2kw Neville’s Haze - First Rdwc Grow

KushMan707 · Feb 11, 2015

FooDoo said:
Because the light isn't what's killing it. Your logic makes no sense. Sorry

the heat or poor ventilation due to it being so close were factors i was considering.

Shamus · Feb 11, 2015

Sadturtle said:
@Shamus thanks!

The Nevilles Haze that is currently growing is going to be a Mother plant only. I wanted to grow a few (4 total?) more mothers under LED only, is there any light you suggest? All mothers are grown in soil and 4" cubes; the goal was to make bonsai mothers for clones :)

I plan to grow the clones under MH/HPS lights, that shouldn't pose an issue should it? I'm assuming growing the clones under LED (& germination station) then switching over to the bulbs & RDWC = bad?

I would suggest this for moms and clones/teens

https://www.google.com/shopping/pro...Qw&ei=Cv_bVKy3EanCsASUxoLQCA&ved=0CL4BEKYrMAQ

KushMan707 · Feb 11, 2015

well i guess that wasnt a good suggestion @Sadturtle and I would have to say so myself. i will say i did take a couple dabs before i looked over your thread though lol sorry.. :/ pulling the light away would never kill your plants though!

Sadturtle · Feb 11, 2015

Thanks FooDoo/Shamus, I should be able to get some from a friend. Neville's Haze is growing pretty well under LED and my friends have had good results with similar lights which is why I used them (plus they were free) :)

Here's some more of my pics from 1/13 till now:

1/13/2015
She's really a hardy plant!

1/20/2015
Neville experiencing what seems to be (or at least what I think is) a potassium deficiency

Closeup of the burns

Closeup of the Stems

1/29/2015
Just watered her, really need to get another pressure sprayer (my old one was used accidentally to bleach the walls)..

Dry shot (before they were watered!)

At the very least, I want to get some nice photos. If anyone is interested I can start using my GoPro or SLR to take better photos.. :) Here's a leaf!

Another stem shot

And some more sick leaves :(

2/10/2015
Top view of Neville

Stem shot

Some 'burned' leaves again, some of the older leaves healed while new ones have formed.

KushMan707 · Feb 12, 2015

You know @Shamus and @FooDoo thats pretty messed up you guys had to bash me like that and @FooDoo twisting my words saying light kills. you made me feel like shit and then when I admit I was wrong you can't even humble yourselves to give a positive reply. all I'm trying to do here at the farm is help and learn as much as possible like anyone else. If Im wrong or make a mistake I would hope someone would help me out instead of telling me how wrong I am.

Shamus · Feb 12, 2015

@KushMan707 I'm sorry man, I tried explaining that more light is needed when they get so thin and tall, as did happy b before me. You were rather adamant on your opinion and everyone is allowed one so I wasn't going to try and sway someone who seemed to have a rather solid stance on the subject. Even in your last post you commented on how less light won't kill.. When it killed some of Sadturtle 's seeds.

I guess I just assume most folks have hardened skins for Internet comments just because I've dealth with a bunch of shit. And that is my fault.

My only advice is check then check again and the possibly even check again when your giving some one advice.. More often than not its life or death for the plants when they're posting up threads asking for help or in this instance very light deprived seedlings.

To get tight internode stacking and thick stems you generally (if using CFL or T5) want the light damn near right on top of them.. No more than a foot I would say.

If you ever have any questions just shoot me a pm man.. I'd be more than happy to help. Least I can do

Keep learning, the farm is an excellent place for that. It's where I've learned a lot. So many excellent growers here and troves of good info

KushMan707 · Feb 12, 2015

thanks @Shamus i appreciate it. i cant tell you why i felt the need to initially defend my suggestion but its over now lol.

donmekka · Feb 12, 2015

Nevils haze is almost pure sativa right?? The one I grew out a long time ago looked nothing like yours. Very thin sativa leafs. just a heads up I grew it from 12/12 from the seed and that bitch ended up over 6 feet tall before got chopped so I hope you have high ceilings she's a tall one. And if it helps I have killed so many damn seeds lights close lights far lights in between I am just hard on em i guess lol fuck it it's only money.

FooDoo · Feb 12, 2015

KushMan707 said:
You know @Shamus and @FooDoo thats pretty messed up you guys had to bash me like that and @FooDoo twisting my words saying light kills. you made me feel like shit and then when I admit I was wrong you can't even humble yourselves to give a positive reply. all I'm trying to do here at the farm is help and learn as much as possible like anyone else. If Im wrong or make a mistake I would hope someone would help me out instead of telling me how wrong I am.

We aren't mommy and daddy here to wipe bums and dripping noses. Man up a little brotha. It's tough love.

KushMan707 · Feb 12, 2015

FooDoo said:
We aren't mommy and daddy here to wipe bums and dripping noses. Man up a little brotha. It's tough love.

You would have something smart to say when you were the one twisting my words around. It seems as though you want to be the "mommy and daddy" since you're showing me "tough love". Sorry but you're being rude.

Shamus · Feb 12, 2015

Please end this here.. (Foodoo too) If you want to discuss it with foodoo then send him a PM, this is sadturtles grow log, not a place to bicker

By the way turtle the plants are looking good man, a little crispy on the edges but I'm sure you'll workt hat out no problem.

I like the pics man

You seeds are doing better than mine..

KushMan707 · Feb 12, 2015

@Sadturtle I apologize for being involved with this obtrusive argument in your thread.

KushMan707 · Feb 12, 2015

That haze is looking nice @Sadturtle the nodes are growing really tight! Those burns don't look bad.. If your worried about it getting worse just water with plain water. shes in some black gold soil right?

Sadturtle · Apr 14, 2015

Hey, its been a while! Finally started practicing with trimming & cloning. Also almost finished the room since the clones are about ready to go into the RDWC setup. A lot of my issues with the burns seemed to have originated from severe underwatering (my friend wasn't doing his part on the watering schedule :( ), luckily it seems most of it is resolved now.

Anyhow, on to the photos :D

3/5/2015
Side view of Neville

3/5/2015
Top view of Neville

3/7/2015
Top view of Neville

3/24/2015
Side view of Neville, lots of browning caused by leaving trimmed leaves/stems in soil. It was a tip taken from a friend, luckily we found out this was bad a week or so later :(

3/28/2015
Plant showing signs of improvement, but just barely.

Critters started showing up, forget the names of these guys but it wasn't too bad. Once I got rid of the dead leaves/stems they disappeared over the next few days.

First cola sprouted! This was when I found out my light schedule was horrifically off (12/12 instead of 18/6). Had to re-adjust light schedule at this point to try to bring it back to veg.