Why do my plants look sleep during lights on ?

[mantistoboggan]

Was created by Cap I believe, the guy that bred MAC. (I may be getting this wrong haha) but it is good stuff, I have had good experience so far mixing straight into water, but haven't used it as a tea. This is from their website:




"The root pack is a microbial inoculant. It is a proprietary blend of highly concentrated beneficial fungi and bacteria that perform many important functions in the rhizosphere (the root zone). It is not a fertilizer, and can be used in conjunction with any nutrient program. When comparing spore counts and diversity, we feel that there is no competition and no product like it! The root pack promotes plant health by boosting the immune system, increasing shoot and root growth, multiplying flower production, increasing essential oil production, and contributing to the overall well being of your plants! There are species in the root pack that will also deter algae growth on rockwool when the root pack is added to your recirculating reservoir at the rate of 1/3 tsp per gallon. The root pack is an amazing addition to your compost tea as well. Try it once and you will see. It truly is a game changer."

 

[Dirtbag]

It would, it's a very similar product. I dont like that it has molasses in it though, I think microbes are best used with no exogenous food sources so it has to form a relationship with the plants roots for a carb source.

 

[Dirtbag]

Was created by Cap I believe, the guy that bred MAC. (I may be getting this wrong haha) but it is good stuff, I have had good experience so far mixing straight into water, but haven't used it as a tea. This is from their website:




"The root pack is a microbial inoculant. It is a proprietary blend of highly concentrated beneficial fungi and bacteria that perform many important functions in the rhizosphere (the root zone). It is not a fertilizer, and can be used in conjunction with any nutrient program. When comparing spore counts and diversity, we feel that there is no competition and no product like it! The root pack promotes plant health by boosting the immune system, increasing shoot and root growth, multiplying flower production, increasing essential oil production, and contributing to the overall well being of your plants! There are species in the root pack that will also deter algae growth on rockwool when the root pack is added to your recirculating reservoir at the rate of 1/3 tsp per gallon. The root pack is an amazing addition to your compost tea as well. Try it once and you will see. It truly is a game changer."

Looks like good stuff, but I like the RAW better I think. It has some newer isolated bacillis subspecies that are extremely effective, like amiloliquefaciens. Not sure if I spelled that right lol. But yeah a lot of these products are designed to do the same thing. Protect the roots by competing with bad bacteria and fungi for the available food sources and keep the roots clean and functioning optimally, and enhancing nutrient availability.

 

[Jack og]

hey @Dirtbag how do you feel about the og biowar line for teas for this purpose?

That’s what I was gonna recommend, and it’s slightly cheaper as well

 

[mantistoboggan]

Looks like good stuff, but I like the RAW better I think. It has some newer isolated bacillis subspecies that are extremely effective, like amiloliquefaciens. Not sure if I spelled that right lol. But yeah a lot of these products are designed to do the same thing. Protect the roots by competing with bad bacteria and fungi for the available food sources and keep the roots clean and functioning optimally, and enhancing nutrient availability.

thanks for the info dirt, you are the man.

 

[Jack og]

thanks for the info dirt, you are the man.

Dirt got his shit together man

 

[Growbro20]

That’s what I was gonna recommend, and it’s slightly cheaper as well

would you say this is better than recharge ?

 

[Beachwalker]

Root damage or you're not watering enough or a combination of both in either case I would raise and or turn down the light until figured out the issue

how much water are you using for a typical watering, how often and what size pot is that?

 

[Growbro20]

Root damage or you're not watering enough or a combination of both in either case I would raise and or turn down the light until figured out the issue

how much water are you using for a typical watering, how often and what size pot is that?

5 gallon fabric pot. I started out watering the same amount I did when they were 1 gallon and I’ve been watering a little more every time. I usually use about 1.5 gallons on the 6 plants. Is that too little?

 

[Dirtbag]

5 gallon fabric pot. I started out watering the same amount I did when they were 1 gallon and I’ve been watering a little more every time. I usually use about 1.5 gallons on the 6 plants. Is that too little?

Yep. By a long shot. You should soak them till you get a little runoff, I'd guess probably 7-10 gallons or close to it to fully soak 6 x 5gallon pots.

 

[Growbro20]

Root damage or you're not watering enough or a combination of both in either case I would raise and or turn down the light until figured out the issue

how much water are you using for a typical watering, how often and what size pot is that?

should I turn off the cobs and just leave the blue lights on until the plants recover ?

 

[MIMedGrower]

A dry 5 gallon pot will likely take 1.5 gallons water to get 15-20% runoff.

I run a gallon and a quart through my 3 gallons. Let them dry and repeat.

 

[Beachwalker]

5 gallon fabric pot. I started out watering the same amount I did when they were 1 gallon and I’ve been watering a little more every time. I usually use about 1.5 gallons on the 6 plants. Is that too little?

Yes I think so, to me they look like they are chronically under-watered and need water

You want to water the entire medium every time and not just water the center of the pot

I would water til some runoff came out the bottom, about 10 or 20% from each pot and that should fix your problem

I also have five gallon grow bags so that's about 2 gallons of water per plant, good luck!

 

[Dirtbag]

Yeah underwatered for sure. But I still think you probably damaged the roots pulling them out of the fabric pots.

 

[Growbro20]

Yes I think so, to me they look like they are chronically under-watered and need water. I would water til some runoff came out the bottom, about 10 or 20% from each pot and that should fix your problem

I also have five gallon grow bags so that's about 2 gallons of water per plant, good luck!

@Beachwalker @MIMedGrower @Dirtbag i can’t believe the plants made it thru veg being so under watered. I will up the water for sure

 

[Jack og]

would you say this is better than recharge ?

They all about the same

 

[ChaoticNeal]

What’s ur temps at & Ph.

Also it may be ur lights but u could have a phosphorus def from what I seen ur stems are kinda purple looking plus some of the leafs are really dark green.

 

[Growbro20]

@Dirtbag @Beachwalker @Jack og @MIMedGrower @Beowuuulf @threatco @Dan789 thanks for the advice yesterday guys. I fed the plants a double strength dose of recharge and gave each of them a about 1 1/2 gallons. Now they look Like they’re back on track.

 

[BurnzYzBudZz]

@Dirtbag @Beachwalker @Jack og @MIMedGrower @Beowuuulf @threatco @Dan789 thanks for the advice yesterday guys. I fed the plants a double strength dose of recharge and gave each of them a about 1 1/2 gallons. Now they look Like they’re back on track.

Wow. They look extremely better. Great work taking all that advice and putting it to work. Humble growers prosper.
Burnz

 

[Jack og]

@Dirtbag @Beachwalker @Jack og @MIMedGrower @Beowuuulf @threatco @Dan789 thanks for the advice yesterday guys. I fed the plants a double strength dose of recharge and gave each of them a about 1 1/2 gallons. Now they look Like they’re back on track.

Cheers mate I’m glad the farm came through on some solutions !! Keep on growing brother