Getting Material Tested For Breeding.

[jonb3994]

Is it possible to send in stuff to have tested if you live in a prohibition state/out of state? I want to have some males tested before I flower them to pick a winner....sorry I this isn't the place for this in advance.

 

[Nugg]

I'm confused..you want males to flower??can't you use female pollen to breed? So all the seeds will be female? I mean that's how I get my seeds.

 

[MIMedGrower]

Tested for what?

 

[1diesel1]

?Tested for THC or CBD content....maybe?

 

[MIMedGrower]

?Tested for THC or CBD content....maybe?

Unflowered males?

 

[1diesel1]

Unflowered males?

Lol! Roll with it bro:)

 

[MIMedGrower]

Lol!

Man you posted back before i could even reload. You Should have been a gunfighter. :-)

 

[1diesel1]

Man you posted back before i could even reload. You Should have been a gunfighter. :)

Quick as shit!!

 

[MIMedGrower]

Quick as shit!!

Im not sure i like that analogy.

 

[JWM2]

https://www.farmerfreeman.com/order

They offer sex and potency testing for CBDa and THCa. A buddy of mine had a bunch of seedlings tested. You can have them tested as soon as they get 1cm or more in length. Pretty cool. $15 a pop or less if you buy more kits.

 

[jonb3994]

https://www.farmerfreeman.com/order

They offer sex and potency testing for CBDa and THCa. A buddy of mine had a bunch of seedlings tested. You can have them tested as soon as they get 1cm or more in length. Pretty cool. $15 a pop or less if you buy more kits.

Thank you for your answer. Is there any business that you can think of off hand? I am in WI so I would prolly have to just send it in to them with no return address. (if they even do that for out of staters.

 

[jonb3994]

I'm confused..you want males to flower??can't you use female pollen to breed? So all the seeds will be female? I mean that's how I get my seeds.

When making a new strain you cant breed with Feminized seeds you need the male genetics from that strain to stabilize. Which is why I want to test for a good breeder male.

 

[hyzerflip]

When making a new strain you cant breed with Feminized seeds you need the male genetics from that strain to stabilize. Which is why I want to test for a good breeder male.

No offense bud, but you clearly have no clue what you're talking about. None of this is true.

 

[JWM2]

When making a new strain you cant breed with Feminized seeds you need the male genetics from that strain to stabilize. Which is why I want to test for a good breeder male.

Technically you can but I wouldn’t recommend it. It’s just not a good practice and if we intend to keep genetics it’s best to do it the way Mother Nature intended.

What he was referring to is stressing a plant to hermaphroditism and then collecting that pollen for use on other plants. The resulting seeds are all female. However it’s been debated for quite some time wether that is a good practice and how it can negatively affect the gene pool.

There’s a valid use for that technique but it’s not a cure all.

They say when your a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

That company is one of only a few that offer that service. In fact it’s the first I’ve seen of it so far so they may be the only game in town. I don’t think you need a return address. They send you the envelope with a prepaid address label that has their address on it. I’m pretty sure your address is nowhere to be found. So once you drop your sample in and send it off there are no identifying clues other than a serial number that you use to check the results online. So I’m prettt sure there’s no risk involved on the part of the customer.

 

[hyzerflip]

Technically you can but I wouldn’t recommend it. It’s just not a good practice and if we intend to keep genetics it’s best to do it the way Mother Nature intended.

'Natural' does not equal 'good'. Strychnine and botulism are 100% natural, but I'd prefer avoid those things that 'Mother Nature intended'.

Literally everything jonb3994 said about feminizing techniques is 100% wrong. Male genetics don't 'stabilize' anything.

Feminized seeds are no more likely to be hermaphrodites than regular seeds. It all depends on the parents you use. If you use a hermie prone parent, it's going to produce hermie prone progeny. That's equally true whether we're talking about regular or feminized seeds.

 

[Nugg]

Technically you can but I wouldn’t recommend it. It’s just not a good practice and if we intend to keep genetics it’s best to do it the way Mother Nature intended.

What he was referring to is stressing a plant to hermaphroditism and then collecting that pollen for use on other plants. The resulting seeds are all female. However it’s been debated for quite some time wether that is a good practice and how it can negatively affect the gene pool.

There’s a valid use for that technique but it’s not a cure all.

They say when your a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

That company is one of only a few that offer that service. In fact it’s the first I’ve seen of it so far so they may be the only game in town. I don’t think you need a return address. They send you the envelope with a prepaid address label that has their address on it. I’m pretty sure your address is nowhere to be found. So once you drop your sample in and send it off there are no identifying clues other than a serial number that you use to check the results online. So I’m prettt sure there’s no risk involved on the part of the customer.

In no way was I referring to stressing a plant to make pollen sacks or to just seed..that's not the way to make fem.seeds...u can ,but...no..

 

[MIMedGrower]

Technically you can but I wouldn’t recommend it. It’s just not a good practice and if we intend to keep genetics it’s best to do it the way Mother Nature intended.

What he was referring to is stressing a plant to hermaphroditism and then collecting that pollen for use on other plants. The resulting seeds are all female. However it’s been debated for quite some time wether that is a good practice and how it can negatively affect the gene pool.

There’s a valid use for that technique but it’s not a cure all.

They say when your a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

That company is one of only a few that offer that service. In fact it’s the first I’ve seen of it so far so they may be the only game in town. I don’t think you need a return address. They send you the envelope with a prepaid address label that has their address on it. I’m pretty sure your address is nowhere to be found. So once you drop your sample in and send it off there are no identifying clues other than a serial number that you use to check the results online. So I’m prettt sure there’s no risk involved on the part of the customer.

The feminized seed breeders (that know what they are doing) have been using STS sprayed usually only once after flipping. The chemical simply stops the production of ethylene which is the hormone that makes female flowers. Male flowers result at the sprayed area.

The good breeders also go through a long selection process just like a male/female breeding program.

 

[JWM2]

The feminized seed breeders (that know what they are doing) have been using STS sprayed usually only once after flipping. The chemical simply stops the production of ethylene which is the hormone that makes female flowers. Male flowers result at the sprayed area.

The good breeders also go through a long selection process just like a male/female breeding program.

Yeah I know. In fact back in the late 90s and early 2000s that was the main method used to reverse plants before folks started using colloidal silver mixtures. Silver Thiosulfate Solution.

You’re right it is a more accepted form of reversing female plants but imo that’s still not ideal and is often used as a short cut. Not every time mind you but more often than not.

When given the choice I will always choose regular seeds vs feminized. That’s me. We can discuss the pros and cons all day long and in other threads it’s been done to ad nauseam.

If it’s not used as a short cut and to be offered for sale then I’m fine with that. If you are experienced and know what you’re doing that’s one thing. But if we start petulating these methods to everyone who wants to toss pollen we will eventually have a real problem on our hands.

I’m all for advancement but I don’t think this is an ideal method to get there. But that’s me. I’ve spent hundreds of hours discussing this very topic with guys like Breeder Steve (Spice of Life), Chimera, BOG and others on CannabisWorld (and OverGrow) and TrueStoners 420 chat.

I went into those discussions with an open mind and willing to listen and absorb their years of experience in the subject matter.

I often played devils advocate and suggested why it might be beneficial only to be rebuffed in terms that are far beyond my comprehension. But the message was clear. Maybe they were stuck in their ways and maybe I am too. I just don’t like the path we are headed down currently and feel this is one of the main antagonists of the results we are currently getting among others.

Which is ironic as I see folks complaining about the lack of homogeny in the seed biz yet those same folks insist this is a good way of obtaining that goal for the preservation of the gene pool.

Don’t get me wrong I’m not against it. But again it’s a tool to be used when needed and not just used willy nilly. In the hands of a craftsman it’s a vital technique that can be properly utilized. In joe blows hands it can be dangerous and we as a community must be vigilant in making sure the ones who use it know what they are doing and the possible repercussions involved.

 

[MIMedGrower]

Yeah I know. In fact back in the late 90s and early 2000s that was the main method used to reverse plants before folks started using colloidal silver mixtures. Silver Thiosulfate Solution.

You’re right it is a more accepted form of reversing female plants but imo that’s still not ideal and is often used as a short cut. Not every time mind you but more often than not.

When given the choice I will always choose regular seeds vs feminized. That’s me. We can discuss the pros and cons all day long and in other threads it’s been done to ad nauseam.

If it’s not used as a short cut and to be offered for sale then I’m fine with that. If you are experienced and know what you’re doing that’s one thing. But if we start petulating these methods to everyone who wants to toss pollen we will eventually have a real problem on our hands.

I’m all for advancement but I don’t think this is an ideal method to get there. But that’s me. I’ve spent hundreds of hours discussing this very topic with guys like Breeder Steve (Spice of Life), Chimera, BOG and others on CannabisWorld (and OverGrow) and TrueStoners 420 chat.

I went into those discussions with an open mind and willing to listen and absorb their years of experience in the subject matter.

I often played devils advocate and suggested why it might be beneficial only to be rebuffed in terms that are far beyond my comprehension. But the message was clear. Maybe they were stuck in their ways and maybe I am too. I just don’t like the path we are headed down currently and feel this is one of the main antagonists of the results we are currently getting among others.

Which is ironic as I see folks complaining about the lack of homogeny in the seed biz yet those same folks insist this is a good way of obtaining that goal for the preservation of the gene pool.

Don’t get me wrong I’m not against it. But again it’s a tool to be used when needed and not just used willy nilly. In the hands of a craftsman it’s a vital technique that can be properly utilized. In joe blows hands it can be dangerous and we as a community must be vigilant in making sure the ones who use it know what they are doing and the possible repercussions involved.

I wish i still had a link or copy as i cant find it online anymore but pete at ch9 was interviewed by skunk magazine to speak about his fem breeding program.

It was a very involved and time consuming process.

I am sure not giving credit to pollen chuckers using colloidal silver.

My results from these seeds have been quite consistant for years.

 

[JWM2]

I wish i still had a link or copy as i cant find it online anymore but pete at ch9 was interviewed by skunk magazine to speak about his fem breeding program.

It was a very involved and time consuming process.

I am sure not giving credit to pollen chuckers using colloidal silver.

My results from these seeds have been quite consistant for years.

For sure. In the right hands it’s definately a great tool. It’s just in the hands of a tool it’s not ideal, haha. No worries tho I’ve read quite a bit about it. Never done it myself.