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Rdwc And Coco Coir Adventures #nobubbles

althought my track record of seeds starting in Coco in colored 16oz cups is appalling.
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Ok some pics as promised.

Tent, cleaned reorganized.

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Coco girl not looking good but smells amazing. She has already drank 75% of what I put in there since I took this picture. Must be underfed? Or overwatered?

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So to give some more info haven't watered the coco girl in probably a couple days. She was pretty dry when I repotted.

I think the two sour girls in the back I've been over watering. They're the two diagonal back right.

The two big ones in the back seem to always be hungry. They always bone dry after one day.

The Blood Rose and gorilla glue the two small ones that are yellow and purple were really dry I think I may have neglected watering them. The bag seed that is also bright yellow in the middle also seems to be constantly hungry. Light as a feather today.

I have too much going on and not taking enough notes. But it seems either it's under watering or over watering. Or both.

I just watered all but the back two sour girls. Hardly any run off. The sour girls felt heavy and look limp. My other ones look limp or yellow but feel wicked wicked light.
brother I mentioned that to you not to long back that you were gonna have to pick your posi\ison that you would get to many things going and you just dont give everything the same love... U need situation where you dont got to give a lot of love to everything so that way you can focus on what need special attention which is flower $$$$$$$$$$$
All the rest should be what is easist!
Dwc cloner
Flood table for veg/mothers(use hydroton)
Rdwc for flower/ with mandatory chiller...
Easy and almost idiot proof... Runs for a couple weeks on its own, esp when you have both set up with a 55 gal top off reservoir of Ro .....
 
brother I mentioned that to you not to long back that you were gonna have to pick your posi\ison that you would get to many things going and you just dont give everything the same love... U need situation where you dont got to give a lot of love to everything so that way you can focus on what need special attention which is flower $$$$$$$$$$$
All the rest should be what is easist!
Dwc cloner
Flood table for veg/mothers(use hydroton)
Rdwc for flower/ with mandatory chiller...
Easy and almost idiot proof... Runs for a couple weeks on its own, esp when you have both set up with a 55 gal top off reservoir of Ro .....
You have been steadfast in your desire for me to simplify. I am slowly coming around. It's all fun and games until everything collapses. Hahah. I like (the idea of) Coco and I like RDWC. I am starting to see the light!!!
 
You have been steadfast in your desire for me to simplify. I am slowly coming around. It's all fun and games until everything collapses. Hahah. I like (the idea of) Coco and I like RDWC. I am starting to see the light!!!
hahaha you just like to play and have fun and bro,, nothing wrong with that,
EXCEPT.........
We need to get you a harvest asap, just for your pride and well being! Plus i know you been laid off, and i know it wouldnt hurt, running into some Aliens.... But I see a lot of you guys have 105 diffent strains running and you talking about germing some more... I knew right off the bat 2 things... I wasnt gonna be hand watering shit! And my best chance for success was keeping it very simple so i went out and bought a rdwc! LMAO

Greatest decision i ever made tho.... I need to get a chiller and then im thinking, nothing will stop me after that! I dont think im gonna put the 2" pvc in even. I mean i dont have no water pumps or air stones, just one air pump, and 8 waterfalls so i dont get crazy flux, or retarded things happening.. My only downfall is it takes an hr or so for everything to circulate before i get a reading BUT, i dont even need to know anymore, i know just how much to add of nutes to raise Ec to with in a 100 ppm, and i can ph the whole system just by knowing how many points im off and how much it takes at such ppm... S now days i walk up to my monitor, get a reading, put what i think it needs, and walk off... I always come back in an hr and check but its always right where i expect it... If i was to buy again i would get the one with the slightly bigger buckets...

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sorry.....when the coco looks like a desert dry and dusty...it is def not overwatered...

not trying to be a dick

but when your plant is droopy and flimsy and ready to keel over

it wants a drink

im talking about the droopy plant thats sitting in 3 inches worth of water in the green saucer. def not dry and dusty
 
Go take a look at my coco root health tutorial in my signature. No such thing as overwatering but there is such a thing as lack of oxygen or else DWC wouldn't work. Feed often. The longer you wait to feed in coco(a few days) the longer she goes without fresh O2. Every plant I have has been fed at least once a day for their entire lives in 100% coco
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im talking about the droopy plant thats sitting in 3 inches worth of water in the green saucer. def not dry and dusty
Well he is just starting to understand what wisher wants him to do... he is still slightly confused on sips maybe. It isn't supposed to set in water. You dump the water in the bottom, but only what it can sip up in an hour or so... after that the remaining cave removed even tho I got good enough I give just the right amount. Buy even if he didn't it's coco and it can be fully saturated and still be fine so I'm not sure i totally agree.

He should top feed to set the coco, then bottom feed after that. Flush every so often and reset the coco, and repeat...
 
Go take a look at my coco root health tutorial in my signature. No such thing as overwatering but there is such a thing as lack of oxygen or else DWC wouldn't work. Feed often. The longer you wait to feed in coco(a few days) the longer she goes without fresh O2. Every plant I have has been fed at least once a day for their entire lives in 100% coco
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Excellent point on the 02! And how watering every day even multiple times replenish the 02 in the root zone..
 
so @mandalaman

can you supply the plant and then the medium that it is in

like each one..in the soil tent

that way we can help you along...specifically because something like super soil has a differ need than something like coco

for the coco I would be watering every day and for the super soil I would be watering when light in the pot but not dry to the point of drooping

all those streaks in the stems and whatnot on the coco plants is caused by over drying which causes an imbalance in the coco which creates ph issues and lockout of nutrients

I keep my coco moist at all times

@ 100% saturation coco still hold between 20-30% oxygen

anyone can argue this point if they would like

but science backs my argument

I went through this with @eventhorizon and ask him about coco now

and his coco plants have always done great up until he got SUPERLAZY with the res

I grow 4ft plants in 1/2 gal pots of pure coco
have never had a problem with them being overwatered

this go around with the experiment with new nutrients is the first time I have ever had a problem ever

called the nute company and was told some super stoopid shit
"I need to STRUCTURE my water before adding the nutrients"
well if that is the case then it can't be called a base nutrient if it needs additional help to work properly....

but coco being the medium used
I have never had a problem over watering
and i have kept the coco completely saturated from day 1...always

when I first used coco.....along time ago
I watered like promix or soil
boy did my plants show problems

has to do with cation exchange rates and all this science stuff

but once I started keeping the coco saturated and feeding every time
my plants perked up and stopped showing all kinds of deficiencies

as a matter of fact
talking to the nutrient company yesterday
he asked me..."are you keeping your coco moist at all times? You aren't letting it dry are you? If you are letting it dry that could be your problem."

JMO
 
Go take a look at my coco root health tutorial in my signature. No such thing as overwatering but there is such a thing as lack of oxygen or else DWC wouldn't work. Feed often. The longer you wait to feed in coco(a few days) the longer she goes without fresh O2. Every plant I have has been fed at least once a day for their entire lives in 100% coco
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Did you use azamax on them plants? They sure got a nice sheen to the leaves!
 
so @mandalaman

can you supply the plant and then the medium that it is in

like each one..in the soil tent

that way we can help you along...specifically because something like super soil has a differ need than something like coco

for the coco I would be watering every day and for the super soil I would be watering when light in the pot but not dry to the point of drooping

all those streaks in the stems and whatnot on the coco plants is caused by over drying which causes an imbalance in the coco which creates ph issues and lockout of nutrients

I keep my coco moist at all times

@ 100% saturation coco still hold between 20-30% oxygen

anyone can argue this point if they would like

but science backs my argument

I went through this with @eventhorizon and ask him about coco now

and his coco plants have always done great up until he got SUPERLAZY with the res

I grow 4ft plants in 1/2 gal pots of pure coco
have never had a problem with them being overwatered

this go around with the experiment with new nutrients is the first time I have ever had a problem ever

called the nute company and was told some super stoopid shit
"I need to STRUCTURE my water before adding the nutrients"
well if that is the case then it can't be called a base nutrient if it needs additional help to work properly....

but coco being the medium used
I have never had a problem over watering
and i have kept the coco completely saturated from day 1...always

when I first used coco.....along time ago
I watered like promix or soil
boy did my plants show problems

has to do with cation exchange rates and all this science stuff

but once I started keeping the coco saturated and feeding every time
my plants perked up and stopped showing all kinds of deficiencies

as a matter of fact
talking to the nutrient company yesterday
he asked me..."are you keeping your coco moist at all times? You aren't letting it dry are you? If you are letting it dry that could be your problem."

JMO
Well said on the naunces of soil vs coco. I completely agree every problem I've ever had in coco has been from letting it dry out.
 
Go take a look at my coco root health tutorial in my signature. No such thing as overwatering but there is such a thing as lack of oxygen or else DWC wouldn't work. Feed often. The longer you wait to feed in coco(a few days) the longer she goes without fresh O2. Every plant I have has been fed at least once a day for their entire lives in 100% coco
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exactly my point

this is what I have been doing for a long time now with extremely excellent results

I have posted spent roots that were just a square block

coco ....for me.....once you understand it...is the easiest way to grow plants period...when talking hydroponically
 
so @mandalaman

can you supply the plant and then the medium that it is in

like each one..in the soil tent

that way we can help you along...specifically because something like super soil has a differ need than something like coco

for the coco I would be watering every day and for the super soil I would be watering when light in the pot but not dry to the point of drooping

all those streaks in the stems and whatnot on the coco plants is caused by over drying which causes an imbalance in the coco which creates ph issues and lockout of nutrients

I keep my coco moist at all times

@ 100% saturation coco still hold between 20-30% oxygen

anyone can argue this point if they would like

but science backs my argument

I went through this with @eventhorizon and ask him about coco now

and his coco plants have always done great up until he got SUPERLAZY with the res

I grow 4ft plants in 1/2 gal pots of pure coco
have never had a problem with them being overwatered

this go around with the experiment with new nutrients is the first time I have ever had a problem ever

called the nute company and was told some super stoopid shit
"I need to STRUCTURE my water before adding the nutrients"
well if that is the case then it can't be called a base nutrient if it needs additional help to work properly....

but coco being the medium used
I have never had a problem over watering
and i have kept the coco completely saturated from day 1...always

when I first used coco.....along time ago
I watered like promix or soil
boy did my plants show problems

has to do with cation exchange rates and all this science stuff

but once I started keeping the coco saturated and feeding every time
my plants perked up and stopped showing all kinds of deficiencies

as a matter of fact
talking to the nutrient company yesterday
he asked me..."are you keeping your coco moist at all times? You aren't letting it dry are you? If you are letting it dry that could be your problem."

JMO
That's a fact! Mater fact everything he ever told me has been spot on. He told me hit them Autos at ...... With this Ec..... it was pretty high... for autos...
U did see my Autos right?????? What else do I need to say about Wisher???? Sry proof is in the pudding...

I will say this... Wisher almost always can back up his advice with scientific documentation and he will post links...
It's up to you to go read and confirm what he is saying...
He ain't God.... but he is YODA!
 
exactly my point

this is what I have been doing for a long time now with extremely excellent results

I have posted spent roots that were just a square block

coco ....for me.....once you understand it...is the easiest way to grow plants period...when talking hydroponically
Lol I love him. He taught me almost everything I know... but I disagree... coco can kick my ass sometimes when I'm lazy..My system is a lot more forgivable and maintainable FOR ME...
Mater fact if I could automate the system to drain and refill every week on its own, I would really really be in love! I'm in love with the RDWC...
 
That's a fact! Mater fact everything he ever told me has been spot on. He told me hit them Autos at ...... With this Ec..... it was pretty high... for autos...
U did see my Autos right?????? What else do I need to say about Wisher???? Sry proof is in the pudding...

I will say this... Wisher almost always can back up his advice with scientific documentation and he will post links...
It's up to you to go read and confirm what he is saying...
He ain't God.... but he is YODA!
thanks brother

I really just want to steer people in the right direction and I really want to see people succeed always

there is no real reason for failure...if all things are done correctly and there is failure....well i call that an "Act of God"

growing these plants is easy

what is hard is listening to them and breaking your pre conceived notion of how something is supposed to work

and I think that goes for all things in life
 
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