AuntMeanie
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I took a ton of photos, here is a link to a google photo album that has a bunch of pictures and some videos of the plants in their various stages of death. I think they are all suffering from the same deficiencies just in different stages. https://photos.app.goo.gl/pnYxWeiHyux6XXADA
This is a link to my grow diary for general specs or if your curious to see how someone could mess up their grow so completely. lol https://growdiaries.com/diaries/87550-grow-journal-by-meaniepants I have not updated weeks 8-10 with any info except a photo.
Some background on how I tried to kill my plants...
I started this grow by watching a zillion videos with my key takeaway being
1-don't over water
2- don't transplant autos
3- don't feed full strength.
I took it seriously, so my tiny little sprouts were put into 3 gallon pots of Fox Farm happy frog potting soil. (didn't realize this already had enough nutrients to last several weeks so I started nutrients in the 2nd week of Veg) I use Fox farm nutrients and follow their soil feeding schedule. I bought the Dirty Dozen starter kits and it did not have 2 products in that the feeding schedule but since they were not in the kit I assumed they must not be too important. They were.... Wholly Mackerel N 0.12% K 0.43% & kelp me kelp you N 0.69% P 0.44% I used a turkey baster to slowly drip a couple ounces of water around each plant I water for the first month. I didn't realize by watering like this for a month that I was making the nutrients build up just below the the root line each watering. I waited to water till the plants were very dry. Now looking back Way way to dry before watering. I think that is why they were not growing. I was only giving them enough to stay alive not thrive.
Here is a break down of what I did when....
Day 14 12/9
plain water
Day 23 12/18
1/4 gallon each with week 2 schedule, with the addition of calmag+(2-0-0) @ 50% strength
Day 27 12/22
1/4 gallon each with week 2 schedule, with the addition of calmag+(2-0-0) @ 50% strength
Day 29 12/24 from sprout and day one of flower (I guess)
Pineapple express (PE) 2 1/4 inches tall, very bushy, no white hairs. Gorilla Glue (GG) is just at 3 inches very bushy No white hairs. Chocolope (CH) is 3 inches tall No white hairs.
The Northern Lights X Blueberry Auto (NB) is 6 inches. Lots of white hairs.
Day 30 12/25/20 Week 5,
PE & NB both grew a little over .5" PE also got her first white hairs.
Plain water ½ gallon. I forgot to check the PPM so I checked the runoff and it was 2700ppm
I did nothing to address the high number at this point.
Day 34 12/29
Gorilla Glue is looking really rough. I thought she might have been a boy so she was handled a lot for a few days while I was searching for balls.
Day 35 12/30
since the plants were finally big enough to soak the pots fully. I also decided since they had used 1/2 gallon water in 3 days and they grew a ton I upped the nutrients to full strength and the calmag plus as well. This was the first time I had any runoff. I let the plants sit in the runoff and reabsorbed all the runoff. I didn’t realize the trouble with reabsorbing all those nutrients I flushed out since it was the first time for run off ever.
Day 36 12/31/20
The Northern Light X Blueberry auto is very dark green and has sharp downturned tips.
I decided that it was Nitrogen toxicity caused by underwatering.
I was not tracking when I feed them, just whenever the pots were light. I watered them I later realized that while it may have started with underwatering it was so many other problems at once. I have no idea how dry "dry" is.
Day 37 1/2/21
Flushed each plant with with 5 gallons of tap water that had a PH of 6.4 & water temp was 62 degrees. My run off started at 4300ppm with a ph of 6.2. The PH was consistent in every plants runoff and all of them had off the chart PPMs. I brought NB down to 250ppm. Gorilla Glue and Pineapple express I brought the runoff down to 450. I decided that since my plants were probably in shock from no water and nutrients to more water and a whole lot of nutrients and I figured flushing them would reset the soil and I reasoned they would need food after not getting any from being in shock so I gave them each a half strength nutrients I gave week 1 of flower nutrients from the Foxfarm feeding schedule at 1/2 strength. I did not use Calmag+ since it's nitrogen was 2 and I didn't add the boomerang because that has nitrogen as a 1 and I thought since 1 plant has nitrogen toxicity I should skip the extra 3 nitrogen for now on all the plants.
Day 42 1/6
almost no growth since the flush. NB started off at a little over 9 inches and if I stretch her she is 10 at most.
Day 45 1/9
plain water and runoff for Gorilla Glue was 584ppm with a ph of 6.47 , NB 750ppm and 6.38ph PE had 1170ppm runoff so I ran a less less than an extra half gallon of water and that brought the ppm down to 706. PH was 6.3.Chocolope is starting to show the same signs as the others they are just all in different phases of whatever I did to almost kill them.
Day 46 1/10
PE Length 7', Width 8.5", Dry weight 6lb 4oz, Wet weight 13lb 11oz
GG Length 8", Width 8.5", Dry weight 5lb 14 oz-, Wet weight 11lb
NB Length 11" Width 10.5" Dry weight 6lb 9 oz Wet weight 12lb
I was having trouble with temp and humidity so I changed the light cycle so that my "night time" is in the middle of the day for heating reason, so this morning when I woke up, after being under the lights for 18 hours I actually had growth on two plants. Gorilla Glue and my photo plant Chocolope that is growing with the autos. They were both under the VIPARSPECTRA 2020 Pro Series P1000 LED Grow Light. The other two plants were under BLOOMSPECT Double Chips Series 1500W LED Grow Light Full Spectrum.
DAY 47 1/11/21
Gorilla Glue turned real dark green after watering her on 1/9, she had a small amount of growth Sunday but now all the leaves are laying down. I weighed her and she was 4 pounds lighter than when I watered her on Saturday and still 2+ pounds lighter than when she is the driest so I gave her 1/4 gallon water.
DAY 50 1/14
Plain water
Day 54 1/18
Full strength fox farm nutrients again with cal mag
Day 56 1/20 Water, Fox Farm calmag & Foxfarm kiss foliar spray
Day 60 1/24 Flush with foxfarm sledgehammer then watered w/ Foxfarm Trio Nutrients & Calmag full strength
Day 64 1/28 Foxfarm kiss foliar spray.
Day 66 1/30 1 gallon water each with Foxfarm Trio with Bembee & calmag
Today they all look worse.
18/6 lights correct distance
75-85 Temps
40-60% humidity
Good air flow
Fox farm dirty dozen but couldn''t get that dialed in so just using big 3 and calmag currently. Still dying.
This is a link to my grow diary for general specs or if your curious to see how someone could mess up their grow so completely. lol https://growdiaries.com/diaries/87550-grow-journal-by-meaniepants I have not updated weeks 8-10 with any info except a photo.
Some background on how I tried to kill my plants...
I started this grow by watching a zillion videos with my key takeaway being
1-don't over water
2- don't transplant autos
3- don't feed full strength.
I took it seriously, so my tiny little sprouts were put into 3 gallon pots of Fox Farm happy frog potting soil. (didn't realize this already had enough nutrients to last several weeks so I started nutrients in the 2nd week of Veg) I use Fox farm nutrients and follow their soil feeding schedule. I bought the Dirty Dozen starter kits and it did not have 2 products in that the feeding schedule but since they were not in the kit I assumed they must not be too important. They were.... Wholly Mackerel N 0.12% K 0.43% & kelp me kelp you N 0.69% P 0.44% I used a turkey baster to slowly drip a couple ounces of water around each plant I water for the first month. I didn't realize by watering like this for a month that I was making the nutrients build up just below the the root line each watering. I waited to water till the plants were very dry. Now looking back Way way to dry before watering. I think that is why they were not growing. I was only giving them enough to stay alive not thrive.
Here is a break down of what I did when....
Day 14 12/9
plain water
Day 23 12/18
1/4 gallon each with week 2 schedule, with the addition of calmag+(2-0-0) @ 50% strength
Day 27 12/22
1/4 gallon each with week 2 schedule, with the addition of calmag+(2-0-0) @ 50% strength
Day 29 12/24 from sprout and day one of flower (I guess)
Pineapple express (PE) 2 1/4 inches tall, very bushy, no white hairs. Gorilla Glue (GG) is just at 3 inches very bushy No white hairs. Chocolope (CH) is 3 inches tall No white hairs.
The Northern Lights X Blueberry Auto (NB) is 6 inches. Lots of white hairs.
Day 30 12/25/20 Week 5,
PE & NB both grew a little over .5" PE also got her first white hairs.
Plain water ½ gallon. I forgot to check the PPM so I checked the runoff and it was 2700ppm
I did nothing to address the high number at this point.
Day 34 12/29
Gorilla Glue is looking really rough. I thought she might have been a boy so she was handled a lot for a few days while I was searching for balls.
Day 35 12/30
since the plants were finally big enough to soak the pots fully. I also decided since they had used 1/2 gallon water in 3 days and they grew a ton I upped the nutrients to full strength and the calmag plus as well. This was the first time I had any runoff. I let the plants sit in the runoff and reabsorbed all the runoff. I didn’t realize the trouble with reabsorbing all those nutrients I flushed out since it was the first time for run off ever.
Day 36 12/31/20
The Northern Light X Blueberry auto is very dark green and has sharp downturned tips.
I decided that it was Nitrogen toxicity caused by underwatering.
I was not tracking when I feed them, just whenever the pots were light. I watered them I later realized that while it may have started with underwatering it was so many other problems at once. I have no idea how dry "dry" is.
Day 37 1/2/21
Flushed each plant with with 5 gallons of tap water that had a PH of 6.4 & water temp was 62 degrees. My run off started at 4300ppm with a ph of 6.2. The PH was consistent in every plants runoff and all of them had off the chart PPMs. I brought NB down to 250ppm. Gorilla Glue and Pineapple express I brought the runoff down to 450. I decided that since my plants were probably in shock from no water and nutrients to more water and a whole lot of nutrients and I figured flushing them would reset the soil and I reasoned they would need food after not getting any from being in shock so I gave them each a half strength nutrients I gave week 1 of flower nutrients from the Foxfarm feeding schedule at 1/2 strength. I did not use Calmag+ since it's nitrogen was 2 and I didn't add the boomerang because that has nitrogen as a 1 and I thought since 1 plant has nitrogen toxicity I should skip the extra 3 nitrogen for now on all the plants.
Day 42 1/6
almost no growth since the flush. NB started off at a little over 9 inches and if I stretch her she is 10 at most.
Day 45 1/9
plain water and runoff for Gorilla Glue was 584ppm with a ph of 6.47 , NB 750ppm and 6.38ph PE had 1170ppm runoff so I ran a less less than an extra half gallon of water and that brought the ppm down to 706. PH was 6.3.Chocolope is starting to show the same signs as the others they are just all in different phases of whatever I did to almost kill them.
Day 46 1/10
PE Length 7', Width 8.5", Dry weight 6lb 4oz, Wet weight 13lb 11oz
GG Length 8", Width 8.5", Dry weight 5lb 14 oz-, Wet weight 11lb
NB Length 11" Width 10.5" Dry weight 6lb 9 oz Wet weight 12lb
I was having trouble with temp and humidity so I changed the light cycle so that my "night time" is in the middle of the day for heating reason, so this morning when I woke up, after being under the lights for 18 hours I actually had growth on two plants. Gorilla Glue and my photo plant Chocolope that is growing with the autos. They were both under the VIPARSPECTRA 2020 Pro Series P1000 LED Grow Light. The other two plants were under BLOOMSPECT Double Chips Series 1500W LED Grow Light Full Spectrum.
DAY 47 1/11/21
Gorilla Glue turned real dark green after watering her on 1/9, she had a small amount of growth Sunday but now all the leaves are laying down. I weighed her and she was 4 pounds lighter than when I watered her on Saturday and still 2+ pounds lighter than when she is the driest so I gave her 1/4 gallon water.
DAY 50 1/14
Plain water
Day 54 1/18
Full strength fox farm nutrients again with cal mag
Day 56 1/20 Water, Fox Farm calmag & Foxfarm kiss foliar spray
Day 60 1/24 Flush with foxfarm sledgehammer then watered w/ Foxfarm Trio Nutrients & Calmag full strength
Day 64 1/28 Foxfarm kiss foliar spray.
Day 66 1/30 1 gallon water each with Foxfarm Trio with Bembee & calmag
Today they all look worse.
18/6 lights correct distance
75-85 Temps
40-60% humidity
Good air flow
Fox farm dirty dozen but couldn''t get that dialed in so just using big 3 and calmag currently. Still dying.