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Could my blurple be better than a full spectrum?

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Could my blurple be better than a full spectrum?

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#221
gorillaglueaaron said:
You save money with LED because of electricity from the light and fan required because of the heat. Also I'm not 100% sure about this but I think LEDs last a lot longer so you won't have to replace them for a long time.
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there are many reasons led can be more cost efficient as well as yield higher.

but up front cost is less for hps and you know what you will be getting. Mine are high line air cooled reflectors with 95% german reflective aluminum inserts. Got them on sale 7 years ago for $125 each.

it will cost over $2000 to replace them with equal quality led lamps. It is still cheaper even with replacement bulbs all this time to keep running the lamps i own.
 
#222
Elxfeezy said:
How much research of yours if actual research and not just gathered from this site? Under sufficient lighting, lst promotes short and copious internode. Prof Bruce Bugbee of Crop Physiology, was the one who actually told me that LED don’t put out as high intensity. If they did, there wouldn’t be HO LED. Of course every plants needs C02, but the big boys using HPS can bulk up their crop simply by adding C02, you don’t get equal results with LED simply because it’s not as intense. And yes HPS is expensive, because it’s the best proven way. No other way has been proven to out preform.
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I think there's a misunderstanding here about intensity, are you referring to umols/w or ppfd or something else?
 
#223
MIMedGrower said:
you sure? A nice 250w hps in a rectangular deep reflector would work great in your space. :-)
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It’s not that I don’t like LED, I think they are great, they are much easier and safer, cheaper if you buy cheap brands. I ran all LED until I got some free HPS lights and they just out preformed my led. I have like 3 mars hydro and my one 400 watt beats them all at once on a lumen test.
 
#224
MIMedGrower said:
there are many reasons led can be more cost efficient as well as yield higher.

but up front cost is less for hps and you know what you will be getting. Mine are high line air cooled reflectors with 95% german reflective aluminum inserts. Got them on sale 7 years ago for $125 each.

it will cost over $2000 to replace them with equal quality led lamps. It is still cheaper even with replacement bulbs all this time to keep running the lamps i own.
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Yes, I agree that they are cheaper upfront but as I said, you save the money over time.
 
#226
Elxfeezy said:
It’s not that I don’t like LED, I think they are great, they are much easier and safer, cheaper if you buy cheap brands. I ran all LED until I got some free HPS lights and they just out preformed my led. I have like 3 mars hydro and my one 400 watt beats them all at once on a lumen test.
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Mars hydros are some of the least efficient LEDs and have some of the worst spectrum, they're bad examples but I see your point.
 
#228
Elxfeezy said:
It’s not that I don’t like LED, I think they are great, they are much easier and safer, cheaper if you buy cheap brands. I ran all LED until I got some free HPS lights and they just out preformed my led. I have like 3 mars hydro and my one 400 watt beats them all at once on a lumen test.
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the newer led diodes in boards and bars will out perform even double ended hps. And bruce bugby agrees and is using led in his grow lab.

Funny how fast 315 cmh came and went.
 
#230
Elxfeezy said:
Is that factual or more of your opinion? Cause I like facts not just what’s trending....like leds.
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It's factual, mars hydro produce the most heat out of all the LEDs I've looked into and have the most blue light.
 
#231
gorillaglueaaron said:
Yes, I agree that they are cheaper upfront but as I said, you save the money over time.
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with 2 600’s in a 4x8 area they would not have saved me money.

and i might need to heat the room in winter during lights on.


lots of variables. I live in a cold place.
 
#232
MIMedGrower said:
the newer led diodes in boards and bars will out perform even double ended hps. And bruce bugby agrees and is using led in his grow lab.

Funny how fast 315 cmh came and went.
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That’s what all the salesman say, but the industry standard stays the same. I like to focus on what works best now.
 
#235
Elxfeezy said:
That’s what all the salesman say, but the industry standard stays the same. I like to focus on what works best now.
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people i follow here and elsewhere are proving it. And less air conditioning was needed. I have been watching since the beginning. The prices have kept me from buying. I posted my example above.
 
#236
tomatoesarecooltoo said:
Atleast we agree that blurples are the worst right?
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no high end discreet colored diode lamps perform as well.

and furthermore the technology will head in that direction. Nasa and the university of michigan are testing discreet colors for effects and crop specific indoor lighting could result.

yes. A tomato spectrum. A lettuce spectrum. Gasp an indica hybrid spectrum.

but they have no use for “white” “full spectrum” diodes in testing at least.
 
#237
MIMedGrower said:
with 2 600’s in a 4x8 area they would not have saved me money.

and i might need to heat the room in winter during lights on.


lots of variables. I live in a cold place.
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You wouldn’t care when you saw the difference in your buds.
MIMedGrower said:
people i follow here and elsewhere are proving it. And less air conditioning was needed. I have been watching since the beginning. The prices have kept me from buying. I posted my example above.
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I’ll give you that. The AC is a serious consideration. With LEDs you can get away without having to remove hot air. Not HPS.
 
#238
MIMedGrower said:
no high end discreet colored diode lamps perform as well.

and furthermore the technology will head in that direction. Nasa and the university of michigan are testing discreet colors for effects and crop specific indoor lighting could result.

yes. A tomato spectrum. A lettuce spectrum. Gasp an indica hybrid spectrum.

but they have no use for “white” “full spectrum” diodes in testing at least.
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Dang worth a shot.
 
#239
MIMedGrower said:
no high end discreet colored diode lamps perform as well.

and furthermore the technology will head in that direction. Nasa and the university of michigan are testing discreet colors for effects and crop specific indoor lighting could result.

yes. A tomato spectrum. A lettuce spectrum. Gasp an indica hybrid spectrum.

but they have no use for “white” “full spectrum” diodes in testing at least.
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Yeah but at the end of the day, while you wait for your lights to catch up, your plants are second rate. I will admit, because I have been in the swing of HPS, i forget how much easier not is to deal with LED. I was much more comfortable leaving my tent alone with LeD. I ALWAYS worry about temp with HPS.
 
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