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Medical Grow – Coco, 1200w. [Himalayan Gold & OG Kush]

12/12 Day 29 Just a quick update, major swelling up by HG, its very visible now on how fast the HG is putting on size. The OG looks like it is platinum, it just encrusted in crystals.
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Medical Grow – Coco, 1200w. [Himalayan Gold & OG Kush]

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12/12 Day 29

Just a quick update, major swelling up by HG, its very visible now on how fast the HG is putting on size. The OG looks like it is platinum, it just encrusted in crystals.

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12/12 Day 30

All Good. Really need some smoke, hoping the gold fills up nice in the next two weeks so i could chop one for new years smoke.

Might even give it a light flush as snow mentioned and chop off a cola or two instead of the whole plant.

Also might water cure to have the buds fast if don't flush.

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First two are of course Himalayan Gold, very nice large buds for the 30 day mark. I am not sure how much better I could do with the HG, unless i add CO2. At the moment, the colas a fighting for space.

Second two are OG, the last one is result of some serious super cropping all over the branch, and the bitch still kept stretching so i had to bend it. I kinda got the OG down now, i would be able to get much better yield next round. The trick is the have a screen and flip the girls before they reach the screen, once flipped and the stretch over the screen, bend them in the screen and make each little popcorn in the a main cola, like this all the buds would get good light.
 

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Looking really good for your first grow... :sign0005:You're gonna have some fat colas and nice nugs to sort through at the end.

:rauch08: I just read the last half of your journal. Now I'm gonna read the 1st half cuz I'm lit and just realized we're both on near the same day of flower...

EDIT: Finally finished reading. Great job!
dude, i cannot believe I have to wait till January to enjoy the good.
I know, and the worst part is that you still have to wait for the drying and curing process...
 
Looking really good for your first grow... :sign0005:You're gonna have some fat colas and nice nugs to sort through at the end.

:rauch08: I just read the last half of your journal. Now I'm gonna read the 1st half cuz I'm lit and just realized we're both on near the same day of flower...

EDIT: Finally finished reading. Great job!
I know, and the worst part is that you still have to wait for the drying and curing process...

Appreciate your compliments man.

Thank you Shady, it's always an honor to have folks like you drop by and help me out. I am not sure how informative my journal is since there aren't any major problems i ran into, so I don't know how good it would be for learning sakes.

Your grow is looking top notch man, i am following it.

Yea about having smoke for new years, i am not doing anything serious, but even if I attend a party, i need medicine to pull my back through the entire night.

Looking at how much the plants are swelling, I would really not wanna cut an entire plant, incase the other ones end up swelling up a whole lot more after I chop it.

So I am thinking my best bet is to chop of a few decent nugs and make some edibles. I am thinking I could use the fresh non flushed nugs to make some butter, most of the chemicals should be separated in the water layer, and THC in the fat layer.

The other thing I might do is just "water cure" for 5 days and dry for 2 days.
 
Water curing is when you chop of the buds and dip them in strain in water. You change the water every 24 hours for 7 days. Then remove the bud and air dry it in a dark place for 2 days.

Pros
Allows for feeding the plant till the last minute.
Makes for quick high quality smoke.
Removes a lot more plant matter compared to air drying, so smoother smoke.
The THC level stays the same, so the ratio of THC to the plant matter is improved making it more potent.
Removes a lot cannabis odor and taste, making it more discrete.


Cons
Removes a good amount of odor and taste, which isn't good if you love the smell and flavor.
Bud weighs less, say
100g ---air dry---> 25g
100g ---water cure----> 15g
Also the appearance isn't as pleasant as air dried bud.


I have talked to folks that do it, and some really prefer this method. I at least wanna try it for the sake of making quick smoke.
 
here is a paste from wiki.

A recent method of curing is called water curing. This method is quicker and can improve a lower quality product. The freshly cut buds are submersed in water for a period of 7 straight days, changing the water daily. The buds are then dried and are ready to use. Nutrients can be added to the plants up until they are harvested. When water curing, the water will flush out harmful chemicals (such as the ones used to feed the plants) as well as proteins, sugars, pigments, chlorophyll and some resins. This will also increase the THC to weight ratio. Many believe the finished product is not as attractive as using a standard dry and cure
 
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thanks I had heard of this before but never knew anybody who did it

bro if you just chop small buds off the bottoms they wont take more then 3-5 days to dry anyhow - premature bud is gonna taste premature even if you cure it - so if your doing it for some smoke to hold you over, I wouldnt risk it... if its for new years Id go ahead and wait til xmas and get the most bang and just take schwaggy stuff from the bottoms...

If I had gone down to lalaland for that show i would have hooked you up with a jar of WW - I know what its like to be without meds.
 
Thank you for understanding bro. I will definitely wait as long as I can.

Man I wish and hope u come to lalaland, that would resolve this entire issue. You are a great person bro, looking out for others.

Ooo Maaaannnn waiting for your caseys to bud desperately, its gonna be some site.
 
12/12 Day 31

Really need some pain relief soon.

pic 1 n 2 are HG
pic 3 n 4 are OG
 

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12/12 Day 32

The canopy was extremely dense so I had to do a bit of lollipoping.
 

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The OG seems to be at its maximum on the nutes so I am gonna back off a bit.

Does the HG look like it is deficient

Pic 1 is OG, Pic 2 HG.
 

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The OG seems to be at its maximum on the nutes so I am gonna back off a bit.

Does the HG look like it is deficient

Pic 1 is OG, Pic 2 HG.

This looks just like my buddy bender's grow. Looks great. The HG really makes some huge buds!:banana:
 
Lookin' good High Tolerance! I think you could give some CalMag just on that HG plant in the last pict you posted above to help green it up a bit, but only before you consider a few things... you can see interveinal chlorosis beginning on the tips; possibly due to a high pH or Zinc deficiency. The other HG's look pretty good and I'm not sure if the last one is on the perimeter of your garden and possibly not getting the same lumens... BTW, your OG Kush looks much larger than mine. ;)

Here's a link and quote:

Zinc (Zn) Micro Nutrient and an Immobile element.


Zinc plays a lot of roles in the plants, first off zinc aids in the plants size and maturity as well as production of leaves, stalks, stems and branches. Zinc is an essential component in many enzymes as well as growth hormone auxin .Low auxin levels can be the cause of stunting of the plants leaves and the shoots. Zinc is also important in the formation and activity of chlorophyll. Plants that have a good level of Zinc, can handle long droughts. So that’s why Zinc plants an important role how it absorbs moisture.


Zinc deficiencies on some plants will have the Spotting and bleached spots (chlorosis) between the veins first appears on the older leaves first, and then goes on to the immature leaves. It will then start to slowly affect tips of growing points of the plants. When the zinc deficiency happens so suddenly, the spotting can appear to be the same symptoms to that of an iron and manganese, without the seeing the little leaf symptom.
Zinc is not mobile in plants so the symptoms will occur mainly in the newer growths. Having a plant that is deficiency in Zinc can cause small crops, short shoots and have a cluster of small distorted leaves near the tips. Between the veins (Interveinal) yellowing is often combined with overall paleness. Pale or grayish, yellowing between the veins; rosetted weak is the signs of a Zinc deficiency.
With a low level of zinc in your plants, your yields will be dramatically reduced.
Interveinal chlorosis is present in the small, narrow distorted leaves at the ends of really shortened shoots and the shortening between internodes. Leaf margins are often distorted or wrinkled. These nutrients will get locked out due to high pH: Zinc, Iron, and Manganese. These deficiencies will often occur together. Parts affected by a zinc deficiency are young leaves and petioles.

Having an excess of Zinc is very rare, but when it does happen it can cause wilting and in worse cases death.


Problems with Zinc being locked out by PH troubles

High ph, Low organic matter, High Phosphorus levels in the soil, and or lack of nitrogen.
 
Lookin' good High Tolerance! I think you could give some CalMag just on that HG plant in the last pict you posted above, but only before you consider a few things... you can see interveinal chlorosis beginning on the tips; possibly due to a high pH or Zinc deficiency. The other HG's look pretty good and I'm not sure if the last one is on the perimeter of your garden and possibly not getting the same lumens... BTW, your OG Kush looks much larger than mine. ;)

Here's a link and quote:


Thank you Shady for your compliments and terrific information. I have been watering with no run off the entire time, and as advised by a friend I will water them tomorrow with a decent amount of run-off to remove any salt build up.

I am thinking about EC 1.5 w/ 50% strength additives.

How does this sound?

I am kinda dissappointed on the OG yield thought, especially because it is growing next to HG.
 
Thank you Shady for your compliments and terrific information. I have been watering with no run off the entire time, and as advised by a friend I will water them tomorrow with a decent amount of run-off to remove any salt build up.

I am thinking about EC 1.5 w/ 50% strength additives.

How does this sound?

I am kinda dissappointed on the OG yield thought, especially because it is growing next to HG.
Yeah, I def think you need at least 10% runoff. Not sure about coco, but that's what I've been doing in soil. Flush sounds good although I'm not still on the fencepost on how to properly flush with a clearing agent and how much water is actually necessary...

As for the OG kush... I wouldn't be disappointed at all as that seems to be the nature of our lanky phenotypes... Small dense bud sites which need to be coaxed into bigger bud sites by training, supercropping, lst, etc. I'm not sure of the lineage of the HG, but it def seems to be a hybrid leaning towards the sativa side of things... Big fat colas!
 
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