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My Cheap Ass Grow.

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EventHorizan said:
boom! I like that... Thanks for that!
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And a little confirmation on what you said..

It is advisable not to use seeds for a SOG grow, as any variation in height will shade some plants. If you insist, then use seeds from a variety that has been around for a long time, as they will give more stable, even growth.
 
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SpiderK said:
so ya down south they have crazy wild boar' catching contest in the deep woods. lots oh cash
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ya ,spears, knives are the thing now,,helicopters,,i aint into it,,if i punch a hole it going home to the frezzer and i cant put 40 hogs in my frezzer,,that aint fun or hunting in my opinion,,shit what im saying,i got 19 deer in the back yard just got done eating and mooching for more,,cant hunt no more so i raise um,lmao,,boy let me tell ya,,they gonna be some fighting going on soon,,im thinking about 3 weeks velvet be coming off and it be on then,,i got 4 bucks that go over 20inches,,but big daddy pigeon toe,,bad ass son of bitch,crippled and sporting 9 points this year,,i think the old boy take um all,,that deer fights to kill,it aint just pussy for him,,he kill um
 
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Just another article on Sog..
Im telling you if all I had was a 4x4 or 3x3 or smaller tent or grow area,
I would most deff use 6" pots and grow sog!
IN COCO!


Sea of Green is a wildly efficient method of growing. Its main appeal is how it allows growers to achieve maximum yields of flower heads in the shortest time. The underlying principle is to grow many smaller plants as opposed to fewer larger plants, thus reducing vegetative growth time and making it easier to completely fill a small space and maximizing light efficiency.

There are many advantages to using a SOG schedule for your grow. The disadvantages are few, but your circumstances may still prohibit you from using the SOG technique. Sea of Green divides growers—undoubtedly it’s a great technique, but is it right for you?

The Sea of Green Method
With the SOG growing method, it is vital to start off with a suitable plant variety. Since you’ll be growing small plants packed close together it will be important not to chose a plant that prefers to grow wide and branchy. If the genetics tend to mature into one main central apical bud naturally, even better.

Plant varieties that stretch in the early stages of flowering would be an inadvisable choice; varieties with a shorter flowering time would be preferred. But don’t worry; this still leaves an abundance of plant varieties that will be suitable.

Uniformity throughout the process is key to getting the best results from SOG. Cuttings should all be of identical size and taken from the same mother plant at the same time. It is best to take many more cuttings than you anticipate finally needing with SOG, and then only pick the ones that have developed to a uniform size and root mass.

Try to pick short cuttings of approximately three to six inches with actively growing tips. The cuttings you need should have rooted at the same time and be as homogeneous as possible. Any clones that don’t make the grade are not worth using in this set-up, so give them to a buddy, plant them in the greenhouse, or compost them back to nature.

It is advisable not to use seeds for a SOG grow, as any variation in height will shade some plants. If you insist, then use seeds from a variety that has been around for a long time, as they will give more stable, even growth.

Grow them on a vegetative 18/6 light schedule for a short while. There are different schools of thought on how long to veg for—vegging time can be as short as three days if you want to pack lots of plants, or up to 10 days for slower growing genetics. Just don’t overdo it! The main thing to consider is how you want to eventually fill the space.

Ideal final spacing for each SOG set-up depends on veg time. A good place to start would be using six-inch pots, thus fitting four plants per square foot of space. For this tessellation you would only veg for a very short time, triggering your cuttings three to six days after they have developed decent roots and started growing on.

Other options are using super-short cuttings in stonewool cubes packed tightly together for an incredibly dense short canopy, triggering flowering as soon as the first roots show.

If you try your first SOG grow with a plant variety you know fairly well, you will be able to make an informed choice for the length of veg time. Bear in mind that even classics will stretch a little when the lights are switched to 12/12 schedule, so allowing for this will ensure the plants are happy.

You will be looking for almost complete coverage of the space once they are positioned and flipped into flowering. Because the canopy is so short, there is not the issue of light penetration to the lower branches as you get with taller plants. Packing the plants tightly together also naturally restricts side branching too, as the plants grow upwards towards the light.

SOG is not dependent on any particular hydroponic method. You may be able to easily adapt your current system to simply hold more plants closer together. Dripper systems, flood and drain, or nutrient film technique (NFT) give great results with SOG and are easy to set up.


Deep water culture (DWC) systems are not ideal, mostly because of their physical size, so if you did want to convert some of these it would make sense to plant several cuttings in each bucket to fill out the space in a suitable manner.

There is no need to train or top the cuttings, as they are flowered before developing any real side branches. If any rogue sucker branches at the bottom start making a break for the top it would be wise to chop them off and divert the energy back into the main central apical bud.

In a SOG set-up you should expect one large central bud per plant, as opposed to lots of medium-sized buds as seen with Screen of Green technique—SCROG is pretty much the opposite ethos of SOG, using much larger plants with many side branches manually spaced out using a screen to achieve great light penetration. The end result is a matter of personal taste.

Although huge buds look impressive, they can suffer from hidden mold right down by the stalk if atmospheric conditions are not completely perfect throughout the flowering, drying and curing process.

Due to the low height needed for SOG it is possible to stack two set-ups at once on shelves above each other, pushing your use of available space even further. It is also ideal for micro grows in a grow tent or closet.

It is worth keeping the electrical conductivity, or EC (nutrient strength) of your feed down since the plants will be small anyway. Keeping the flowering EC level at 1.3 is great in a fast-flowing system. The plants don’t need more than that, and the low EC helps prevent nutrient lockout and salt accumulation. Flush as normal, around 10 days before you harvest.

Advantages to the Sea of Green Method
  • SOG is probably the easiest spacing technique to achieve a homogeneous crop—you just grow little tiddlers, pack them tight, and then set them budding! No training of plant growth required.
  • Shorter plant life means less opportunities for diseases, pests, human errors or pH/nutrient problems, which can damage your plants before they are fully mature. Plants will have a better chance at remaining healthy throughout the growth cycle, until they deliver a prime crop of top-shelf material.
  • Less vertical space is needed. By growing them short and sweet, you can pack out low spaces and even grow on shelves to double your floor space.
  • Faster crop from start to finish. If you need to get a crop done quickly, this is the best way. You could be reaching for your trimming scissors in less than nine weeks from taking the cuttings or planting the seeds.
  • Super-fast trimming process at the end, with a higher ratio of prime buds to smaller trim leaves.
  • Less organic waste such as fan leaves and stems to dispose of.
  • No underdeveloped lower buds as can sometimes be found on larger plants.
Disadvantages to the Sea of Green Method
  • In situations where there is a legally defined limit of plant numbers, a continuous SOG schedule would inevitably exceed recommended limits. This is probably the No. 1 reason people choose not to use SOG. To get a continuous cycle on rotation, with several mother plants you could easily find yourself with more than 100 plants for a modest-sized grow.
  • There is more work required on the front-end, such as potting up, taking clones, setting up drippers, etc.
  • If pests or pathogens do take hold, they can take over your entire crop very quickly due to the tightly packed environment.
  • You will need a huge mother plant to service so many cuttings regularly.
  • Lots of grow medium to dispose of every time.
  • Limited plant variety choices due to the required (and restricted!) growth characteristics.
  • Less quantity of trim leaves isn’t necessarily a good thing if you like making your own concentrates.
Sea of Green is a super-fast and productive way of getting a really uniform crop. If you are unconcerned about high plant numbers, it might just become your favorite method of growing.
 
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my triple purple pie double SCROG filling out the 5 by 8 screen
 

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SpiderK said:
Jp

bowls up.

run the kiss method then make small changes ... at some point you can run everything with the same recipe your already at 90% i bet your environment is more the issue. try giving them 4-5 hours of fresh air and real sun mid day even if its a few times per week.

just try it with one and run the same clone in tent only, try different test ....
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oldskol4evr said:
hahaah right,,i got a fetish with crawling into hog infested territory,,357 weaon of choice,,if you crawl down threw there and they just look at ya and them heads be swaying,,the asshole done got in your shit,lmao,,and many theives crawl on there hands and knees for weed,,i find my a thick ass spot by water cut down minimal brush and i make a whore juice that keeps everything away even me at times,,citronella ,comfrey,,jalepino,garlic,peppermint and rosemary,,neem,,throw all that shit together and you got gas,,nothing,bugs animals humans want to be around it,,dont believe it make some up,,just remember i warned ya if you got to puking and snot running out that head while blind,lmao,,shit reeks for a mile
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Thats alot of shit.
 
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SpiderK said:
my brother would go down south with a bad pit and put it in a huge pen in the woods like three acres down soooouth ...

guys showing up from all over with american bull dogs with massive protective vest.

with a wild bore'

so these dogs walk sloowwwww like robots then dance with pig before fight. the pit ran full speed and jumped and grabbed it an acre away, but had bite on side of head, so this thing is 170 lbs , dog is like 70 .... gets back twisted around small tree, again, this fight is inside three acre pen in the woods with 500 rednecks .....

bud drops camera thinking dog broke is back, it sprang up sprinted at this wild boar grabbed it by the face and pulled it around like a twig ...

guys offered him 10,000 grand cash before he hit the exit with dog .....
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Was the dog ok after. Thats good cash aswell.
 
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tifosi said:
Looks like you have that grow dialed in EH.
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Well it was really a pheno run.. here is what they looked like 4 days ago before I supercropped them..
I had to remove the males then fill out the space... so I super cropped..
If this was a real run of all clones monocropped,
the screen would be completely filled in..
My next run will be like that!
 

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EventHorizan said:
Well it was really a pheno run.. here is what they looked like 4 days ago before I supercropped them..
I had to remove the males then fill out the space... so I super cropped..
If this was a real run of all clones monocropped,
the screen would be completely filled in..
My next run will be like that!
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nice
 
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