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SmithsJunk

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I used Garden Safe insecticidal soap when I first tried fighting the spider mites. If you want something super gentle that will control most pests to some degree. May be an option for you this late in your grow. When I sprayed my plants they loved it. Grew like crazy for about a week. The active ingredient is 1% potassium salts of fatty acids. So I'm guessing, not only did it kill a decent amount of mites, but it acted as a foliar feeding as well.

I don't think you can go too wrong with a little extra potassium during flower. I don't think it would leave a taste in the buds, but do your research to make sure if you decide to use it.

Hope this gives you another option beside Neem alone.
 
Strangeone

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I used Garden Safe insecticidal soap when I first tried fighting the spider mites. If you want something super gentle that will control most pests to some degree. May be an option for you this late in your grow. When I sprayed my plants they loved it. Grew like crazy for about a week. The active ingredient is 1% potassium salts of fatty acids. So I'm guessing, not only did it kill a decent amount of mites, but it acted as a foliar feeding as well.

I don't think you can go too wrong with a little extra potassium during flower. I don't think it would leave a taste in the buds, but do your research to make sure if you decide to use it.

Hope this gives you another option beside Neem alone.
Hey smithsjunk, what do you think about ladybugs?
 
SmithsJunk

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Hey smithsjunk, what do you think about ladybugs?

I think they're a waste of money. Every time I've released them they have big orgy and fy away the next morning. They don't even eat anything. Out of the last 1500 batch, I have 1 that stayed. If they sold the eggs or larva it'd be a lot more effective. If your going to use helper bugs, mites seem like the best bet to me. Though I haven't used them yet, I'm now partial to predatory bugs without wings. Plus, ladybugs are best for aphids, mite munching is secondary. Mites specifically eat mites. I didn't try them first because I don't want more mite husks in my flowers. My delivery co-op guy says they fall off when their dead. Cool.
 
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I think they're a waste of money. Every time I've released them they have big orgy and fy away the next morning. They don't even eat anything. Out of the last 1500 batch, I have 1 that stayed. If they sold the eggs or larva it'd be a lot more effective. If your going to use helper bugs, mites seem like the best bet to me. Though I haven't used them yet, I'm now partial to predatory bugs without wings. Plus, ladybugs are best for aphids, mite munching is secondary. Mites specifically eat mites. I didn't try them first because I don't want more mite husks in my flowers. My delivery co-op guy says they fall off when their dead. Cool.
Cool thanks Man, it was just a thought..
 
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I second the Azamax! That stuff rocks. I scope my plants weekly, and foliar spray with Azamax the first sign of bugs and they are gone within days.

Strangeone, your plants are looking very healthy. Although they do look a little heat stressed to me. How have your temps been, and are you using a shade cloth?
 
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I second the Azamax! That stuff rocks. I scope my plants weekly, and foliar spray with Azamax the first sign of bugs and they are gone within days.

Strangeone, your plants are looking very healthy. Although they do look a little heat stressed to me. How have your temps been, and are you using a shade cloth?
The temps have been around 107Ā° lately, And no shade cloth, they're in a little greenhouse, they get about 7 hours of direct sunlight a day and they have been looking a little heat stressed.
 
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I second the Azamax! That stuff rocks. I scope my plants weekly, and foliar spray with Azamax the first sign of bugs and they are gone within days.

Strangeone, your plants are looking very healthy. Although they do look a little heat stressed to me. How have your temps been, and are you using a shade cloth?
And I'm happy to say that the lace bugs are gone!! But now I'm dealing with cattapillers!!! But I ordered some bt cattapiller killer, anybody use that stuff??
 
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I had the same problem. My outdoor plants are sitting on pea gravel, between the house and the fence. My infrared thermometer would say the gravel would get to 140Ā°F. My leaf temps were in the 90's. It was just baking my plants. I built a simple structure and put a shade cloth over them from a local garden center. I got it on sale as they were going out of business. Not only did the heat stress go away but the growth took off. Now it can be 100Ā°F in direct sunlight and my leaf temp is a happy 80Ā°F. If you are routinely over 100Ā°F I would definitely invest in the shade cloth. I got mine for about 20 bucks, but that was on sale, so normally there around $40 for a 10' x 20'.

This is an earlier photo right after I set the cloth up.
 
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Strangeone

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I had the same problem. My outdoor plants are sitting on pea gravel, between the house and the fence. My infrared thermometer would say the gravel would get to 140Ā°F. My leaf temps were in the 90's. It was just baking my plants. I built a simple structure and put a shade cloth over them from a local garden center. I got it on sale as they were going out of business. Not only did the heat stress go away but the growth took off. Now it can be 100Ā°F in direct sunlight and my leaf temp is a happy 80Ā°F. If you are routinely over 100Ā°F I would definitely invest in the shade cloth. I got mine for about 20 bucks, but that was on sale, so normally there around $40 for a 10' x 20'.

This is an earlier photo right after I set the cloth up.
Hey thanks enforcer, I've been dealing with alot of heat, they made it through a couple 115Ā° days but its just starting to cool off thank God!! I will try the shade cloth, thanks for chiming in man I really appreciate it.
 
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I had the same problem. My outdoor plants are sitting on pea gravel, between the house and the fence. My infrared thermometer would say the gravel would get to 140Ā°F. My leaf temps were in the 90's. It was just baking my plants. I built a simple structure and put a shade cloth over them from a local garden center. I got it on sale as they were going out of business. Not only did the heat stress go away but the growth took off. Now it can be 100Ā°F in direct sunlight and my leaf temp is a happy 80Ā°F. If you are routinely over 100Ā°F I would definitely invest in the shade cloth. I got mine for about 20 bucks, but that was on sale, so normally there around $40 for a 10' x 20'.

This is an earlier photo right after I set the cloth up.
What would you do about cattapillers??
 
Enforcer

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No problem bro. I saw that tacoing or canoeing in your leaves and knew right away that was the same problem I had. A shade cloth will fix you right up.
 
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Hey thanks enforcer, I've been dealing with alot of heat, they made it through a couple 115Ā° days but its just starting to cool off thank God!! I will try the shade cloth, thanks for chiming in man I really appreciate it.
Other things you guys may consider...
Lift the pots off the hot ground. A couple of sticks under the pots will accomplish this.
Shade the pots, not so much the leaves. Even a piece of plywood leaned against the pot can keep the sun from beating on the pots and heating the roots. Use some mulch on the top of the soil. Mulch can retain moisture and keep the sun from directly heating the soil and roots.
If growing in the ground, remember early in the season to water then let the soil dry on top so the roots go deep seeking moisture.
 
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Cool thanks again man, I have bt on its way :D

Cool. I'll probably pick some of that up if I ever get the worms. Also, upon further review of your photos, I must revise my earlier "looks heathy" comment to a "looks awesome". Well done on the branch development & training, and those buds are stacking nicely.
 
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