The History of OG Kush

[Gamrstwin36]

totally possible and good thinkin I remember some old hand on OG going off for years that the delicate phenos of all weed were the most potent and we've all seen them super dank slow starter runts .....I here the florida crippy has some good balls like og and I got a friend here that just got it.......

Isnt the crippy the original tk? Enjoying the knowledge..
Respect

 

[SpiderK]

( BCGA )

Time 06:16, 2 Jan 1999
From Old Timer (2)

Old Timer (1)

The 'strain' I was concerned about perhaps having 'Ruderallis' predates both
SSSC and the Seed Bank (Nevil's). It was developed in the late 1970's or early
1980's - I know it was around prior to 1983 according the the anecdotal
information that was given to me.

I saw a plant, grown from clone, and it was about 3 ft high and was absolutely
gorgeous - strong, Afghani-dominate but with a very pecuilar aroma when I
rubbed the stalk. Like I said earlier the 'back' smell was similiar to Nepalese
Sativa.

Then the fellolw showed me a 'Poloroid' of the strain in bloom and I was absolutely
floored on the size of the colas.

THEN he really blew my mind when he stated that it finished in 42 days or less -
now either one of two things are true:

1. He is correct and this is wonderful.

2. He didn't know didly-squat about how to tell when a plant if finishing.

And the reason I was concerned about Ruderallis is that I had read somewhere
several years ago in 'Sinsimillia Tips' magazine that strains with Ruderallis finish
very early and have huge buds - so I hope this strain isn't some weird deal that's
all show and the end result is a joke.

Like I said I was just given a couple of clones and I never did finish them off
because I was moving and had to shut down for several months. But I DID cross
these clones with a pure Afghani 'hash-plant' strain from AFOF.

And THOSE seeds I planted a couple of weeks ago are on their set of 'true'
leaves and it is very Indica and extremely strong smelling - typical 'skunk' kind of
aromas.

That's what I do and do not know about my mystery plants. LOL

Dr. Evil - Any information you miight have on this Velvet Rush would be
appreciated. I planted 10 seeds 3 days ago and 5 are pushing out of the soil this
morning. If it IS a 'sativa' I'll be happy - I have some great pure Afghani moms I
can cross it with.

And I will keep you in mind on a couple of other strains I have - African Sativa
(pure), 2 different pure Afghani strains that have NEVER been fooled with by
breeders - came direct from Afghanistan to America from the Brotherhood of
Eternal Love in Laguna Beach, CA and of course the Velvet Rush seeds - I have
over 200 left.

And I'll be interested in reading more about the Osram 400-watt HPS - it's be
perfect for my 'Poot' fixture - my favorite ballast and hood - bar none.

Thanks to OT (1), Nevi and Dr. Evil for your help and comments.

 

[SpiderK]

Time 17:27, 1 Jan 1999
From oldtimer1

You cant tell if the gene is in a plant by the look. A friend of ours was developing
a version of white widow from a Canadian source extremely potent and resinous
after several generations auto flowering turned up so they destroyed the whole
line seed stock and all. Why do you think there might be ruderalis in your strain it
seems pretty unlikely to me. A couple of Canadian seed banks have used it quite
a lot . In Holland its hardly been used at all, Nevil experimented with itand
dropped it.Sensi sell a hybrid version and it is in Swiss miss / myst but thats
about it. Pure Nepalese is one thing I would like to have, it has the instant rush
that comes from thcv.
Sorry I cant help more.Ot1.

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Time 02:52, 2 Jan 1999
From Dr. Evil

Happy New Year everybody,

Budm And OT1 (I hope), you have new mail.
Budm: Sorry to hear about the problem with the western winds. I had that happen
a while back with some jamaican seeds, and it is always a disapointment. The
shiske x big plum are doing well, 5 of 7 have broken the surface, the largest 2 are
about 2 1/2" tall and working on their first true leaf. It will be interesting to see
what combination of characteristics this cross comes up with.

Eric: I think a coordinated approach to developing the PR is a good idea. If we all
work together on this we can cover a lot of ground quickly.

OT2: I wonder if your velvet rush seeds are any relation to blue velvet, which I
believe was produced out of Oregon stock. The blue velvet is supposedly pure
sativa (according to the seedbank, Sensi?). I'll look up where I saw the reference
and post it if you want. P. S. I am quite interested in swapping some stock, but
need some time to get together some appropriate return swap material and make
space to give yours a proper home. So keep me in mind!

Dr. Evil


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Time 05:44, 5 Jan 1999
From OT (2)

Dr. Evel

Thanks a million. At the very least the seeds I have identified as 'Velvet Rush' are
either the 'Blue Velvet' or the parent.

The one time that I did grow the seeds back in 1990 to rejuvenate the genetics
and create new seeds the few ladies I let finish unpollinated looked EXACTLY like
the photograph.

I was NOT able to let them finish as professionally as I wanted and since I wasn't
going to 'switch' over to that strain I never gave it much thought - but the bud I did
get was really cerebral and long-lasting.

RE: BEL - from just having the genetics you mentioned I would think that your
friend was, in fact, a member of the BEL. Quite an exciting time. Insofar as LSD -
the BEL was the group that manufactured and distributedthe most popular
psychadellic of all time - Orange Sunshine which was TECHNICALLY not LSD-25
but a smiliar ergot - ALD-52.

Check it out - the decision was made to use ALD-52 because it was much more
stable for shipping and storing. LSD-25 is very unstable and virtually has not
shelflife before it starts to change properties.

Peace.

 

[urban1026835]

Is there a way to make a thread with pics only? Just curious as I think it would be pretty sweet if we had one that these al could be documented in without mine and everyone elses opinions clogging up the thread.

Myself personally I love the added info but it can be distracting when I am trying to go back through and locate certain pictures of certain cuts.

Is that even possible to do?

 

[symbiote420]

Is there a way to make a thread with pics only? Just curious as I think it would be pretty sweet if we had one that these al could be documented in without mine and everyone elses opinions clogging up the thread.

Myself personally I love the added info but it can be distracting when I am trying to go back through and locate certain pictures of certain cuts.

Is that even possible to do?

There is a clone only OG thread here!

 

[urban1026835]

I know but I want to know if it is possible to somehow edit a thread so no comments can be made only pics

 

[SpiderK]

So cats in 1998 talking about the soaring high of the pure nepalese .... maybe bodhi's nepali kush should be looked into more, no ???? not many of those cuts on the boards today & only a few spoke about her in the early icmag / og kush days .....

Has bodhi ever posted pictures of his nepali kush online ..... ????

 

[Gamrstwin36]

So cats in 1998 talking about the soaring high of the pure nepalese .... maybe bodhi's nepali kush should be looked into more, no ???? not many of those cuts on the boards today & only a few spoke about her in the early icmag / og kush days .....

Has bodhi ever posted pictures of his nepali kush online ..... ????

You took the thought outta my head. Im gonna look into that, again, makes.sense..
Respect

 

[SpiderK]

You took the thought outta my head. Im gonna look into that, again, makes.sense..
Respect

maybe pass the word and have bodhi drop some pictures in this thread, i do not post on other sites .... but ......., bodhi does not show much parent stock online like the others so its a crap shoot ....

 

[TheCoolestMan]

So cats in 1998 talking about the soaring high of the pure nepalese .... maybe bodhi's nepali kush should be looked into more, no ???? not many of those cuts on the boards today & only a few spoke about her in the early icmag / og kush days .....

Has bodhi ever posted pictures of his nepali kush online ..... ????

I heard this nepali cut is the Tahoe OG. People have been speculating that they are related somehow.

 

[SpiderK]

I heard this nepali cut is the Tahoe OG. People have been speculating that they are related somehow.

i agree 100%. but id say it started out as nepali & changed into tahoe once the cuts were sold and tahoe was regarded as one of the best in the beginning. .... nepali is mentioned in all the older post i quoted predating swerve by a few years .... and the guy bodhi linked to that posted pure nepali kush pics in ograskals thread ...

 

[urban1026835]

There is a clone only OG thread here!

sorry i thought i was in th c/o og thread my apologies guys.

 

[sanvanalona]

It appears that they have stumbled upon something I have been saying for a while, most of the og's are in fact the same cut. The doc points out that a few are from bagseed but seriously most are just the same cut. I just ran the hardcore, sfv, fire, and tahoe and they were all identical. Funny how people will always be trying to brand shit they have nothing to do with.

 

[Skunkmasterflex]

So cats in 1998 talking about the soaring high of the pure nepalese .... maybe bodhi's nepali kush should be looked into more, no ???? not many of those cuts on the boards today & only a few spoke about her in the early icmag / og kush days .....

Has bodhi ever posted pictures of his nepali kush online ..... ????

Not sure if he's posted pics of the Nepal kush but I pheno hunted the cross he did with the snow lotus male. My picture is the one used at attitude and other spots those seeds were sold and I remember him saying it looked very similar to the mama.... it was a really earthy kush type og, there was no lemon pledge involved. Also it put out pretty fay buds that were rock hard dense. Real nice structure similar to what we all know as og kush but the stretch wasn't as wild and the branching was more stable

 

[TheCoolestMan]

I do not agree with that statement @sanvanalona I grew Tahoe and SFV and they are two differents plants, at least in my garden. tahoe is short SFV is lanky.

Ghost, Tahoe, SFV, Fire OG doesn't seems to be the same plants to me. What about Larry?

I grew many of CC OG crosses when they used their SFV bx3 male. If The Fire was the same cut as others used, all hybrids woudl of end up giving the same offsprings, which wasn't the case.

I think their's a lot of confusion coming out the Adam show. They jump on conclusion a bit too quick for my taste.

There's no evidence that prove OGR cut is the same as this K.OG. As anyone here heard of K.OG before?

Yet there's no evidence that this K.OG is in fact the Ghost cut ! Neither the Tahoe.

Yet orgnkid claims the "Ghost"cut is the first original OG Kush, yet others claim
the TK is the original OG.

 

[Frostynugman]

It appears that they have stumbled upon something I have been saying for a while, most of the og's are in fact the same cut. The doc points out that a few are from bagseed but seriously most are just the same cut. I just ran the hardcore, sfv, fire, and tahoe and they were all identical. Funny how people will always be trying to brand shit they have nothing to do with.

Um... NO I have grown tahoe , OG1 and SFV Side by Side to eachother and they are all different and grow the same but ALWAYS DIFFERENT NUGS.

 

[sanvanalona]

Um... NO I have grown tahoe , OG1 and SFV Side by Side to eachother and they are all different and grow the same but ALWAYS DIFFERENT NUGS.

Well then we had different results Frosty. I saw no difference at all, not from any of the ones I named. I sourced mine from a few different sources so I assume they are legit, let me fish some photos and we can all vote ourselves.

 

[sanvanalona]

I do not agree with that statement @sanvanalona I grew Tahoe and SFV and they are two differents plants, at least in my garden. tahoe is short SFV is lanky.

Ghost, Tahoe, SFV, Fire OG doesn't seems to be the same plants to me. What about Larry?

I grew many of CC OG crosses when they used their SFV bx3 male. If The Fire was the same cut as others used, all hybrids woudl of end up giving the same offsprings, which wasn't the case.

I think their's a lot of confusion coming out the Adam show. They jump on conclusion a bit too quick for my taste.

There's no evidence that prove OGR cut is the same as this K.OG. As anyone here heard of K.OG before?

Yet there's no evidence that this K.OG is in fact the Ghost cut ! Neither the Tahoe.

Yet orgnkid claims the "Ghost"cut is the first original OG Kush, yet others claim
the TK is the original OG.

The Tahoe (sourced in Grass Valley) and the SFV and fire were all identical in my garden. I have never seen a squat Tahoe, but that is not to say it doesn't exist. In fact I grew a "tahoe og" from Swerve and did a pheno hunt and ended with a very close sfv, but with more og....unfortunately that mom went auto on me.

I am not saying that people aren't passing s1's as various names, that happens all the time and would explain the confusion.

Personally, I never saw anybody label the og's different names until Swerve got into the game, and that seemed like an obvious ploy to add more "strains" to his arsenal. IMO

 

[Frostynugman]

Well then we had different results Frosty. I saw no difference at all, not from any of the ones I named. I sourced mine from a few different sources so I assume they are legit, let me fish some photos and we can all vote ourselves.

No Doubt, I wasnt trying to jump down your throat, but the subtle difference between sfv and tahoe and og are there. Tahoe has way more structure than og1 and sfv's stone is in your eyes not your full body IMO.

 

[true grit]

Not sure if he's posted pics of the Nepal kush but I pheno hunted the cross he did with the snow lotus male. My picture is the one used at attitude and other spots those seeds were sold and I remember him saying it looked very similar to the mama.... it was a really earthy kush type og, there was no lemon pledge involved. Also it put out pretty fay buds that were rock hard dense. Real nice structure similar to what we all know as og kush but the stretch wasn't as wild and the branching was more stable

Shoot the Tahoe i run is straight super earthy OG almost pine earthy, so sounds pretty close.

It appears that they have stumbled upon something I have been saying for a while, most of the og's are in fact the same cut. The doc points out that a few are from bagseed but seriously most are just the same cut. I just ran the hardcore, sfv, fire, and tahoe and they were all identical. Funny how people will always be trying to brand shit they have nothing to do with.

The Tahoe (sourced in Grass Valley) and the SFV and fire were all identical in my garden. I have never seen a squat Tahoe, but that is not to say it doesn't exist. In fact I grew a "tahoe og" from Swerve and did a pheno hunt and ended with a very close sfv, but with more og....unfortunately that mom went auto on me.

I am not saying that people aren't passing s1's as various names, that happens all the time and would explain the confusion.

Personally, I never saw anybody label the og's different names until Swerve got into the game, and that seemed like an obvious ploy to add more "strains" to his arsenal. IMO

Hmm, very different experiences IMO. Yes the legit Fire, SFV, and Tahoe all look somewhat similar (because they are OG's), but growth, nugs and finished product are WAY different. Fire IMO, is a little stouter but very finicky for me even in super soil that crushes for the other two. Fire yields big, as does SFV but both have different shaped nugs and finished flavor/smell. Tahoe is lower yielder, slightly lankier and much different finished smell for me- no lemon, straight earthy pine dank. Other two are varying degrees of lemon funk.

The HA is different than those both growth and finished nugs. TK seems hardier than all of them growth wise IMO (2 cuts I've tried), but was very similar to SFV flowering...one was a bit earthier than SFV and bout to flip second cut which samples were much skunkier than other OGs.