TheWalkingPlant
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Hello Farm,
Let me preface this by stating that I do not think this is a good way to do things, and I’m not trying to reinvent the wheel. Just trying to glean any info I can learn before trying this experiment again.
anyway, I am trying to turn an unintentional mistake into a learning experience and wanted to see if anyone had any rabbit holes for me to research on the topic. I can’t seem to find anything about intentionally using 24/0 veg and 16/8 flower schedule. Everything I see about alternative light schedules is just about 11/13
tldr: plants went from indoor 24/0 to outside roughly 16ish hours of day in mid - late June. They’re mid flower right now, and all have been pollinated. Wondering if they’ll finish, or reveg then finish, if seeds will finish if it regenerates, and if I will have a higher biomass due to more light hours during bulk, but still have benefits of decent quality with a quicker finish since they were acclimated to 24/0.
Long version: I took my plants from inside under fluorescent light at 24/0 and started to harden them off in late June. I ended up having to go out of town for a week, so They were left outside where they got about ~6ish hours of direct mid day sun, and about 16 hours of ambient light. I’m just glad they all stayed healthy while it was hot and bright AF that week. One of my seeds actually stunted, but I was too stubborn to kill it. I’m in SoCal.
Anyway this brings me to my questions. While I would not regularly veg indoor for an outdoor plant, I am considering the pros / cons of how it is working out as of now. We’re in mid July now and the plants are still chugging along in flower, no signs of wanting to reveg, most have started producing resin, and seem to be going at regular pace (although This the first time I’ve flowered several of the strains, so I don’t have anything to compare them to). I have a flowering male inside that I’m using to pollinate. I’m curious to see how it goes, more specifically If they either 1- finish normally and end up having way more light during bulking phase, 2- if they regenerate, if I still get mature seeds out of it, and then I get the option of re flowering like a normal season with the bonus of having some seeds to test / eat in the off season. I’ve heard you can pollinate a plant in veg if it’s producing hairs, and that a plant will finish producing seeds even if it regenerates, but my attempts at this have never been successful.
what I came here to ask is this: I’ve seen / heard a lot of talk about the 11/13 cycle and how it’s helps with quality / speed but sacrifices yield. Seems like 13/11 gets you higher yield, but a sacrifice in quality and takes longer to finish. I’m wondering if you can achieve both higher yields without sacrificing quality and speed if the plants are acclimated to 24/0 and then flower at 16/8 and finish mid summer with the light being most intense while they ripen. I’m not trying to reinvent the wheel or over complicate things, I’m just trying to see if I can learn something while making some lemonade. I’m also thinking that I might be able to just do a full open outdoor pollination without being that asshole since it seems that nobody else would have any plants in flower atm? I’m thinking I might try to recreate this scenario, but either: 1- time it differently (start some earlier / later) or 2- use supplemental light in the beginning to make it seem to the plant like the days are getting shorter instead of longer. So far the only issue I’m having is that the landrace male that I was hoping to use is taking for-fucking-ever to drop pollen so the only seeds I actually have growing atm are from the one random male I didn’t kill from last seed pop, so they’re probably going to end up just being expensive non organic food. I guess I also have a secondary question being if a stunted female plant can actually make viable seeds? Or if they will be fubar.
Current status / pictures of plants are attached.
lookiny for any advice, pointers, direction, research, opinions, criticism, funny memes, etc...
thanks farm
Let me preface this by stating that I do not think this is a good way to do things, and I’m not trying to reinvent the wheel. Just trying to glean any info I can learn before trying this experiment again.
anyway, I am trying to turn an unintentional mistake into a learning experience and wanted to see if anyone had any rabbit holes for me to research on the topic. I can’t seem to find anything about intentionally using 24/0 veg and 16/8 flower schedule. Everything I see about alternative light schedules is just about 11/13
tldr: plants went from indoor 24/0 to outside roughly 16ish hours of day in mid - late June. They’re mid flower right now, and all have been pollinated. Wondering if they’ll finish, or reveg then finish, if seeds will finish if it regenerates, and if I will have a higher biomass due to more light hours during bulk, but still have benefits of decent quality with a quicker finish since they were acclimated to 24/0.
Long version: I took my plants from inside under fluorescent light at 24/0 and started to harden them off in late June. I ended up having to go out of town for a week, so They were left outside where they got about ~6ish hours of direct mid day sun, and about 16 hours of ambient light. I’m just glad they all stayed healthy while it was hot and bright AF that week. One of my seeds actually stunted, but I was too stubborn to kill it. I’m in SoCal.
Anyway this brings me to my questions. While I would not regularly veg indoor for an outdoor plant, I am considering the pros / cons of how it is working out as of now. We’re in mid July now and the plants are still chugging along in flower, no signs of wanting to reveg, most have started producing resin, and seem to be going at regular pace (although This the first time I’ve flowered several of the strains, so I don’t have anything to compare them to). I have a flowering male inside that I’m using to pollinate. I’m curious to see how it goes, more specifically If they either 1- finish normally and end up having way more light during bulking phase, 2- if they regenerate, if I still get mature seeds out of it, and then I get the option of re flowering like a normal season with the bonus of having some seeds to test / eat in the off season. I’ve heard you can pollinate a plant in veg if it’s producing hairs, and that a plant will finish producing seeds even if it regenerates, but my attempts at this have never been successful.
what I came here to ask is this: I’ve seen / heard a lot of talk about the 11/13 cycle and how it’s helps with quality / speed but sacrifices yield. Seems like 13/11 gets you higher yield, but a sacrifice in quality and takes longer to finish. I’m wondering if you can achieve both higher yields without sacrificing quality and speed if the plants are acclimated to 24/0 and then flower at 16/8 and finish mid summer with the light being most intense while they ripen. I’m not trying to reinvent the wheel or over complicate things, I’m just trying to see if I can learn something while making some lemonade. I’m also thinking that I might be able to just do a full open outdoor pollination without being that asshole since it seems that nobody else would have any plants in flower atm? I’m thinking I might try to recreate this scenario, but either: 1- time it differently (start some earlier / later) or 2- use supplemental light in the beginning to make it seem to the plant like the days are getting shorter instead of longer. So far the only issue I’m having is that the landrace male that I was hoping to use is taking for-fucking-ever to drop pollen so the only seeds I actually have growing atm are from the one random male I didn’t kill from last seed pop, so they’re probably going to end up just being expensive non organic food. I guess I also have a secondary question being if a stunted female plant can actually make viable seeds? Or if they will be fubar.
Current status / pictures of plants are attached.
lookiny for any advice, pointers, direction, research, opinions, criticism, funny memes, etc...
thanks farm