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[Delerium]

sounds like a busy day. I can't relate to having to deal with cold man only heat issues in the summer. sprays foam insulation is the shit but expensive.

confu

good thing in socal is at least you know how hot it will be all the time.
I found maintains the enviro was easier down south. only thing in the winter i needed for a week or 2 was a heater for the rez

 

[Confuten1]

2 degrees 62%

bbuuurrrrrr!

 

[Delerium]

Just put some Canna Coco into a 4" Airpot to see how fast it goes through.
Big diff than promix for sure.
Stuff goes right out the bottom but not out the sides, which was what I'm looking for.
Do the smart pots leak out the side with coco?
I planted one pot ever in Ocean Forest years ago on a friends rec to try it.
IME the ocean forest in the airpots dried out so fast, u had to water it everyday, But it also came out the sides which was no good.
So when there are plants with roots in it and their filling the pot, I wonder if it will shoot out the side.

I'll most def be adding halo rings or drip eventually anyway. Running coco.

 

[nightmarecreature]

@nightmarecreature
Drip clean does not list vinegar as an ingredient.

Did you figure since it works well to clean pots and trays it would work well on plants???

White vinegar is a fungicide and most are made from petroleum products, I would not want that on or in my medicine.

When applied to the roots, it also possibly wreaked havoc on all the fungi you added.

White vinegar is Good for cleaning salts off containers.

Apple cider vinegar is natural fungicide and possibly a better choice?? + Apple cider vinegar can contain up to 30 trace elements. I know it is popular for health purposes.
fungicide = fungi death, maybe better off building up the good rather than taking a chance on killing it off.


fyi, appears like you put the airpots together upside down. the closed holes go on top. then fill to the the closed holes, that allows the water to flow down.

Peace

I think people are not comprehending and skipping around thinking I'm using white vinegar and adding it to my nute mix, NO.

Drip clean and vinegar are completely different. It can be used as a substitute for drip clean. You don't add white vinegar to anything, it's used only as a flush once or bimonthly. Drip clean is a waste of money. Vinegar is only used at 10ml per gallon and clears out the salts really well for $3 that lasts years.

I'm not worried about killing my bennies at that point, my bennies get replaced after the flush and get replaced regularly. You should only worry about it if you're killing your bennies on a daily basis, at which I'm not.

The White Vinegar works perfect. Not one ill effect on my plants. They love a good flush!

 

[nightmarecreature]

1 cup Ancient Forest
1 Gram Root Bloom
1ml Sea Green
1ml Roots Excelerator fermented brew
1TBS Veganic Special Sauce
4 TBS Molasses
3 gallons of Water

 

[nightmarecreature]

 

[Delerium]

Evening Nightmare. Dropping some clones into coco with 4" airpots tonight.

 

[nightmarecreature]

I have not read anything about white vinegar being made from petrol. I have made alcohol before and if you expose it to oxygen and ferment it further , it will turn to vinegar.

I started growing Wasabi plants from Japan. They take 18 months to mature and they grow perfect under your canopy, they don't like much light. They can help with cancer and are very medicinal.

 

[leadsled]

I think people are not comprehending and skipping around thinking I'm using white vinegar and adding it to my nute mix, NO.

Drip clean and vinegar are completely different. It can be used as a substitute for drip clean. You don't add white vinegar to anything, it's used only as a flush once or bimonthly. Drip clean is a waste of money. Vinegar is only used at 10ml per gallon and clears out the salts really well for $3 that lasts years.

I'm not worried about killing my bennies at that point, my bennies get replaced after the flush and get replaced regularly. You should only worry about it if you're killing your bennies on a daily basis, at which I'm not.

The White Vinegar works perfect. Not one ill effect on my plants. They love a good flush!

Good that you clear that up for people using your techniques. I do agree that it cleans salts well. I am anal about growing fungi so do not want to use a fungicide on my plants.

I have not read anything about white vinegar being made from petrol. I have made alcohol before and if you expose it to oxygen and ferment it further , it will turn to vinegar.

I see now you are using Heinz, Maybe best to specify that or else folks may get the cheapo stuff made from petrol. I was also not aware of many brand of vinegar being made from petrol, until someone gave me a heads up. Now I am passing it along.

In summary, vinegar’s key ingredient is alcohol. The transformation of wine or fruit juice to vinegar is a chemical process in which ethyl alcohol undergoes partial oxidation that results in the formation of acetaldehyde. The acetaldehyde is converted into acetic acid. The global demand of acetic acid is around 6.5 million tons per year (Mt/a), of which approximately 1.5 Mt/a is met by recycling; the remainder is manufactured from petrochemical feedstocks or from biological sources. And this from Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms Division, Internal Revenue Service :“Presently, we authorize the manufacture of vinegar from ethyl alcohol synthesized from natural gas or petroleum derivatives. It is our opinion that most of the distilled spirits used in the production of vinegar are derived from natural gas and petroleum…” Now, don’t ask me why the ATF and IRS are involved in this whole thing. I don’t think I really want to know, but the point is about 75% of the vinegar on the market is made from a petroleum derivitive. BUT!!!!! The author of the post at Tiny Changes (the link above) did some research and found that Heinz uses only fermented grains for its white vinegar and apples, of course, for its cider vinegar. So, I guess I need to check the label on my cheap Walmart brand vinegar and if it is, indeed, made from petrochemicals, then I’ll be patronizing Heinz.

Heinz all natural is stated as not made from petrol and one of the few.

Heinz® Distilled White and Apple Cider Vinegars are all natural, made only from corn or apples and crystal-clear water.

Thanks for sharing and not taking my input as an attack on your posts. Was only intended to help out.

Kindness

 

[nightmarecreature]

I hope to turn this Wasabi plant into a mother. I will clone the hell out of it. I might send some out to fellow farmers if they are interested. Any anti cancer plant is a great plant!

99% of Wasabi at sushi restaurants is actually horseradish with green food colo

Good that you clear that up for people using your techniques. I do agree that it cleans salts well. I am anal about growing fungi so do not want to use a fungicide on my plants.



I see now you are using Heinz, Maybe best to specify that or else folks may get the cheapo stuff made from petrol. I was also not aware of many brand of vinegar being made from petrol, until someone gave me a heads up. Now I am passing it along.




Heinz all natural is stated as not made from petrol and one of the few.


Thanks for sharing and not taking my input as an attack on your posts. Was only intended to help out.

Kindness

I bought some Apple Cider vinegar to give it a shot.
I'll use it next flush and measure ppm run off. Then whenever I need another flush, I'll measure run off with the white vinegar. I'm guessing it will work the same.

Botanicare sent me a free sample of the Clearex. Clearex says Citric acid and inert ingredients. Vinegar is acetic acid and Clearex is Citric acid.

 

[Lowman]

apple cider vinegar attracts fungus gnats.

 

[nightmarecreature]

apple cider vinegar attracts fungus gnats.

Your right, I remember making a trap years ago with a bowl of apple cider vinegar and soap. They would drown in it. I'll look into citric acid. Hopefully it won't attract them.

 

[nightmarecreature]

Does anyone have any information as to what is better for our plants.

Anaerobic fungi and bacteria or aerobic fungi and bacteria?

I want to know because it's so much easier to ferment a brew than to bubble it.

Maybe Caps can comment on this because I'm sure he has more experience with this type of information.

 

[neverbreak]

much respect for takin the time to write that up bro. kudos.

I started growing Wasabi plants from Japan. They take 18 months to mature and they grow perfect under your canopy, they don't like much light. They can help with cancer and are very medicinal.

how do ya use the wasabi ya grow?

neverbreak

 

[nightmarecreature]

much respect for takin the time to write that up bro. kudos.



how do ya use the wasabi ya grow?

neverbreak

I've never grown it, I received the plant a couple days ago. I did a bunch of research, it's a perfect companion to cannabis under the canopy. Wasabi grows like a radish,carrot, it's the root you mainly use. After a year 18 months, You pull the root up and grate it.

 

[Delerium]

Does anyone have any information as to what is better for our plants.

Anaerobic fungi and bacteria or aerobic fungi and bacteria?

I want to know because it's so much easier to ferment a brew than to bubble it.

Maybe Caps can comment on this because I'm sure he has more experience with this type of information.

Did you find anything out on that yet? Seems like aerobic since they will be in a aerobic environment, but I would like to look into that too. I know water activates some bacteria like roots excel. They are dormant in the bottle until it hits water according to their reps.

 

[nightmarecreature]

So far it's looking like Aerobic is the winner because Anaerobic produce toxins that are not good for plants. I'm sure it's a lot more complex than that. Diversity seems to be the key.

I brewed a tea and it was going for four days, it smelled good for three days. I turned off my air pump for one day and it was starting to smell slightly of sulfur and rotting fruit. I just fed it to all my plants before it went completely bad. This is the first time I fed them 1tbs of Veganics.

 

[Delerium]

What about using top shooter or shooting powder early than week 6? (last 3 weeks of flower) I run usually 9 weekers.
On one run I had accidentally given the plants for a feeding the shooting powder before the top booster.
The flowers pushed out more calyxes. As if they just branched off. I was a bit concerned that they were going to rattail. I personally don't like rat tailing, Poor bag appeal.
anyway they are banging huge nugs now.
That being said would it be detrimental to start using the top shooter or shooting powder earlier to pack on more flowers.
Will the plants have an adverse affect?

 

[nightmarecreature]

I was told it's ok to use shooting powder at 1/4 strength at the beginning of flower.

 

[Delerium]

I was curious about that, I just didn't want my flowers looking all mutated.
Week 4 after a hiccup, so the plants are looking good now Nightmare. Didn't want to over do it right after they corrected themselves. I should take new pics post em on my thread. Total night and day difference then 2 weeks ago.