utility of those lights! I'm not familiar much with scrogs but would it be beneficial to have a little side lighting? excuse me if I just didn't see that you already had side lighting.

 

[ken dog]

I don't have side lighting, you are correct.

I think that side lighting lends itself better for trees... but that is simply my opinion.

thank you for noticing.:)
here's a picture for everyone else... 30 days old from out of the clone machine, and one and a half weeks into flower.

 

[Seamaiden]

I understand you 18/6 all argue about energy savings... Go get a job you bums and switch to 24 hours of light if you are able. Like many others I have experienced faster growth for my plants under 24 hours of light.. and yes more nodes, not height. Overall plant mass and leaf to stem ratio is good under 24 hours. dark periods will decrease the leaf to stem ratio... Stems aren't very good for anything but giving the leaves their own space to absorb light.

Do you have any idea how many growers here are truly medical growers just getting by? Not everyone here is a baller growing for profit. Not by a long shot.

 

[ken dog]

absolutely!... Most of us are not going for profit, we are growing for our personal medicine, and/or as a hobby.

by the way, the plant in that picture vegged for 2 1/2 weeks on 24 /7 schedule

 

[Topofthecrop]

I don't have side lighting, you are correct.

I think that side lighting lends itself better for trees... but that is simply my opinion.

thank you for noticing.:)
here's a picture for everyone else... 30 days old from out of the clone machine, and one and a half weeks into flower.View attachment 343628 View attachment 343629

I'd like to see this finished product. I always see led grows but never the dry.