Stop The Bro Science Behind Molasses And Other Organic Stuff

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I agree it's good to see people eager to learn. If someone tells me I'm a fucking idiot and I'm doing it all wrong, as long as they have validity to back it, I'm all about it. You go to GCO and spout the shit some guys spout around here coots proteges will jump yo shit.

I asked about purchasing innoculant and was told the shits floating all around. Why would you buy it. I love the no nonsense attitude these guys acquired from coot. Wetdog, possuum, and sc00bie will bust your balls fast.
 
brazel

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i use box for my weed,no one can convince me other ways,,my bro got this organic down,i not only use his stuff i trust him ,we go way back ,i even told him one time ,not every customer will be happy,,but this one is,,nothing i mean nothing fake about better organix,and bro hampton will sure enough be right there to answer any question you got about theres and any other you wish to talk about,,i use the korean natural farming method for my outdoors gardening,really digging what it about,got 33 gal of water,with 1 bag of compost and a bag of potatoe set out to brew right now,day or so be ready for the little bit i got growing right now,,for some reason im digging you and organix think i have a problem with yall,,i dont if that the case,,i just disagree with the madness you preached other day,,tell you thus much ,i love gardening weather it be weed trees or seeds,there aint no way in hell that im gonna use piss or menstral blood or human shit or body parts ,whatever from the human body in any of my gardens ,honestly it grosses my ass out thinking folk would go that extreme,but they do,just not this cowboy,,that soil will make magic without all that mess,,so while yall been on the gross storm i just been laying back,,as you said to each there own,,anyway im a organic gardener ,cause im a broke dick on a monthly budget and have learned from several years of exercise to dig with what you got,end result is the main goal,lmao
Haha yeah I don't use piss on my biochar menstrual blood blood meal or bone meal.
Yeah like I said what I read on his website was true I would just like to see the ingredients listed. I don't have nothing against him you or anyone for that matter!

Yeah I can my mouth like a sailor I guess that's the saying, but I'll be drinking beers and laughing with you at the same time. Sometimes reading text it's hard to see that and it can come off the wrong way.


Hell yeah! I have multiple fig, passion fruit, banana and many other trees growing! Vegetables herbs!
Grow on bro!
 
Hpo777

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How do you guys go about purifying your water?
I bubble for 12 hours for the chlorine
Humic acids for the chorlamine

Anyone tried any other organic acids?
 
oldskol4evr

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Haha yeah I don't use piss on my biochar menstrual blood blood meal or bone meal.
Yeah like I said what I read on his website was true I would just like to see the ingredients listed. I don't have nothing against him you or anyone for that matter!

Yeah I can my mouth like a sailor I guess that's the saying, but I'll be drinking beers and laughing with you at the same time. Sometimes reading text it's hard to see that and it can come off the wrong way.


Hell yeah! I have multiple fig, passion fruit, banana and many other trees growing! Vegetables herbs!
Grow on bro!
im really considering some banana trees,just for the flowers,hahah act of congress to get them and seasonal,although i would eat the crap out of them,fig tree is on number 1 list according to the boss,lmao damn deer eat up everything here,but cool with me,i hand feed a few of them mama too,they tussling a bunch right now so my doe stir clear till they gone,lol,but on a adverage day i have at the least 30 come to visit,if i dont feed there ass the go to front yard,dont want them there,hahaah baby is always looking for deer po po,haha funny as hell,i get out and start making soil amending or what ever,she be the first one to play in the cow shit ,you tell her she dont care,it diffrent on her hands versus the shoes,lol,dont ask me a women thing,lol i got a lot to do to get were i want to be,i live on a straight up rock,all built soil or haul in bulk as i call it,cause nothing i have bought has meet my expectations of great garden soil,im basically buying bulk to build per say,just got a great deal at garden center,25 gallon pots used for 3.50 and 15 gal for 2.50,tried to tell them they were bigger but only charged me for 5 and 7 gal pots,,hey there trash my treasure right,got 7 of the 25 and 4 of the 15,wish i would have waited yesterday,got 7 18 gal totes from wal mart for 4 a piece,all good,now it time to build and let the shit sit over winter,total got 13/18 gal 7/25 gal 4/7 gal pots,that should fix mama little garden on top of hill up just right,lmao
 
oldskol4evr

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How do you guys go about purifying your water?
I bubble for 12 hours for the chlorine
Humic acids for the chorlamine

Anyone tried any other organic acids?
i have a well,but when i lived in the city,i used vit c asorbic acid what ever you want to call it,both same,have you checked to see if you have clorimine,i always thought i did,but found out it was double dosed with flouride instead,but i bubbled mine in 33 gallon tote and let it sit till i used it all and added a pinch of asorbic acid to it after bubbling,,keep in mind the weed does benifit from a small amount of clorine to,,wish i still had the write up on it,but ditched it,had something to do with the uptake of cal and mag if i remember right,@Ecompost gave me the link,bend his ear and he hook you with the documented studies,blew my mind,,shit been there dont miss either,mine was coming out tap at 8.5,ppm almost 750,and you could smell the clorine,every time it rained they would do something and shit would smell the whole house of bleach,,i replaced so many plumbing problems because of it,so bad ,city wanted you to get on there program of soft water dispensers,,money gimmicks in other words,everone got to line them pockets from folks that dont want to step the extra mile because its work ,if you dig,,but in my 33 gal can i used 1 tsp of asorbic acid and bubbled it for 24 hours plants and outside garden did very well
 
jewsh808

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Very old school. The extremely potent finger hash from Afghanistan is made from this plant. It's wild I have a video somewhere. The guy starts with a pile of keif and reduces it down to the size of a gumball kneading it like dough. Wetting his hands occasionally to keep hash fr9m sticking to the oils on his hands.

It turns out black.
Dang I'm interested where to get these genetics?!? My dad still talks about this strain from the 70's/80's ..one of the all time best highs supposedly
 
brazel

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How do you guys go about purifying your water?
I bubble for 12 hours for the chlorine
Humic acids for the chorlamine

Anyone tried any other organic acids?
I use hydrologic small boy kdf, I love it.
I used to skate to the water shop in five points Huntington beach and fill up a five gallon water jug with their RO pristine baller ass water and had nothing but problems I believe it was just to clean.
I couldn't tell you how many times I skated with that full 5-gallon jug just to have problems.

You can use humic and bubble and I used too but I bubbled for 24 hours but that wasn't precise just the minimum... it wasn't like I had a timer. That was my first way I still prefer the filter though. do I know what's better no but I do understand I don't actually know when it's ready with the humic and bubbling
 
brazel

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Dang I'm interested where to get these genetics?!? My dad still talks about this strain from the 70's/80's ..one of the all time best highs supposedly
Not too say this is better but if you like old school genetics which in my opinion are super dope.
Here's a couple of them...

Northern Lights #5 x Neville’s Haze
Is currently Available
Swami Organic Seed Cannabis Type:

Northern Lights #5 x Neville’s Haze

Breeding Information:
These are the original Northern Lights #5 x Neville’s Haze seeds from the first release. Coot pollinated the best female in 1991 then put the seeds away for over 25 years. We collectively germinated what we could from the rest and found a few breeders which we developed into the F3’s.

Known Phenotypes:
More sativa dominant, but indica expressions do surface.

Growth/Appearance:
Plants tend to be lanky and should be flowered ASAP upon sexing. Sativa expressions can go up and over 80 days, indica expressions can be done near 55.

Scent:
Smoke tends to be reminiscent of older imports of the 70’s with subtle sandalwood and fuely expressions.

Effect:
This is everything the original description of the type is. The only type to ever have a warning that you could lose bodily functions. This is no joke,this is not for light smokers and can induce hallucinations and temporary anxiety in those sensitive to these types of sativas.

Flowering Time:
Most will finish around 65 – 75 days

Breeder’s Notes:
These are simply an additional open pollinated swami reproduction of the line with both indica and sativa phenotypes locking it into an F4 IBL.


Cherry Bomb
Is currently Available
Name Of Type:

Cherry Bomb

Breeding Information:
Swami Organic Seed repopulated with permission from original Mr Greengenes 1979 MauiWowie IBL seeds.

Known Phenotypes:
A 50/50 hybrid from BOEL sourced and bred 70’s Oaxacan Mexican and Afghani. Selected for potency,taste,and flower shape for over 3 decades by the late Mr Greengenes.

Growth Characteristics:
Fast growing sativa expressions with the more desired ‘monkey fist’ indica expressions surfacing also.

Scent:
Metallic and sweet cherry and wood smell and taste on most.

Appearance:
Taller Mexican Oaxacan spear sativa with subdued Afghani expressions.

Effect of smoking:
Moderate to strong sativa/indica based inebriation. Not as long lasting as most Thai hybrids, some expressions are psychedelic in nature. More a midday toker’s herb as it won’t disable your thinking or driving capabilities. Nonanxiety, noncouchlock. Not extremely social, but functional.

Flowering Time:
60 - 90 days

Breeder’s notes:
This is the one and only authentic 1979 Cherry Bomb MauiWowie IBL from it’s now deceased breeder Mr Greengenes. There are a few unethical seed companies and breeders that have released Cherry Bomb under it’s own name as a Cherry Bomb hybrid crossed out to other modern types, only a couple of reputable sources for the original unmolested line still exist worldwide: Swami and Verdant Green. “Bomb Seeds” and “Reeferman Seeds” are the imposters.

I have repopulated the Cherry Bomb twice. Trying to make the same kind of selections the late Mr Greengenes noted, and at the same time maintain diversity in its various expressions from this IBL. Another future breeding will follow Mr Greengenes based selections for continuance of the line. There were intersex issues in the TO and BO x CB,but more suppressed in the pure IBL. Breeders these days recognize Maui’s as ones to carry this trait.

Mr. Greengenes often stated that he selected most for potency and a metallic cherry taste. Some expressions have a very sweet cherry like fragrance. The smoke is mellow and quite intoxicating, but not overpowering. I can recognize both Mexican and Afghani parents, but it tends to lean towards the Mexican side for sure. Mr G thought there may be Thai in the lineage, but having the BOEL come out and say exactly what the lineage is pretty much clears all speculation on origin. There may have been Thai introduced in the lineage later after BOEL breedings on the Islands, but these do indeed act more like Mexicans compared to these ripping Thai’s we have.

The ton of Oaxacan went to Hawaii. On a beach in Manzanillo, Eddie Padilla held up a spear and said it looked like a lightening bolt due to the frosty flowers glistening in the sun. They called the weed and the boat “Lightning Bolt.”


Plus others, gas pushes them through swami seeds

Not to steal the post, hijack or whatever you say I just thought I'd throw this out there no disrespect
 
jewsh808

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Not too say this is better but if you like old school genetics which in my opinion are super dope.
Here's a couple of them...

Northern Lights #5 x Neville’s Haze
Is currently Available
Swami Organic Seed Cannabis Type:

Northern Lights #5 x Neville’s Haze

Breeding Information:
These are the original Northern Lights #5 x Neville’s Haze seeds from the first release. Coot pollinated the best female in 1991 then put the seeds away for over 25 years. We collectively germinated what we could from the rest and found a few breeders which we developed into the F3’s.

Known Phenotypes:
More sativa dominant, but indica expressions do surface.

Growth/Appearance:
Plants tend to be lanky and should be flowered ASAP upon sexing. Sativa expressions can go up and over 80 days, indica expressions can be done near 55.

Scent:
Smoke tends to be reminiscent of older imports of the 70’s with subtle sandalwood and fuely expressions.

Effect:
This is everything the original description of the type is. The only type to ever have a warning that you could lose bodily functions. This is no joke,this is not for light smokers and can induce hallucinations and temporary anxiety in those sensitive to these types of sativas.

Flowering Time:
Most will finish around 65 – 75 days

Breeder’s Notes:
These are simply an additional open pollinated swami reproduction of the line with both indica and sativa phenotypes locking it into an F4 IBL.


Cherry Bomb
Is currently Available
Name Of Type:

Cherry Bomb

Breeding Information:
Swami Organic Seed repopulated with permission from original Mr Greengenes 1979 MauiWowie IBL seeds.

Known Phenotypes:
A 50/50 hybrid from BOEL sourced and bred 70’s Oaxacan Mexican and Afghani. Selected for potency,taste,and flower shape for over 3 decades by the late Mr Greengenes.

Growth Characteristics:
Fast growing sativa expressions with the more desired ‘monkey fist’ indica expressions surfacing also.

Scent:
Metallic and sweet cherry and wood smell and taste on most.

Appearance:
Taller Mexican Oaxacan spear sativa with subdued Afghani expressions.

Effect of smoking:
Moderate to strong sativa/indica based inebriation. Not as long lasting as most Thai hybrids, some expressions are psychedelic in nature. More a midday toker’s herb as it won’t disable your thinking or driving capabilities. Nonanxiety, noncouchlock. Not extremely social, but functional.

Flowering Time:
60 - 90 days

Breeder’s notes:
This is the one and only authentic 1979 Cherry Bomb MauiWowie IBL from it’s now deceased breeder Mr Greengenes. There are a few unethical seed companies and breeders that have released Cherry Bomb under it’s own name as a Cherry Bomb hybrid crossed out to other modern types, only a couple of reputable sources for the original unmolested line still exist worldwide: Swami and Verdant Green. “Bomb Seeds” and “Reeferman Seeds” are the imposters.

I have repopulated the Cherry Bomb twice. Trying to make the same kind of selections the late Mr Greengenes noted, and at the same time maintain diversity in its various expressions from this IBL. Another future breeding will follow Mr Greengenes based selections for continuance of the line. There were intersex issues in the TO and BO x CB,but more suppressed in the pure IBL. Breeders these days recognize Maui’s as ones to carry this trait.

Mr. Greengenes often stated that he selected most for potency and a metallic cherry taste. Some expressions have a very sweet cherry like fragrance. The smoke is mellow and quite intoxicating, but not overpowering. I can recognize both Mexican and Afghani parents, but it tends to lean towards the Mexican side for sure. Mr G thought there may be Thai in the lineage, but having the BOEL come out and say exactly what the lineage is pretty much clears all speculation on origin. There may have been Thai introduced in the lineage later after BOEL breedings on the Islands, but these do indeed act more like Mexicans compared to these ripping Thai’s we have.

The ton of Oaxacan went to Hawaii. On a beach in Manzanillo, Eddie Padilla held up a spear and said it looked like a lightening bolt due to the frosty flowers glistening in the sun. They called the weed and the boat “Lightning Bolt.”


Plus others, gas pushes them through swami seeds

Not to steal the post, hijack or whatever you say I just thought I'd throw this out there no disrespect
All good...now the mission begins to find that Mazar!
 
brazel

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i have a well,but when i lived in the city,i used vit c asorbic acid what ever you want to call it,both same,have you checked to see if you have clorimine,i always thought i did,but found out it was double dosed with flouride instead,but i bubbled mine in 33 gallon tote and let it sit till i used it all and added a pinch of asorbic acid to it after bubbling,,keep in mind the weed does benifit from a small amount of clorine to,,wish i still had the write up on it,but ditched it,had something to do with the uptake of cal and mag if i remember right,@Ecompost gave me the link,bend his ear and he hook you with the documented studies,blew my mind,,shit been there dont miss either,mine was coming out tap at 8.5,ppm almost 750,and you could smell the clorine,every time it rained they would do something and shit would smell the whole house of bleach,,i replaced so many plumbing problems because of it,so bad ,city wanted you to get on there program of soft water dispensers,,money gimmicks in other words,everone got to line them pockets from folks that dont want to step the extra mile because its work ,if you dig,,but in my 33 gal can i used 1 tsp of asorbic acid and bubbled it for 24 hours plants and outside garden did very well
Could it not be choline but has cal mag in it when not ran through RO?
Not being rude just fully don't remember but I think this is what you're talking about...i could be wrong
 
brazel

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All good...now the mission begins to find that Mazar!
Coots has pretty rad history. He was a member of BOEL Brotherhood of eternal love that was based out of Laguna Beach. Sunshine acid Orange Coast there's a documentary that's pretty cool. it was back in the seventies the last member just got arrested I think it was three years ago at the Orange County airport. And Peeps still be growing herb in the Hills behind Laguna. If you ever bored Google herb found grown Laguna Niguel Laguna Beach Hills the last one I remember was two years ago was like 400 plants a ranger just stumbled upon it. It was more than halfway through its flowering if I remember right...shitty
 
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Could it not be choline but has cal mag in it when not ran through RO?
Not being rude just fully don't remember but I think this is what you're talking about...i could be wrong
i didnt keep the post eco got it though,quite interesting,i know when i just bubbled the water after reading the post,i didnt have much problem after that,,my biggest issue was the lime scale in my water and it was a true pain in the ass,i just gave up on my weed with it and hauled my ass down to a machine for ro water,for the weed,using the bubbled water stopped the blossom end rot on my tomato and cucmbers as well,didnt have the blight,so there are some benifits to the clorine in the water for plant life,question is how much,so i bubbled it anyway,even bubbling doesnt gas off all of it,when i added the aditonal asorbic acid,all problem seized,like the drop of a hat,wish i still had that link,blew my mind and all that we all that grow weed have thought about it
 
brazel

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i didnt keep the post eco got it though,quite interesting,i know when i just bubbled the water after reading the post,i didnt have much problem after that,,my biggest issue was the lime scale in my water and it was a true pain in the ass,i just gave up on my weed with it and hauled my ass down to a machine for ro water,for the weed,using the bubbled water stopped the blossom end rot on my tomato and cucmbers as well,didnt have the blight,so there are some benifits to the clorine in the water for plant life,question is how much,so i bubbled it anyway,even bubbling doesnt gas off all of it,when i added the aditonal asorbic acid,all problem seized,like the drop of a hat,wish i still had that link,blew my mind and all that we all that grow weed have thought about it
I got a little confused, so you use RO water for herb? Generally when using RO water you have Cal Mag issues. As for city water you got to get a report from your local water company to see what's in it. Well water you're good. You can bubble chlorine out but I'd recommend 24 hours chloramine you can't so if you had issues when you're only bubbling it but it got better when you added I forgot what you added but whatever it was it probably neutralize the chloramine. None RO water also has cal mag.
Chlorine kills disinfect eliminates I highly doubt it's beneficial other than the area I just said but I could be wrong if you do find that report I would love to read it
 
brazel

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I order from the UK. Get Dutch passion. They're bomb
As much as I don't like giving a different point of view cuz it can be taken as rude I also want to share information... So here goes
When obtaining seeds buy from an organic breeder there was a study done where organic plants absorb all the organic material into the plant which is passed on to the seeds which are the best for growing organic.

https://www.kisorganics.com/pages/podcast

Episode 4

Hey if you haven't already listen to all these

You state side or across the pond?
 
brazel

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When I said they're best for growing organic I should say you should always want to try to find organic seed source no matter what style you grow
 
Organikz

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As much as I don't like giving a different point of view cuz it can be taken as rude I also want to share information... So here goes
When obtaining seeds buy from an organic breeder there was a study done where organic plants absorb all the organic material into the plant which is passed on to the seeds which are the best for growing organic.

https://www.kisorganics.com/pages/podcast

Episode 4

Hey if you haven't already listen to all these

You state side or across the pond?
I'm in the states. East coast
 

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