Seed 2 Seed, 35 Day Wonder Plant In Hand Held Hydroponics

[epitome]

Damn son, chill. Wtf crawled up your ass?
Edit: not hating its a legitimate question fool.

Since when does one have to sell their soul to make money?

 

[lino]

Well I wanted post pics in celebration but the real truth is I wished I was donald trump rich, my obama stock tanked a cpl times, in i'm between jobs and behind on bills, student loans and owe taxes so the money is gone, I might update some lites and get nutes and supplies but the money is gone after I pay bills and buy a cpl small toys.

I posted Hermy DNA and my slabs sucked w/o my relative's help! But a relative who is not talking at the moment has PHD in this stuff and helped me, and WITH HELP OF HER LAB from college made some successful cannabis DNA gel slabs were made, These guys are going to read this also so I need to be polite as I'll help them in the future, Dog Food. yup pet food.
I never thought about this, but in there country they can use cannabis easily in pet products w/o their gov approvals. And I told / showed em what relative showed me about the slabs and what were in the DNA slabs. I explained and showed their guy how and that I could and will do find dom and rec genes again if I have my seed bank and I can and will replicate this work w/o the slabs. I can find heterozygous DOM or Rec and the same goes for homozygous hermies, So at that point it was my entire seed bank 4 sale or no deal, they knew and I knew that was the only was to stop me from replicating their work but they're not worried about owning anything cuz I have ID'd DOM Homozygous hermies so I know what they were doing and needed, so I did the Art of the Deal and told that what I was doing and we all laughed. They didnt want my entire seed bank for millions so lets just say some What I thought long ago was that I had the RAREST cannabis ever! The seed was just a very rare mule of cannabaseas x cannabis mule and the guy who read these thread from overseas knew what I had and I knew it too, cuz of clue words i was releasing here. But I was doing some global warming tricks trying to tell scientist community that my seeds were of a new sub strain, not ruddy, indica nor sativa it was a new one! but A geneticist saw a very rare plant in background of one of my experiment pics here and knew what I had done. cannabaseas x cannabis

Mama Bear, Legal, well lets just say some seed stock in the form of plasma , well it is still frozen in nitrogen in a far away land.
If I have 20 different cannabis plant strains grafted to one root sytem, Do I have one plant? Yes by law you do. This is named the 20 into 1 LinoLaw!
Mama, Is cannabaseas x cannabis legal? My attorney is funded and ready...

 

[lino]

Congratulations! As long it's all legal, I'd be dancing all the way to the bank. Hope you're gonna put some of it back out there. Whenever I get a windfall, I spread it around. I've even walked up to homeless guys on the street and handed them $100 bills - and walked away without saying a word. Everyone should do "a good deed for the day" - pay it forward kinda thing.
Any chance you're gonna tell us what they paid you for?

Not me. I stop in front of the drive thru at Sonic and I'll hold up the line digging pennies and nickles stuck in the gum on the ground. When a guy comes at me for a hand out I ALWAYS ASK/beg him for a quarter before he can utter a word. I'm going to Wells Fargo to cash the checks with the supervisor on duty dressed like a hobo, I aint combing my hair, holes in my sweat pants, bud trim stuck to me, checker shirt sleeve tore demanding my money and when they tell me they aint got enough cash on hand I'm gonna say real loud why cant I have my money? are the customers in line more important than me, I look at the staff, many of to young to know who the beverly hill billies are and I'll tell the tellers after I get what cash is avaliable, you guys just met Jed Clampett and I'll leave... they laugh next time I come in dressed up for the rest of my money.

 

[MamaBear]

The puzzle pieces are starting to fall into place!

cannabaseas x cannabis

Seems to me that would be a whole new species (hybrid) and probably don't exactly fall under any law (yet).
What did you cross it with? Sorry, just curious. If you prefer not to say, that's cool.
You got a name for this new plant?

 

[epitome]

Money plant

 

[lino]

The puzzle pieces are starting to fall into place!


Seems to me that would be a whole new species (hybrid) and probably don't exactly fall under any law (yet).
What did you cross it with? Sorry, just curious. If you prefer not to say, that's cool.
You got a name for this new plant?

NOT a new species, no it is a mutant. Its offspring are mules, inert not fertile plants.
SUPER QUESTION !
EVERYONE, crap,
Sorry, I was MIS-spelling the species incorrect PLZ forgive me!
cannabinus x cannabis - see below
Nullizygous - you have to understand it to breed it!
I got PURE, the very rare to find, all the online seeds of this species have worms and you're not suppose to be importing these seeds as I learned the hard way! they got a worm like we USA cannabis growers have never seen and are 100 times more deadly and tougher than Russet Mites.
But guess what, Ive bred it into the PERFECT house plant with a gorgous 7" perfect flower! Clones will be ready in 3 mths, its legal. make a bush out of it if you dont have vaulted ceiling .. if not croped it can grow 20ft, dont doubt me

Well a name has not stuck yet, so to name it for now and stick to a scientific nomenclature the name might be as follows
cannabinus.L x Cannabis Sativa.L CV LinoLicous, do not smoke either of these species , well a cultivar of LinoLicious is a delicousy in a bong the other species do have phsyco active ingrediants and will most likely get you sick if you dont know what you;re doing, let put it the way, This is what Mongolians consumed before battle where death was going to happen, not a good hi. We call it Mongolian Massacre and can be dangerous.
I search indain tribes in seattle, florida and been all over looking for TRUE original Indian Brown Hemp, I refined it into a awesome house plant, on sale in mths to come, clones and maybe seeds, my mule seeds cant be bred unless you take my embryo class or go to college for awhile but they make an awsome indoor plant also... No smoke value at all, Its not cannabis and should not be consumed look at above paragraph!
LOTS OF PPL GET SICK CONSUMING THIS cuz it look almost identical to cannabis to untrained eye!

A nullizygous organism carries two mutant alleles for the same gene. The mutant alleles are both complete loss-of-function or 'null' alleles, so homozygous null and nullizygous are synonymous
so if there are any breeder out there reading;
Dont confuse nullizygote with allozygousity !
allozygous - because different alleles may have arisen by mutation some time after a common origin. Hemizygous and nullizygous genotypes do not contain enough alleles to allow for comparison of sources, so this classification is irrelevant for them
ill stop, to much info, im going in to deep sorry guys.

 

[lino]

Money plant

Yup she's my #1 whore now, I'll be pimpN this bitch hard now! Unlike cannabis she's a legal prostitute!

 

[MamaBear]

I'll be pimpN this bitch hard now!

I would too! All that time and work is finally gonna pay off. You deserve it!!

OK, got it. Mutants can't compare since they are not in the same class anymore.

Thanks for the correction. Here I'm thinking you somehow crossed hops with pot. Think of the beer that would make!

So it's hibiscus. Lovely plants with lots of medicinal uses on it's own. Definitely won't ever see me smoking it!

Just so I got everything right . . . you crossed hibiscus with marijuana and got mutant hybrid seeds. These "mule" seeds make great houseplants and you can't smoke them. Can we assume you did all this for the sake of the hibiscus? Doesn't sound like it does much for cannabis. Hope they can't pollinate our cannabis plants. I'm assuming they won't since you said they are "mules" - pollen is not viable?

Is propagating cannabinus hibiscus so difficult? Just wondering WHY?

I'd call it Cannabiscus!
And I'd love to grow one on my front porch - right next to the front door! I'll keep a lookout for them.

 

[lino]

I'd call it Cannabiscus!
And I'd love to grow one on my front porch - right next to the front door! I'll keep a lookout for them.

You'll get a coupon soon,,, I assume you're a chick, Ive never met a hippy chick that doesnt like a perfect 7" flower in bloom and the plant looks like cannabis. You have to bring her inside in the winter where it bust a big wht/beige flowers , I wont get into consumption of this plant, I'll let the scientist break it down, it physically dangerous if not properly prepared, Keep the seed pods away from pets and wear gloves when handling them, Use a Fine Brillo pad on your hands after handling seed pods-DO NOT TOUCH YOUR EYEs until you've brilllo pad washed your hands.

With that said I'd say real Indian Brown Hemp is safer than a Poinseta or cactus plant in your house or yard and many other house plants for that matter. Every dig a naked diaper baby out of cactus,,, .... the plant can be manicured so no leaves or pods are reachable by kids and pets

This plant is 17ft, This plant is a horrible example. All the branches were taken for clones and She real sick in the pic, she just gave birth, all the fan leaves are removed. The pods are stripped. She still trying to make more babies in an 20 hr lite cycle, ouch. this plant was supposed to flower in the amazon, not a colo back yard, , Shes had a hard life the last 3 years. And I can not find a mate of the same race,,,, all kinds of other races / strains of Hibiscus <<<<. THats why I dont mention Hibiscus here nor do I mention to scientist/botanist either , WHY,,, confusion,,, Cannabinus.L is very very very rare . I will already have to clarify that it is not cannabis, But wait Cannaabinus is actually Hemp and Cannabis in NOT Hemp,, ya see it get confusing. Then I have to explain that it is a very different Rare hibiscus. And it has no resemblance to Hibiscus except for the sex organs and seed. This is Hemp not Cannabis Hemp,,, the naming of cannabis to Hemp is wrong,

This is not what it looks like in nature or outside with cannabis, It has a dam close resemblance and has stopped many growers to take a second look. This is the REAL HEMP !,,,, You guys have probably never seen hemp,,,, cannabis is not hemp, they got IT wrong homies . I'll hit this subject later... I'll explain what happen in the nomenclature convention of cultivar CV of hemp and where the scientist screwed it up,,, Dont doubt me !

Poor girl, all her branches were removed for clones.

 

[lino]

Oh BTW,,, I know a grower who was found not guilty cuz some how this fucking guy's crop , well the dam evidence was tainted with hibiscus, lol, now how do you wgt it when its all mixed up?

 

[MamaBear]

I was only using the name hibiscus because looking at cannabinus and cannabis together can also be confusing to read.
So, if someone managed to get just a little bit of cannabinus bred into their cannabis, the law no longer applies to their plants?
Got it now, you're trying to save a very rare and ancient plant. Good for you!!
And I have dug plenty of cactus spines out of grown-up babies butts!

 

[Psychonaut47]

Fuck ya I like where this thread is headed, @lino don't forget about us little guys ay!!!

 

[mojavegreen]

Interesting thread!

 

[lino]

I was only using the name hibiscus because looking at cannabinus and cannabis together can also be confusing to read.
So, if someone managed to get just a little bit of cannabinus bred into their cannabis, the law no longer applies to their plants?
Got it now, you're trying to save a very rare and ancient plant. Good for you!!
And I have dug plenty of cactus spines out of grown-up babies butts!

Only a wierdo like me is trying to cross species in plants and ppl dont understand why I'm into watching crossing of plant and animals an getting freaks sometimes and they hate me/us... cuz I witness freaky creations , I was fortunate enough to watch and get some participation,, I saw the creation study return of the True Yellow Bison -
B.b bison, American Plain Bison
This animal was Extinct, gone. Its return was from bone marrow. Jurrasic Park shit. Its was morbid and horrifying watching this process.
So why bring this up.... SAME THING has happened in Cannabis, Hibiscus and Yes even Buffalo's came from a Yak

Follow me, Even Lino's 35 Day Wonder Plant is cross of Mustard and Broccoli Wierd Family and these species intrigue the fuck out of me also, it weird as it demonstrates that Hop and Cannabis being descendants in the same family is not that unusual. There animals and plants that you would never guess are from the same family.
BUT this is not an examples stuff Like DNA crossing,,, Like ex: how the hell do we have Pig, Monkey, DNA and kinds of strange anomalies in DNA in our's and other organisms as well?

So in summary:
Cannabis, Hibiscus, plants and animal like the buffalo example, im laying it down here ,,, All this happened WITHOUT A LAB folks,

gyptions, greeks, romans, and on and had labs and these guys were making freaks long before we were born,,, So I question everything... As A kid I was told that I evolved from Neanderthal , LOL, I knew they's a LieN to me, turns out I was wrong to I thought we ate em..... Nope It the Red Hair Rec gene, good ol DNA Turns out 10 - 40,000 yrs ago and it bet its a littlonger than that but not long ago we made love to those Caveman, so all my Buffalo facts are applied to HUMANs also, SO lets get started

The bovine family (Bovidae) diverged from the common ancestral line with water buffalo and African buffalo about 5 to 10 million years ago. Thereafter, the family lineage of bison and taurine cattle does not appear to be a straightforward "tree" structure as is often depicted in much evolution, because evidence of interbreeding and crossbreeding is seen between different species and members within this family, even many millions of years after their ancestors separated into different species. This crossbreeding was not sufficient to conflate the different species back together, but it has resulted in unexpected relationships between many members of this group, such as yak being related to American bison, when such relationships would otherwise not be apparent.

Huh, how familiar, same thing has happened in Cannabis, Hibiscus, cattle, and Humans, poss Pets, ya get whats going on here: Follow me homies:

A 2003 study of mitochondrial DNA indicated four distinct maternal lineages in tribe Bovini. However, Y chromosome analysis associated wisent and American bison. An earlier study using amplified fragment length polymorphism fingerprinting showed a close association of wisent with American bison, and probably with the yak, but noted that the interbreeding of Bovini species made determining relationships problematic,

there a American Mtn species also.
B.b bison Athesecesea, European species.

Enough science shit, those guys THOUGHT they new what the little Yell Bison was going to be like and look like. We had no idea, the personality was not at all what expected either, everyone based there thought on cowboy books and cows and buffalo, ...
The baby Bison was playful has hell, more than a baby goat, BUT He got Bigger than expected and mean as he got older.

 

[lino]

@MamaBear When you see how rare a Yellow Bison used to be. Zero, as an example here , When say; Cannabinus.L is JUST a Hibiscus plant,
Its like telling to the creator of the 2 Generation 'Yellow Bison' B.b bison
So you have a cow, big deal!

OUCH ! :cry:

 

[MamaBear]

OUCH !

Sorry Lino, didn't mean it that way at all. I actually said:

you're trying to save a very rare and ancient plant. Good for you!!

I meant it in a positive way. Variety is necessary for life and saving near-extinct species is a good thing.
But just like in Jurassic Park, once you've crossed it with something else, it isn't really that species anymore. You've created a new hybrid.
I see where you are coming from - this is the best way to save those genetics! And it's very cool that you have accomplished it without using a lab!!!

 

[lino]

the point of "seed 2 seed" thread was to show a plant that is excellent way to learn plant breeding because of the speed of the plant.
The bigger cannabis plant is the same age as the very old 'Wonder Plants' in the pic. that plant is at 41 days. The seeds in the dish were harvested at day 36. On day 36 the cannabis plant was approx the size of the small cannabis plant, little bigger. I could have had F2 Wonder Plants growing if I had germ them already. The plants and breeding are fast.

I think farmers are getting bored with breeding charts and crosses so I'll move on to the 201 level instead of the 101 level stuff that I was going to present. I'll post some common lecture notes found online on hermy, 3 way gene manipulation like the hermy gay gene and the hairless Chinese Crested gene - knock out gene manipulation from self fertilizaation-pollination and other reasons will be bred in my next threads using dogs and Wonder Plant seed pods.

Kwel mutants pics coming soon,,, :D

 

[lino]

I'll try and make this more interesting than just mutant pea's. Follow this to the bottom to see the tie in to cannabis.

We'll characterize recessive embryo-defective (emb) mutants of Mustard, Broccoli, Cannabis, Chinese Crested dogs , . This information may be of interest if you: (1) want to learn more about seed/embryo development in these species; (2) have found a knockout in your gene of interest through reverse genetics but suspect it may be lethal because you have not identified a homozygote; (3) want to characterize in more detail an existing embryo-defective mutant being studied in your garden or laboratory; or (4) want to adopt the protocols we use to generate information presented.

Some of my note dumps are found on the Internet so as to disclaimer on plagiarism some of this is my writing but lots will be copy & paste of common notes used on this subject for instruction for advanced Jr H - college level studies.

Well look at the correlation of different seed pods and embryo's in them and even the correlation to animal embryo's but the main focus will be seed pods known as siliques. But the science applies to many other species also as I'll outline here. Before fertilization, the silique is called the ovary and the seeds are called ovules. Each silique contains two carpels, a central replum, and two long rows of seeds that are attached to the replum through a funiculus. The funiculus guides the pollen tube during fertilization and provides a pipeline for nutrients from the maternal plant. A typical silique produced under optimal conditions contains 40-60 seeds. In cannabis and as with most embryos, they have some sort of umbilical cord. This will be manipulated for breeding later in this lesson.

The number of viable seeds at maturity is determined by the number of ovules produced, the percentage of ovules fertilized, and the frequency of seed abortion. Vigorous plants often produce flowers with about 60 ovules. Most siliques contain at least a few unfertilized ovules resulting primarily from incomplete transfer of pollen to the stigma surface.

Plant and animals embryo's frequency of spontaneous seed abortion is influenced by growth conditions but is often less than 1% of fertilized ovules. Distinguishing between unfertilized ovules, mutant seeds, and spontaneously aborted seeds is an important feature of working with embryo-defective mutants.

These procedures to find embryo-defective mutants will work on many types of seed embryos. The technique in animals is similar.

Stay tuned if this stuff interest you. I'm dumping slow so anyone going in deep can have time to google research..

Identifying Heterozygotes: The most common misconception about embryo-lethal mutants is that they cannot be studied or maintained. This is simply incorrect. Recessive mutants are readily maintained as heterozygotes that appear normal but produce 25% defective seeds following self-pollination @epitome - I think this is what you were referring to in seed banks when we were talking about controlled hermy breeding in cannabis plants. And guys with breeding cannabis and Chinese Crested I forgot to mention the dead baby syndrome's associated with different Types of hermys and Crested genes. Not Until recently , I developed a way to count dead babies in cannabis to help determine hermy zygosity in cannabis for breeding puposes.

NEXT POST is FREAKY HAIRLESS breeding,,,, :speechless:

 

[lino]

Comrades, today well scratch the surface of manipulating a 3 way gene like hairless dog and gay genes , and we'll find mutant pea and cannabis embryo for breeding purposes.

HOW?
We'll start by finding heterozosity in mutant embryos. Note, if one of these babies is a hermy we got our heterozygote hermaphrodite.

Microscope is needed but can be done at home with 20x scopes- But Dont worry, Ive dont the work and I will provide slides mutant embryos. Cannabis seed dissection slides are not posted but some info is vaguely explained.
At the end of this lesson note dump I will provide seed charts for cannabis and pea in a PDF file for you to download if you go this deep in your breeding projects.

Finding the Knock Out Genes - Lets Dissect some VERY SMALL Mustard Seed and after that lesson you feel like a Cannabis seed is a giant monster seed. I show student how to build a seed lathe (not provided but so ya know what going on in the background for your comprehension of this lesson ).

OBJECTIVE:
Build breeding charts from our seed banks before we germinate and give you the ability to manipulate mutants for improved breeding results.

A hairless Crested x hairless fat shitzoo
gets curl from the shitz and mohawk from the Creasted and looks like a shitz attidude , too kewl... that pup knows he's a hipster... @MandyJane this is what could happen if Bobby got Bonnie,,, :opps: ,,,

 

[MamaBear]

I think I finally understand. Use mutants for breeding. Instead of breeding 2 "normal" parents to get (hopefully) a desired result - we can use the mutants to eliminate negative traits thus giving us the desired result. It seems a backwards way of doing it at first but I can definitely see how it works. Our first instinct is to dump mutants. But there are some things we can never truly lock down using "normal" plants.