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those are old pics of yours correct ?
cannapits
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yes they arent pics from this year as I havent been able to grow since 2011. they arent taking in cuts. they are sending in flower samples to be tested and yes from people as close to the sources as they can get. doesnt matter what they call them the guy says they can tell what comes from what and shares what genes. really showuld listen to show starting around 45 mins or so. thats when the lab guy comes in
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I recommend anyone truly interested go back to show 1 and start there as most if not all ?'s that have been asked were gone over but best get some popcorn because there is 7 hours of sho dedicated to this topic..mostly though todays show ent over the OGENOME PROJECT and IMO they did a very thorough job explaining the nuances of the testing and how it works.
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sorry@ cannapits, which part are u confused? U know Big Ricky right? Thought u was one of his bro from the swap. Are u cannabullies from another site?
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i understand that having buds tested from random people not knowing if the plant providing them is an original ? thats the problem, someone could be calling something t.k. and it really an s4 of something else ....
so what information could possible be taken from that ?
& who's giving samples more " insiders " who have a vested interest in steering this ? like the ones on icmag ? i'd like to see a list of those donating samples .... and wouldn't dna samples be taken from tissue instead of dried bud samples ?
so what information could possible be taken from that ?
& who's giving samples more " insiders " who have a vested interest in steering this ? like the ones on icmag ? i'd like to see a list of those donating samples .... and wouldn't dna samples be taken from tissue instead of dried bud samples ?
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puss, charles kush, nepali , dwarf, blue orca..... some of the originals.
and the show has had holes in it from the start. the host have no clue & the b.s. has been rolling since the first video air'd ....
and the show has had holes in it from the start. the host have no clue & the b.s. has been rolling since the first video air'd ....
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To claim someone has 'Viking ancestors' is no better than astrology
Exaggerated claims from genetic ancestry testing companies undermine serious research into human genetic history
But saying where, and in what ethnic group, that common ancestor lived is considerably more speculative. In the hands of "genetic ancestry testing" companies this speculation almost invariably comes from the murky world of interpretative phylogeography – an approach to "reading" our genetic history that is easily steered by subjective biases, has never been scientifically shown to work and, in some forms, has been explicitly shown not to work.
So saying this or that Y chromosome came to Britain with the Roman legions, or that Oprah Winfrey has Zulu mitochondrial DNA, is just storytelling. Stories are fine if it is made clear that is all they are. But science isn't about telling stories, it's about testing them (in science we prefer the term hypothesis testing).
The simplicity of how Y chromosome and mitochondrial DNA are inherited is part of their appeal in ancestry testing: you don't have to worry about that inconvenient doubling of your ancestors with each generation back in time. You only have one father, one father's father, etc.
But the price of that simplicity is irrelevance: those two lineages represent a rapidly diminishing fraction of your ancestry the further back in time you go. It may be the case that your mitochondrial DNA lineage came to Britain with the Vikings – although that would be extremely difficult to demonstrate scientifically – but if true, this would still say very little about your origins.
There are some situations where Y chromosome or mitochondrial DNA information can be useful. It is, for example, reasonable to use large samples of these DNA types to say something about the histories of populations, if analyses are performed carefully and at the population level. Also, if genealogical research (parish records, surnames, etc.) suggests that two men share a common male line ancestor in the 16th century, the Y chromosome could be used to support or reject this claim. But individual Y chromosome or mitochondrial DNA types provide no more than the vaguest hint about where their ancestors lived hundreds, or thousands of years ago.
http://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2013/feb/25/viking-ancestors-astrology
Exaggerated claims from genetic ancestry testing companies undermine serious research into human genetic history
But saying where, and in what ethnic group, that common ancestor lived is considerably more speculative. In the hands of "genetic ancestry testing" companies this speculation almost invariably comes from the murky world of interpretative phylogeography – an approach to "reading" our genetic history that is easily steered by subjective biases, has never been scientifically shown to work and, in some forms, has been explicitly shown not to work.
So saying this or that Y chromosome came to Britain with the Roman legions, or that Oprah Winfrey has Zulu mitochondrial DNA, is just storytelling. Stories are fine if it is made clear that is all they are. But science isn't about telling stories, it's about testing them (in science we prefer the term hypothesis testing).
The simplicity of how Y chromosome and mitochondrial DNA are inherited is part of their appeal in ancestry testing: you don't have to worry about that inconvenient doubling of your ancestors with each generation back in time. You only have one father, one father's father, etc.
But the price of that simplicity is irrelevance: those two lineages represent a rapidly diminishing fraction of your ancestry the further back in time you go. It may be the case that your mitochondrial DNA lineage came to Britain with the Vikings – although that would be extremely difficult to demonstrate scientifically – but if true, this would still say very little about your origins.
There are some situations where Y chromosome or mitochondrial DNA information can be useful. It is, for example, reasonable to use large samples of these DNA types to say something about the histories of populations, if analyses are performed carefully and at the population level. Also, if genealogical research (parish records, surnames, etc.) suggests that two men share a common male line ancestor in the 16th century, the Y chromosome could be used to support or reject this claim. But individual Y chromosome or mitochondrial DNA types provide no more than the vaguest hint about where their ancestors lived hundreds, or thousands of years ago.
http://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2013/feb/25/viking-ancestors-astrology
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....... " And to get to the Bubba .. kush AKA Purple Kush x bubble gum .... " - orgnkid 2004 ( the story changer )
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Been meaning to post these. Some Blue Orca for you guys in case you have not seen it and wanted a nug reference.
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@tweedy
do you have some plant shots in veg or flower , mother .....? seen u post these pics in the past ....
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mk ultra - 2004
purple kush - 2004
pine tar kush - 2004
purple kush - 2004
pine tar kush - 2004
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maybe someone can drop info from overgrow's strain guide ?
A-B-SEEDS , Blk Label, Bonguru's, Cali_kush_seeds .... ? Joey weed, jointdoctor ? joker ? Plural_of kush _Collection ?
A-B-SEEDS , Blk Label, Bonguru's, Cali_kush_seeds .... ? Joey weed, jointdoctor ? joker ? Plural_of kush _Collection ?
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(Plural_of kush _Collection) overgrow.com
Hindu Kush crossed with White Giant.
These seeds were grown organically in a controlled outdoor environment at a high altitude in the Swiss Alps. The fathers were Pure Hindu Kush F1's (Sensi) and each mother was a verified clone from a productive line. They were bred organically outdoors in a semi-protected environment; the advantage of this method of large scale outdoor breeding program is that the sheer volume of males available allows the breeder to select, from a huge gene pool, only the largest and fastest maturing males with stable genetic characteristics.
This collection allows you to sample some of the most popular strains combined with the stabilizing traits of the ever popular Hindu Kush.
Hindu Kush crossed with White Giant.
These seeds were grown organically in a controlled outdoor environment at a high altitude in the Swiss Alps. The fathers were Pure Hindu Kush F1's (Sensi) and each mother was a verified clone from a productive line. They were bred organically outdoors in a semi-protected environment; the advantage of this method of large scale outdoor breeding program is that the sheer volume of males available allows the breeder to select, from a huge gene pool, only the largest and fastest maturing males with stable genetic characteristics.
This collection allows you to sample some of the most popular strains combined with the stabilizing traits of the ever popular Hindu Kush.
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cannapits
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yes I know ricky in the real world. not sure where the hes in CO part came from as hes doesnt live in CO.
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https://www.facebook.com/TheAdamDunnShow send them a message and express your concerns or just plain tell them its not gonna work cause you know better bro. or if a member at the cabanna hit mitch up directly. im moving on to something else. not my project or my concern really. im just the messanger.
TheCoolestMan
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My bad
my bad I meant CA...
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sure he can find our thread. adam needs to do some research ....
i know better because i can research papers discussing the dna debate regarding ancestry ..... it all speculation in the eyes of the testers. nothing can be proven the debate has raged for years in the dna testing community ....
i know better because i can research papers discussing the dna debate regarding ancestry ..... it all speculation in the eyes of the testers. nothing can be proven the debate has raged for years in the dna testing community ....
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I work at a collective so as far as veg/flower shots of this plant, do not have them. However, my buddy is the one who brought it in so I can see what I can do about getting him to take some pictures. They did an outdoor light dep this year so I will have some outdoor shots of Blue Orca as well. He has a thread up on IC but I do not link to other sites as it is a big no no.
I am getting a clone from him soon enough but will take a pic of the baby when it shows up on my doorstep.
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