Little white worms eating my seeds!

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Wtf! Been waiting for some seeds to come up so I opened up the rooter to look and little white worms were living inside the seed. Of course it was only on my most expensive StarBud seeds!!! Little mother fuckers! Are they fungun knat larvea?
 
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sure does. what do you have the seeds in - soil? fungus gnat come with shitty soils sometimes. hence why germinating on paper towels is good. removes the possibility of pests and other problems.

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Sounds like it. Any pix?
I went back down to take a pic and they disappeared. They were real fine thread like worms all white.. Actually thought it was roots at first but themn they moved.
sure does. what do you have the seeds in - soil? fungus gnat come with shitty soils sometimes. hence why germinating on paper towels is good. removes the possibility of pests and other problems.

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They went from papertowel to rapid rooters in to Roots 707 mixed with some coco and perlite. Didnt have any problems with the other seeds i started them with just the StarBud seeds. Fucking weird.
 
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Hungry little SatrBud eating bastards!

Tough one for sure since there such little babies

Fix the problem yet or find out the culprit?
 
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Hungry little SatrBud eating bastards!

Tough one for sure since there such little babies

Fix the problem yet or find out the culprit?

I guess it is what it is. They didnt look like fungus knat larvae but they could have been. Everything else is just fine.
They might have come with the coco. Happens sometimes.
That just might be. Ill post up if anything else happens but all is good so far.
 
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That fuckin sux! I had the same shit happen to me a few times, Bud. Last round I lost a few AstroDawg and White Fire beans. Bummed u must be! Keep ur head up, bro.
 
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That fuckin sux! I had the same shit happen to me a few times, Bud. Last round I lost a few AstroDawg and White Fire beans. Bummed u must be! Keep ur head up, bro.
I remember now I was trying to think of who else it was this happened to. Yeah it was a bummer. I got more beans on the way.:D
 
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its the roots!! ive had horrible experiences with roots organics... used twice got gnats once and then 2 years later, tried again and got gnats again. one was indoor one was outdoor, since then i stay away from that soil.
 
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over fertilised media will attract fungus gnats too. so could be a combo of the coco and the roots. ya should give bti a go bro.

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its the roots!! ive had horrible experiences with roots organics... used twice got gnats once and then 2 years later, tried again and got gnats again. one was indoor one was outdoor, since then i stay away from that soil.
I was wondering about that.
over fertilised media will attract fungus gnats too. so could be a combo of the coco and the roots. ya should give bti a go bro.

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I've had problems with the knats since I started with coco never totally getting rid of them i think. I been recycling it quite a few times also. They couldve laid eggs in it. Maybe the roots too who knows.

What is BTI ?Id like to start pre treating everything but need to see what;s safe especially for seeds.
 
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I was wondering about that.

I've had problems with the knats since I started with coco never totally getting rid of them i think. I been recycling it quite a few times also. They couldve laid eggs in it. Maybe the roots too who knows.

What is BTI ?Id like to start pre treating everything but need to see what;s safe especially for seeds.

bti = bacillus thuringiensis var. israelensis. it's a bacterium that kills fungus gnat larvae. it does this by being ingested by the maggots. once inside the digestive tract of the maggots, bti secretes a toxin which stops the larvae from feeding anymore and then leads to their deaths. doing a soak of ya media in a solution with bti will sort out ya problems. usually takes a few treatments to break the cycle, as any unhatched eggs remain unaffected.

media which are too wet or too heavily fertilised are especially attractive to fungus gnats. peat containing media also seem to attract them and coco is pretty bad for it too.

good luck bro!

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bti = bacillus thuringiensis var. israelensis. it's a bacterium that kills fungus gnat larvae. it does this by being ingested by the maggots. once inside the digestive tract of the maggots, bti secretes a toxin which stops the larvae from feeding anymore and then leads to their deaths. doing a soak of ya media in a solution with bti will sort out ya problems. usually takes a few treatments to break the cycle, as any unhatched eggs remain unaffected.

media which are too wet or too heavily fertilised are especially attractive to fungus gnats. peat containing media also seem to attract them and coco is pretty bad for it too.

good luck bro!

neverbreak
Thanks bro! Im gonna check it out.
 
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When they eating my seeds; If indoors I usually have pot worms. Look them up.

Since they are not harmless (as they eating our prized seeds), I would recommend flushing the soil with some amazingly HOT water. They are soft bodied and it should kill them. Ive never tried this though but its how I would go now. I usually just let em ride since I see them later not sooner in the plants life....(im also just thinking cuz u wont harm shit if u do this before u plant those seeds)

The for sure way is to get new soil. Which is how I go when Ive dealt in the past.
 
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Try not keeping things as saturated. Only happened to me when i over saturated seeds. Same with your gnats, they only really pop up in coco when over watered.
 
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Agreed, saturated coco attracts them. They are such a pain in the ass!
 
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So I k ow this is an old thread, but I have some pix of this for you guys to ponder over. Happened to notice my Mr.Nice didn't pop above ground with the rest of my seedlings. I dug up the seed, and it broke open very easily. Thanks inside I found a mass of writhing worms and what looked like spider mites or some kind of mite. I noticed noone had any answers here about it, other than fungus gnats prevention.. but this is on a different level than fungus that protection, I'm convinced it's something about the seeds. I had 4 seedlings germinated and put in soil all the same way, and only the me.nice had this problem.. anyone actually know what they are? They were actually inside the seed, not in the soil/media...
 
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