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[Wisher619]

@John Coward

maybe you didn't read my post clearly....

soil samples for outdoor farming in ground

if you are taking soil samples for indoor gardening...then why are you indoor gardening...that is where you have premixed potting mix right out of the bag that will sustain your plant perfectly...tailored exactly to our plant specifications

taking soil samples indoors make zero sense "MANG"

a waste of time and money

if you want to know what is in your soil indoors...use an inert media and put into it exactly what you want........it is called hydroponics
if you want to go the organic route
Aquaponics

and if RO water and tweaking ph gain a 30% increase I would really like to see that imperial data that backs that claim....sounds like you are really on to something

 

[EventHorizan]

@John Coward

maybe you didn't read my post clearly....

soil samples for outdoor farming in ground

if you are taking soil samples for indoor gardening...then why are you indoor gardening...that is where you have premixed potting mix right out of the bag that will sustain your plant perfectly...tailored exactly to our plant specifications

taking soil samples indoors make zero sense "MANG"

a waste of time and money

if you want to know what is in your soil indoors...use an inert media and put into it exactly what you want........it is called hydroponics
if you want to go the organic route
Aquaponics

and if RO water and tweaking ph gain a 30% increase I would really like to see that imperial data that backs that claim....sounds like you are really on to something

I have my pen and paper and am ready to take notes too....
He doesn't really give much detail on what he means by tweaking... if he means moving from 8 to 6.7 then he probably did see 30 % increase :)

 

[John Coward]

I have my pen and paper and am ready to take notes too....
He doesn't really give much detail on what he means by tweaking... if he means moving from 8 to 6.7 then he probably did see 30 % increase :)

Sorry I did not read it clearly. But i keep my ph during early-mid veg exactly 6.4 then when I am two weeks out of flower I start raising the medium in .1 increments until I achieve 6.7 with my soil slury. I'm all about trying to use as little nutrients as possible and saving time and money. And I'm not saying that it's going to increase your yeild by 30% but ive come to find out I'm not baby sitting the grow as much as I used to. My family owns the largest Christmas tree farm in MA plus grow spring/fall flowers. Plus I grow 10 acres of tobacco myself while managing my fathers 20 he grows. I was not trying to be rude. I have a batch of 12 going rn mango skunk is the strain. They will veg until march move to my light deprivation green house. I'm hoping to pull 10+ a plant with my over all investment in every plant not extending 3k

 

[John Coward]

Maybe you should reread the post again. And then when your done you can read the thread, How to be respectful when posting on blogs that you didn't start. Then when your done with that compile all your information into your own thread and see if somebody will argue with you there. Thank you kindly sir and have a good day...[/QUOTE
I check ph in tobacco/flowers/pumpkins/corn why would I not check it in my herb?! Everything grows differently and in different environments that's why when you buy perennials you can make sure it's suitable to grow in the zone you are trying to grow it in. Yes indoor is a controlled environment but Off of a 4x4x8 room I'll pull 4lbs.

 

[Wisher619]

and that is respectable?

again....when growing row crops....of course you want to sample soil to see what you need for success

indoors......if you want to get real
have leaf samples done once a week

indoor growing is not that complicated...

I have been growing since the early 90's and growing veggies since the mid 80's
never had to sample soil and never ph'd water in an outdoor in ground type enviroment

and if you study and learn about plants and how they take in nutrients as well as how the microbial life enteracts with the rhizosphere and how the plant and rhizospere has its own ph value

you would also know if you were a "good farmer"
that the reason you ph water is for the value of chelated salt solution that are basically steroids for your plant
so keeping a proper ph allows all of those ions to penetrate the rhizospere and into the plant

you see with organics ....microbes break down the minerals into a usable form by way of enzymes that they secret after feeding on sugar that the plant supplies

feeding organics ro water essentially is stripping minerals from the medium as RO is negative and grabs positive
one of the reasons ro is used to flush in hydroponics
without phing as the ph of the water dosnt matter what matters is the ph of mineral solution

and by the way.....if you are feeding with bottles.....you are not organic in any way

I dont know if you are organic or not

but I have never seen anyone ever ph water for row crops.....ever
shit gets pumped out of the ground and directly on to crops
with high metals and all kinds of shit

I literally live in one of the largest agricultural areas in the world
we supply over 75% of the worlds aggie crops
Central California

but.....if you are growing in peat based medium indoors and your are feeding from a bottle then yes ph 6.2-6.7
but please if you have something actually scientific to say with backing evidence from peer reviewed blind studies then by all means....

just saying "MANG"

 

[John Coward]

And very true nectar #4 comes at good ph but as your plant starts breaking whatever it wants out of the soil it can fluctuate ph balance. Your plant will literally shit out things it doesn't need back into the soil to brake back down in another area it's stressing. But once the nutrients and organic plant matter breaks down so many times it will start to fuck with the soil ph throwing off your ppms. I use every thing nectar for the god sells plus slf100. Last 4 weeks of budding are straight flush. Other than monitoring ph level.

and that is respectable?

again....when growing row crops....of course you want to sample soil to see what you need for success

indoors......if you want to get real
have leaf samples done once a week

indoor growing is not that complicated...

I have been growing since the early 90's and growing veggies since the mid 80's
never had to sample soil and never ph'd water in an outdoor in ground type enviroment

and if you study and learn about plants and how they take in nutrients as well as how the microbial life enteracts with the rhizosphere and how the plant and rhizospere has its own ph value

you would also know if you were a "good farmer"
that the reason you ph water is for the value of chelated salt solution that are basically steroids for your plant
so keeping a proper ph allows all of those ions to penetrate the rhizospere and into the plant

you see with organics ....microbes break down the minerals into a usable form by way of enzymes that they secret after feeding on sugar that the plant supplies

feeding organics ro water essentially is stripping minerals from the medium as RO is negative and grabs positive
one of the reasons ro is used to flush in hydroponics
without phing as the ph of the water dosnt matter what matters is the ph of mineral solution

and by the way.....if you are feeding with bottles.....you are not organic in any way

I dont know if you are organic or not

but I have never seen anyone ever ph water for row crops.....ever
shit gets pumped out of the ground and directly on to crops
with high metals and all kinds of shit

I literally live in one of the largest agricultural areas in the world
we supply over 75% of the worlds aggie crops
Central California

but.....if you are growing in peat based medium indoors and your are feeding from a bottle then yes ph 6.2-6.7
but please if you have something actually scientific to say with backing evidence from peer reviewed blind studies then by all means....

just saying "MANG"

You win man I'm not trying to push buttons obv y'all are og growers I respect tf out of that. I've always been taught keeping scheduals and info always helps increase profit margins.

 

[Wisher619]

And very true nectar #4 comes at good ph but as your plant starts breaking whatever it wants out of the soil it can fluctuate ph balance. Your plant will literally shit out things it doesn't need back into the soil to brake back down in another area it's stressing. But once the nutrients and organic plant matter breaks down so many times it will start to fuck with the soil ph throwing off your ppms. I use every thing nectar for the god sells plus slf100. Last 4 weeks of budding are straight flush. Other than monitoring ph level.

You win man I'm not trying to push buttons obv y'all are og growers I respect tf out of that. I've always been taught keeping scheduals and info always helps increase profit margins.

you are right
it is very good to keep schedule
I even have pdf lists and all that

as you grow with nectar
then yes you would want to ph
as it is a bottled product

before I started planting in ground (for all crops...maters/cukes etc....)
I actually get a soil test through my city

I do this every March I plant in May and my food crops are done all around late dec when we get our first cold spells
below 30's with 90% humidity
so shit just dies instantly

but.....I would never ph my water or even waste that much water making RO for my food crops

cannabis I dont even mess with outdoors

I just water for veg and the first 2 weeks of flower and then nothing
my outdoor is strictly hash
but my deal is indoor hydro for my flowers
works the best for me

 

[Wisher619]

indoor flowers

 

[incogneato]

oh...didnt see it ...I only saw 2 quotes from him but nothing else...he quoted you and I on the same post but that was it...didnt see anything he wrote...maybe he deleted it or something...


so I guess I was missing something than...hahahaha

I see the same thing as you did. I was lost too lol

 

[Wisher619]

Sorry I did not read it clearly. But i keep my ph during early-mid veg exactly 6.4 then when I am two weeks out of flower I start raising the medium in .1 increments until I achieve 6.7 with my soil slury. I'm all about trying to use as little nutrients as possible and saving time and money. And I'm not saying that it's going to increase your yeild by 30% but ive come to find out I'm not baby sitting the grow as much as I used to. My family owns the largest Christmas tree farm in MA plus grow spring/fall flowers. Plus I grow 10 acres of tobacco myself while managing my fathers 20 he grows. I was not trying to be rude. I have a batch of 12 going rn mango skunk is the strain. They will veg until march move to my light deprivation green house. I'm hoping to pull 10+ a plant with my over all investment in every plant not extending 3k

do you use RO water and ph everything for your to tobacco crops?

that dosnt seem very sustainable to me
is your cannabis in ground or in something like fabric pots?

10 per plant
you will be going through $1000.00's on nutrients for those plants
again dosnt seem very sustainable
you must be growing trees
do you use that ph strategy on your tobacco ?
do you use Nectar on your to tobacco as well?

I pulled that much from mine in ground each plant getting its own 4'x8' bed

the plants were 8' tall and about 6' wide
no nutrients
spiked the bed with earth worm castings
planted....watered and then let m go

 

[EventHorizan]

I see the same thing as you did. I was lost too lol

Ya somehow it slipped by us. I just happen to go back and make sure i didnt forget to give someone a like, and came across it. But dude seems to have responded with a acceptable attitude and that is good enough for me.
My problem is ,, some of the people here have invested their only lil bit of money, and its imperative that they are even mildly successful the first grow, and info or worse, bad info can ruin it all for them. So i like to make sure if your on my thread, we are talking facts, and not opinions, unless otherwise stated... The group of guys that i talk to here or genuine people that take their grow serious and the info we are associated with...
So the way i feel, if someone wants to come here and say we are wrong, then enlighten us, but bring documentations and provide a factual basis, or my boys here at thcfarmer.com will eat you up and call you out for repeating nonsense.
Glad the dude was able to respond respectively.. Might be a home for him here after all... That shows character... And I admire that!

 

[EventHorizan]

And very true nectar #4 comes at good ph but as your plant starts breaking whatever it wants out of the soil it can fluctuate ph balance. Your plant will literally shit out things it doesn't need back into the soil to brake back down in another area it's stressing. But once the nutrients and organic plant matter breaks down so many times it will start to fuck with the soil ph throwing off your ppms. I use every thing nectar for the god sells plus slf100. Last 4 weeks of budding are straight flush. Other than monitoring ph level.

You win man I'm not trying to push buttons obv y'all are og growers I respect tf out of that. I've always been taught keeping scheduals and info always helps increase profit margins.

So tell us a lil about yourself. How long you been growing? Hydro too? setup..

 

[EventHorizan]

Well call it what you want but my second germ attempt has everything almost up in 24 hrs... Who knows what happened last time... Aliens like I said...

 

[Wisher619]

Well call it what you want but my second germ attempt has everything almost up in 24 hrs... Who knows what happened last time... Aliens like I said...

refrigerator....48hours of dark

 

[incogneato]

Well call it what you want but my second germ attempt has everything almost up in 24 hrs... Who knows what happened last time... Aliens like I said...

Damn aliens got me too bruh....its rumored the sneak in at night and kill off seedlings that grow shit plants so you don't waste time growing them lol

 

[incogneato]

BTW Merry Christmas to you and your crew @EventHorizan @Wisher619

 

[Wisher619]

BTW Merry Christmas to you and your crew @EventHorizan @Wisher619

Merry Christmas to all as well

hope your guys's holidays are awesome
spent with loved ones!!

 

[EventHorizan]

Damn aliens got me too bruh....its rumored the sneak in at night and kill off seedlings that grow shit plants so you don't waste time growing them lol

That is a damn good way to look at it! +1 :)

BTW Merry Christmas to you and your crew @EventHorizan @Wisher619

Merry Christmas to all as well

hope your guys's holidays are awesome
spent with loved ones!!

Merry Christmas to all of you and hope it's a warm relaxing night...
My daughter came in yesterday and surprised me with a visit.. And you all know just how SURPRISED I was :(
But at least everything was down and only a empty tent was there...

 

[EventHorizan]

Couple things to note. 10 drops of root builder per solo cup of ro to soak rapid rooters may be too much for Autos.

Also raising humidity def helped with germ but high rh brings mold. I see a Lil green on my older rapid rooter seedlings. These our gonna be mother so I'm transplanting to solo cups today. What should I do about the green first?
@Wisher619 brother hope you are having a great morning... Getting ready to hang out with kids for the day.

You know I hate hand watering. I'm gonna have to decide how I want to set up a watering system for the 4 mothers.
Probably a 2x2 flood table that will fit inside my 33x33" small seedling tent.
All I know is that I have arrived at the place where you start trying to minimize how much you use of everything, water, nutes, light, space, etc.... since it begins to add up.

 

[incogneato]

Couple things to note. 10 drops of root builder per solo cup of ro to soak rapid rooters may be too much for Autos.

Also raising humidity def helped with germ but high rh brings mold. I see a Lil green on my older rapid rooter seedlings. These our gonna be mother so I'm transplanting to solo cups today. What should I do about the green first?
@Wisher619 brother hope you are having a great morning... Getting ready to hang out with kids for the day.

You know I hate hand watering. I'm gonna have to decide how I want to set up a watering system for the 4 mothers.
Probably a 2x2 flood table that will fit inside my 33x33" small seedling tent.
All I know is that I have arrived at the place where you start trying to minimize how much you use of everything, water, nutes, light, space, etc.... since it begins to add up.

I had the same issue with older rapid rooters. I think it contributed to damping off in a few seedlings. I soak em in h2o2 before I soak em in bio root/ water. You can mix h2o2 3:1 with water and spray the ones that already have the green just know it will sterilize the medium (kinda the point)