Plants ~3 weeks old, haven't fed them and they looked burned. Halp?

[GrandmaGanja]

I just moved these from their first little pots to their next size 3 days ago, so maaaaaaybe they're a little stressed from it? They were lightly root bound, but not terribly. I haven't fed any of them. They were originally potted in Coast of Maine yellow bag soil. I repotted them into 50% of the same and 50% of homemade compost. Someone help diagnose? They look a bit muddy because I watered them just before I took the pics.

Growing 5 strains:

Maui Wowi
Black Widow
Skywalker OG
LA Confidential
NYC Diesel

Currently in a grow tent. ~70F degrees and ~40% humidity. 24/0 light cycle.

 

[Edinburgh]

Skywalker is an auto and they do not like to be tranplanted, your mix may be to hot or light to close, it's not impossible to transplant autos but will need time to calm down probably stressed it.

 

[GrandmaGanja]

Skywalker is an auto and they do not like to be tranplanted, your mix may be to hot or light to close, it's not impossible to transplant autos but will need time to calm down probably stressed it.

I got them from ilgm.com, fem non-auto seeds. I did raise the light a bit

 

[NorCalCrop650]

I just moved these from their first little pots to their next size 3 days ago, so maaaaaaybe they're a little stressed from it? They were lightly root bound, but not terribly. I haven't fed any of them. They were originally potted in Coast of Maine yellow bag soil. I repotted them into 50% of the same and 50% of homemade compost. Someone help diagnose? They look a bit muddy because I watered them just before I took the pics.

Growing 5 strains:

Maui Wowi
Black Widow
Skywalker OG
LA Confidential
NYC Diesel

Currently in a grow tent. ~70F degrees and ~40% humidity. 24/0 light cycle.

I’ve noticed similar things happening to me when I was first starting to grow and looking back it was always an issue related to stress or genetics. Check all the boxes for stress, are you over or under watering the plants? (Looks like they might be over watered a little but you did say you just watered them. Also doesn’t seem like you have anything to support drainage within the soil like perlite or vermiculite), is the light too close? Is the environment fluctuating a lot?
But basically just work down the line for yourself really in any situation smt comes up with the plants to come to the root of the problem. And then if you are certain it’s not stress then it might just be imperfect genetics. But cases I’ve had my plants look like that, they bounce back with some distant care meaning don’t mess with them too much to avoid stressing them further.

 

[lvstealth]

compost is too hot for that age.

 

[GNick55]

100% overwatered!
that soil looks too compact for seedlings..
don’t be afraid to let it dry out!!
watch this...

 

[GNick55]

also water with a spray bottle with young clones and seedlings..

 

[dire wolf]

also water with a spray bottle with young clones and seedlings..

I agree with GNick ,and this is basically the most important piece of advice I would give new growers , and even experienced growers for that matter

 

[dire wolf]

I just moved these from their first little pots to their next size 3 days ago, so maaaaaaybe they're a little stressed from it? They were lightly root bound, but not terribly. I haven't fed any of them. They were originally potted in Coast of Maine yellow bag soil. I repotted them into 50% of the same and 50% of homemade compost. Someone help diagnose? They look a bit muddy because I watered them just before I took the pics.

Growing 5 strains:

Maui Wowi
Black Widow
Skywalker OG
LA Confidential
NYC Diesel

Currently in a grow tent. ~70F degrees and ~40% humidity. 24/0 light cycle.

Hey grandma , get rid of the compost , get " perlite" re mix coast of Maine with perlite ....or go with " promix / perlite / coast of Maine mix " problem solved

And repot soon , before everything is dead
Your mix is presently unnaceptable

Your can add your homemade compost later when your plants get stronger

Skywalker is not an " auto" strain , either so don't get confused by that comment

 

[dire wolf]

And your saying those tiny plants were " root bound " in the smaller cups ? Not sure that is possible but ....if you say so , ok

 

[TSD]

I would also go down to 18/6 on your lights. I don't get the whole 24 hours of light thing, I know some swear by it, but in my opinion they need time to rest and grow... especially if they are already stressed.

 

[GrandmaGanja]

Okay, general consensus is my soil is poorly so I should repot them with perlite. I'm worried about stress, I just repotted them 4 days ago and doing it again to sickly plants could kill them all? And then my next step would be to water them less.

 

[Homesteader]

Your soil looks too heavy as other have said and it is causing a pH issue. You need to get that soil in between 6 and 7 and when it is bogged down with too much water and no drainage your pH drops. Invest in the best soil you can afford for now. You can learn to make your own later but this kinda looks like garden soil from a bag. Does it have nutrients in it?

 

[Effendi]

Grandma, what the hell is in that mix? I'm seeing wood, leaves, parts of a kitchen sink and clearly an array of compost garbage.

There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with your starts short of they obviously can't get a root start in your messy mixture.

Put the garbage in the garbage and get a bag of pro-mix, add nothing, just give the roots a chance to stabilize in actual media rather than chunks of wood and garden debris.

I will absolutely NOT argue about bio mixes and organic fancies, I will just say that in NO SCENARIO is it good to have rotten leaves and chunks of wood in your mix.

Don't worry about transplanting them again so soon, you need to get their initial set to be solid.

O and 24 hours of light is a waste of equipment and energy (as others have pointed out) Both babies and gear need rest time, save 25% on power and give your babies a 6 hour break.

Carry on. :)

 

[GrandmaGanja]

Grandma, what the hell is in that mix? I'm seeing wood, leaves, parts of a kitchen sink and clearly an array of compost garbage.

There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with your starts short of they obviously can't get a root start in your messy mixture.

Put the garbage in the garbage and get a bag of pro-mix, add nothing, just give the roots a chance to stabilize in actual media rather than chunks of wood and garden debris.

I will absolutely NOT argue about bio mixes and organic fancies, I will just say that in NO SCENARIO is it good to have rotten leaves and chunks of wood in your mix.

Don't worry about transplanting them again so soon, you need to get their initial set to be solid.

O and 24 hours of light is a waste of equipment and energy (as others have pointed out) Both babies and gear need rest time, save 25% on power and give your babies a 6 hour break.

Carry on. :)

Indeed I very much messed up my mix. Luckily it is very early, and not a total loss if they die and I need to sprout new ones.

-Since I just repotted them and they're stressed, will it stress them fatally to repot them so soon?
-What is the best method of repotting them and changing their soil without killing them? They have some roots already.

 

[Effendi]

Indeed I very much messed up my mix. Luckily it is very early, and not a total loss if they die and I need to sprout new ones.

-Since I just repotted them and they're stressed, will it stress them fatally to repot them so soon?
-What is the best method of repotting them and changing their soil without killing them? They have some roots already.

Really not to worry, messing up our mix is standard operating procedures for most. They read to many opinions and believe they need too much radical change.

And Not a total loss at all. The babies seem solid if not stagnant, I would get ANY kind of potting mix and gently shake the mix off of them. fill a 1 gallon half way up with potting soil, sprinkle a little Myko if you got it, gently fill the container up around the root source and water lightly. Set it back under the light and don't touch for two weeks.

They will come right back to life. They will not die for the transplant unless you break the roots while potting. Just be careful, move slow and treat them like the delicate flower they are.

:)

ps pro-grower tip that's 100% always correct. EVERY GROWER ALWAYS OVERWATERS. Use 25% of the water you think you need no matter the media and you'll be OK. When I transplant up, I do not water for three weeks. If you have moisture present, there is no need for the roots to grow in order to find water. Fight every urge you have to water, no matter how dry you think the media is, it's really not. If you force roots to seek the edges of their confinement, they will. If you can demonstrate restraint on watering until you actually see a leaf wilting. You win.

Carry on

 

[lvstealth]

is that the roots of the plant just laying on top there in the bottom plant?

and you have cliffs and valleys and even trenches in your pots, and one is only about half full.

all that you can fix pretty fast.

your home made compost is not ready yet. there are lots of not yet composted things in that dirt.

 

[TSD]

Indeed I very much messed up my mix. Luckily it is very early, and not a total loss if they die and I need to sprout new ones.

-Since I just repotted them and they're stressed, will it stress them fatally to repot them so soon?
-What is the best method of repotting them and changing their soil without killing them? They have some roots already.

They are going to die if they keep taking up whatever is on that mix. I just flip mine over into my hanf, gently squeeze the pot to get them out, in your case I would gently remove as much soil as you can, put them into dry premix, then water well. You can get organic Promix if that's the route you're taking.

 

[TSD]

is that the roots of the plant just laying on top there in the bottom plant?

and you have cliffs and valleys and even trenches in your pots, and one is only about half full.

all that you can fix pretty fast.

your home made compost is not ready yet. there are lots of not yet composted things in that dirt.View attachment 1118389

Oooo I didn't notice that... yeah the mix is wayyyy to dense and they aren't in it well... get those roots out of the light asap, if that's what they are.

 

[dire wolf]

Hey grandma , don't stress it ... We're here to help although I think you got the message ...
Those plants you have are good genetics , and although they look a bit messed up now , I highly doubt that they will die when you set them straight in a well blended high perlite mix ...
The only thing that might kill them is when you pull them from the heavy compost dirt mix they are in , try as hard as you can to let them dry so the weight of the wet compost dosent tear the roots out of the plant , that's really your only obstacle , put your palm on the soil , lay the pot horizontal and try to slowly remove the plant , you can use a butter knife around the inside of the pot to free the wet soil from the plastic container , after that take a pencil or something similar and free the root system from the muck ....
The plants will definitely spring back in two weeks ....
Easy on the light , easier on any feed , and be patient ...they will make it........
Spray the new soil lightly and keep it medium dry , use your mister to water around the stem gently , if you pour water directly into the newly transplanted container , you'll be in trouble again
Don't let the shitty looking plants fool you , when they recover in 2 weeks they'll turn into monsters