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Thatll do it. Im not a fan of nitrogen in flowerFirst 6 weeks ;)
My plants are hella leafy.
Thatll do it. Im not a fan of nitrogen in flowerFirst 6 weeks ;)
My plants are hella leafy.
Thatll do it. Im not a fan of nitrogen in flower
I feel like part of the problem is not knowing EXACTLY what the plant needs. I feed relatively light to run off every time in coco and never really have a build up in the medium unless I get busy or lazy and don't monitor my runoff. But I'll run multiple strains/phenos and it seems they all want a lil more or less nutes (based on runoff numbers and look of plant) so rather than mix up a whole new res for each plant/pheno I'll give a generalized feeding ,which may be too much for some.If your results are better with water at the end you are feeding more than is necessary.
I keep using less nutes on bigger and bigger plants as I continue practicing with the same system.
I am down to less than half the added fertilizer I used to get to this point 2 years ago. And the plants are about a third larger. I had to move up to 5 gallon buckets because they were too easy to tip over with the 3’s I have been using.
I feel like part of the problem is not knowing EXACTLY what the plant needs. I feed relatively light to run off every time in coco and never really have a build up in the medium unless I get busy or lazy and don't monitor my runoff. But I'll run multiple strains/phenos and it seems they all want a lil more or less nutes (based on runoff numbers and look of plant) so rather than mix up a whole new res for each plant/pheno I'll give a generalized feeding ,which may be too much for some.
In the end I always give them two weeks of straight water and try to get my runoff under 200ppm. Maybe it lowers my yield slightly, maybe potency too but I'm looking for complete combustion ,white ashes when burned in a RAW paper, any darkness in the ash puts the flavor off I find. Flavor and clean burning is really important to me. I've seen some beautiful bud that gets me high as fuck but if it doesn't taste good and I gotta keep relighting the joint it's shit weed imo.
Macro nutrients are mobile within the plant and the fan leaves act as reserves in times of need. If you reduce/withhold them while the plant is still growing you're effectively reducing the mobile nutrient content of the bud which I believe leads to a superior smoke
Where I'm from if you're giving pure water before harvest most refer to it as flushing regardless of if you get runoff or not. When I grow organically( my version of organic: fish hydrolysate,kelp, molasses and compost tea plus a few soil amendments) the plant would start to fade on its own 2-3 weeks before harvest but I'd still just give straight water the last two weeks. With chelated salts you've taken the uptake control away from the pants making flushing even more important IMO
I'd beg to differ on the black ash as I've seen absolutely bone dry crumble weed burn black. I dry for 2+ weeks and get the bud down to 10-12% moisture as verified by a reputable testing facility. If you're piping your bud you may not notice the burn difference between flushed and unflushed. Back in the day my family grew this absolutely stunning bud which they called Hawaiian. Some of the frostiest bud I've ever seen and so cat pissy your eyes would burn and nose water when being trimmed fresh. It NEVER burned well- ever. We tried flushing that shit for a month, dry as a bone,still no good. We'd refer to it as pipe weed lol cuz it would not burn in a zigzag even a blue. I honestly feel some terpenes are less flammable than others cuz over the years I've seen this in other strains, no matter how dry, or how much flush. And I truly feel burning a joint in a paper is really the benchmark for quality weed.I grow my plants all different stages at the same time so I always mix individual gallons of nutes for them. They all get water only until the soil depleted of nutrients.
And black ash is from moisture in the buds not nutrients. Although yellowing does help speed up the time to smooth smoke.
If I try to smoke a day 2 week old jarred bud it may still burn with some black resin buildup (moisture causes this).
If I leave the bud out on the tray overnight it will not still leave black ash and resin in the pipe. It will burn clean. It’s fully dry now.
Have you tried longer cure/ drying times without a flush?
And I say flush but I give water if that’s all the plants need. I just give whatever they need to the end.
If the leaves are yellowing then the plant is taking nutrients in from itself anyway.
What’s the difference to the flowers?
I'd beg to differ on the black ash as I've seen absolutely bone dry crumble weed burn black. I dry for 2+ weeks and get the bud down to 10-12% moisture as verified by a reputable testing facility. If you're piping your bud you may not notice the burn difference between flushed and unflushed. Back in the day my family grew this absolutely stunning bud which they called Hawaiian. Some of the frostiest bud I've ever seen and so cat pissy your eyes would burn and nose water when being trimmed fresh. It NEVER burned well- ever. We tried flushing that shit for a month, dry as a bone,still no good. We'd refer to it as pipe weed lol cuz it would not burn in a zigzag even a blue. I honestly feel some terpenes are less flammable than others cuz over the years I've seen this in other strains, no matter how dry, or how much flush. And I truly feel burning a joint in a paper is really the benchmark for quality weed.
And I'm fairly certain the level of nutrient availability from mobilized nutrients when the plant is cannibalizing itself is low. Likely lower than what's remaining in most peat /soil based mediums even after heavy leaching as I've never seen peat/soil based runoff come out any lower than 400-500ppm. No offense intended but there is sound reason why well known growers of the finest herb flush. The general consensus is it improves quality
That's what I don't get... who's cares about the leaves and if the leaves do get stripped... well it's the plant taking them and using for that bud that's still growing... So you're getting the exact opposite of what you want!?It's for plants that are being real dickheads. I've been flushing for like 4 weeks now. Still green as can be.
That's what I don't get... who's cares about the leaves and if the leaves do get stripped... well it's the plant taking them and using for that bud that's still growing... So you're getting the exact opposite of what you want!?
I think I said this.. bong
Love lots of these answer though
I feel like part of the problem is not knowing EXACTLY what the plant needs. I feed relatively light to run off every time in coco and never really have a build up in the medium unless I get busy or lazy and don't monitor my runoff. But I'll run multiple strains/phenos and it seems they all want a lil more or less nutes (based on runoff numbers and look of plant) so rather than mix up a whole new res for each plant/pheno I'll give a generalized feeding ,which may be too much for some.
In the end I always give them two weeks of straight water and try to get my runoff under 200ppm. Maybe it lowers my yield slightly, maybe potency too but I'm looking for complete combustion ,white ashes when burned in a RAW paper, any darkness in the ash puts the flavor off I find. Flavor and clean burning is really important to me. I've seen some beautiful bud that gets me high as fuck but if it doesn't taste good and I gotta keep relighting the joint it's shit weed imo.
Macro nutrients are mobile within the plant and the fan leaves act as reserves in times of need. If you reduce/withhold them while the plant is still growing you're effectively reducing the mobile nutrient content of the bud which I believe leads to a superior smoke
Where I'm from if you're giving pure water before harvest most refer to it as flushing regardless of if you get runoff or not. When I grow organically( my version of organic: fish hydrolysate,kelp, molasses and compost tea plus a few soil amendments) the plant would start to fade on its own 2-3 weeks before harvest but I'd still just give straight water the last two weeks. With chelated salts you've taken the uptake control away from the pants making flushing even more important IMO
Wouldn't a plant that is consuming itself to survive be pulling the absolute minimum to survive rather than a full course meal? If I am starving and eat part of my hand, it's going to be the smallest amount possible, just enough to not die, not enough to thrive and get myself out of whatever hellish situation caused me to need to eat it in the first place.That's what I don't get... who's cares about the leaves and if the leaves do get stripped... well it's the plant taking them and using for that bud that's still growing... So you're getting the exact opposite of what you want!?
I think I said this.. bong
Love lots of these answer though
I don't understand?Right, cause strictly smoking out of a bong is super awesome and practical for everyone
IDK but a good point!Wouldn't a plant that is consuming itself to survive be pulling the absolute minimum to survive rather than a full course meal? If I am starving and eat part of my hand, it's going to be the smallest amount possible, just enough to not die, not enough to thrive and get myself out of whatever hellish situation caused me to need to eat it in the first place.
Micro macro both have mobile, immobile and ones that kinda move. But immobile get moved. Mobile & immobile you pretty much just reference for deficiencies.I feel like part of the problem is not knowing EXACTLY what the plant needs. I feed relatively light to run off every time in coco and never really have a build up in the medium unless I get busy or lazy and don't monitor my runoff. But I'll run multiple strains/phenos and it seems they all want a lil more or less nutes (based on runoff numbers and look of plant) so rather than mix up a whole new res for each plant/pheno I'll give a generalized feeding ,which may be too much for some.
In the end I always give them two weeks of straight water and try to get my runoff under 200ppm. Maybe it lowers my yield slightly, maybe potency too but I'm looking for complete combustion ,white ashes when burned in a RAW paper, any darkness in the ash puts the flavor off I find. Flavor and clean burning is really important to me. I've seen some beautiful bud that gets me high as fuck but if it doesn't taste good and I gotta keep relighting the joint it's shit weed imo.
Macro nutrients are mobile within the plant and the fan leaves act as reserves in times of need. If you reduce/withhold them while the plant is still growing you're effectively reducing the mobile nutrient content of the bud which I believe leads to a superior smoke
Where I'm from if you're giving pure water before harvest most refer to it as flushing regardless of if you get runoff or not. When I grow organically( my version of organic: fish hydrolysate,kelp, molasses and compost tea plus a few soil amendments) the plant would start to fade on its own 2-3 weeks before harvest but I'd still just give straight water the last two weeks. With chelated salts you've taken the uptake control away from the pants making flushing even more important IMO
I might of missed something , but yeah I understand yellow and orange colors are beneath the green, purple red from sugar.
So check this out...I knew this would turn into a dick down the throat thread lol.
Why do people do it this way when they can do it my way!