How low is too low? Indica's and the SCRoG Limbo

[GreatWhiteBud]

How low can you go?

The rule of the road for Indica SCRoG setups is no higher than 8" above the medium, but how much lower can you go?

Would 6" do better at allowing all the lowest of the branches to be woven into the screen, and if so what would the negative effects be?

Also would topping at 2 weeks rather than 3 or 4 promote fewer branches from the main stem and therefore produce more branching higher up towards the screen?

 

[growsince79]

Who's the dumb fucker who made that rule? How do you water under the 8" trellis? Why even scrog a short indica; whats the point?

 

[GreatWhiteBud]

Who's the dumb fucker who made that rule? How do you water under the 8" trellis? Why even scrog a short indica; whats the point?

No one made a rule lol, a watering can works well, and theoretically there should be an increase in yield regardless.

 

[growsince79]

No one made a rule lol, a watering can works well, and theoretically there should be an increase in yield regardless.

How many grams/sqft do you get with indica in a 8" scrog vs indica in no scrog? Pics? Where do I find this low profile water can? Pics?

 

[GreatWhiteBud]

Its called an experiment, nothing ventured nothing gained.

 

[growsince79]

Its called an experiment, nothing ventured nothing gained.

I like to experiment too. Not trying to increase yield though. I just grow for quality nowadays. I want short plants that don't need a scrog. I'm into easy; I only scrog if I have to.

 

[GreatWhiteBud]

How many grams/sqft do you get with indica in a 8" scrog vs indica in no scrog? Pics? Where do I find this low profile water can? Pics?

That's good question and one I am currently working to answer, I want to set a baseline of yield with my current strain using a SCRoG grow.

I have cloned my plants x2 and have the babys in a veg chamber until harvest and I can start a new crop, the highest yeild plant will be the clone mother for my next screen grow and the remaining clones with the exception of the future mom wil get planted and grow un-molested.

At that point I will be able to determine the difference in yeild.

Pic1: 1L "watering can"

Pic2: Blueberry OG, week 2 flower

 

[growsince79]

That's good question and one I am currently working to answer, I want to set a baseline of yield with my current strain using a SCRoG grow.

I have cloned my plants x2 and have the babys in a veg chamber until harvest and I can start a new crop, the highest yeild plant will be the clone mother for my next screen grow and the remaining clones with the exception of the future mom wil get planted and grow un-molested.

At that point I will be able to determine the difference in yeild.

Pic1: 1L "watering can"

Pic2: Blueberry OG, week 2 flower

Man that looks like a pain in the ass way to water.

 

[Kevuk]

I have a low scrog net.

I wouldn’t consider it without drippers.

 

[GreatWhiteBud]

I use a top dressing with dry nutrient powder so I'm already down there turning the soil on a regular basis, and with a tent you can sneak a hand in around the side or back of the screen and water too.

Ass pain yes, but it seems to be working so far.

 

[growsince79]

I use a top dressing with dry nutrient powder so I'm already down there turning the soil on a regular basis, and with a tent you can sneak a hand in around the side or back of the screen and water too.

Ass pain yes, but it seems to be working so far.

I looks like you are gonna have plenty of vertical space left over. In fact, it doesn't look like the scrog is even doing much.

 

[MyGrowYo]

I did something similar on my first grow and it just made me angry haha I water with a sprayer and even with the wand I would get it caught up on branches.

 

[GreatWhiteBud]

It takes 10,000 hours to master something, I'm all about progress not perfection, the next grow is going to amped up in complexity.

 

[Kevuk]

Looks like a trellis rather than a scrog.

 

[GreatWhiteBud]

I looks like you are gonna have plenty of vertical space left over. In fact, it doesn't look like the scrog is even doing much.

I didn't think so either, that's why I wanted some opinions on whether its worth dropping the screen lower to try and be more efficient at forcing horizontal growth in order to maximize total square footage of the canopy at flower.

Watering is an after thought, creativity solves that problem.

 

[GreatWhiteBud]

I didn't think so either, that's why I wanted some opinions on whether its worth dropping the screen lower to try and be more efficient at forcing horizontal growth in order to maximize total square footage of the canopy at flower.

Watering is an after thought, creativity solves that problem.

Plan is also to start doing multiple layers of growth simultaneously in the same tent using shelving.

 

[GreatWhiteBud]

Looks like a trellis rather than a scrog.

Scrog Vs. Trellis what's the difference?

So I realized the difference between a Scrog and a trellis. It's how long you let your plants grow before flipping to 12/12. If you flip too late, you will run out of horizontal space and what you intended to be a scrog is now a trellis. Happened to me on my first try. Next run I will flip...

www.thcfarmer.com

good post about this topic.

 

[Anthem]

Plan is also to start doing multiple layers of growth simultaneously in the same tent using shelving.

Complete and total waste of time, money and effort but please carry on with the stupidness. Someday a light will go on and you will realize your experiment is a waste of time, money and effort.

 

[growsince79]

I didn't think so either, that's why I wanted some opinions on whether its worth dropping the screen lower to try and be more efficient at forcing horizontal growth in order to maximize total square footage of the canopy at flower.

Watering is an after thought, creativity solves that problem.

If you have an 8' ceiling, it might be possible to have two layers. You could use the bottom 2' for a mother and clones and the top for production. Growing 2 layers from seed would be tough and less productive.

 

[GreatWhiteBud]

Complete and total waste of time, money and effort but please carry on with the stupidness. Someday a light will go on and you will realize your experiment is a waste of time, money and effort.

Good thing its my time not your time