Kuwl - Rollin' Along

[PipeCarver]

My plugs were bout an inch thick so thought I would cut them in half
as I was taking the plant out I seen it had the beginings of roots right there
where the plug was covering the staulk.
The part below that was ugly and looked rotten so pinched it off and lowered
plant and maybe they will take root now.

This one not so much but looks like it is begining.
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This one has short roots but they there.
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You got roots...It's alive...lol.....that's a win..................... all I need is 1 clone to survive out of my cuttings to keep the strain alive.... 1 out of 10 could be done by a blindfolded monkey just sticking it in the dirt ..... I don't know whats going on....I used to be a star...lol... Now with my new DIY bubbler 2 out of 10 will be a win..

 

[kuwl]

Had a Ah Ha moment
Checked BD-GL Gal. pots last night and they were dry, very dry.
I fed them 2 days prior to that and wondered why a veg could feed
the pot dry in just 2 days. I thought it must be the dry atmoshere in the tent.
@ 33-36% even with the steamer going, that might be the culpret drying out the pots
faster than plants can use it and I figured it was leaving lots of left over nuites still in the soil.
So I checked everything before feeding.
I ran a half gal PH 6.5 water thru them and PH in run off was 7, PPM was 280
I had that low PPM last time I checked also. I figure it must be feeding well then.
Everything seemed ok, fed them @ PPM 600 with Foilage Pro and Pro Tekt 1tsp ea.
I ph'ed the water at 6.5 and also fed the bushy seedling 400 PPM FP-PT all other plants
did not need fed.
I was a lil bit high last night when I thought of this "problem" (Paranoia, lol)
but I am glad I did, putting in the extra work to find out was worth it. can't get detailed enough I guess.

 

[PipeCarver]

Had a Ah Ha moment
Checked BD-GL Gal. pots last night and they were dry, very dry.
I fed them 2 days prior to that and wondered why a veg could feed
the pot dry in just 2 days. I thought it must be the dry atmoshere in the tent.
@ 33-36% even with the steamer going, that might be the culpret drying out the pots
faster than plants can use it and I figured it was leaving lots of left over nuites still in the soil.
So I checked everything before feeding.
I ran a half gal PH 6.5 water thru them and PH in run off was 7, PPM was 280
I had that low PPM last time I checked also. I figure it must be feeding well then.
Everything seemed ok, fed them @ PPM 600 with Foilage Pro and Pro Tekt 1tsp ea.
I ph'ed the water at 6.5 and also fed the bushy seedling 400 PPM FP-PT all other plants
did not need fed.
I was a lil bit high last night when I thought of this "problem" (Paranoia, lol)
but I am glad I did, putting in the extra work to find out was worth it. can't get detailed enough I guess.

I've not used Foilage pro or Pro tekt, I've never used anything but the General Hydro 3 part + Kool Bloom in Flower.. I don't ph my water before I feed only afterwards and it gives me the info for my next water / feed . If I get a reading of say 6.00 I'll know I'm low so on my next feed I'll add 3-4ml ph up and read it the ph again...if I'm up say to 6.1 I'll do the same regiment with 3 - 4ml ml up next time . If the reading is still low or lower...5.9.....5.8 then I'll add Dolomite lime ( I bought the small pack of lime $3.98 for about 25 lbs I have enough for 100 life times of growing) to the top and continue with the same 3-4ml up on feeds.....that gets me back into the mid 6's where I like to stay anywhere from 6.3 - 6.7...I'm happy.....the nute's always bring down my ph and my well water is 7.2

I've never had a high ph issue...I thought when I was getting into this I needed to ph my water to 6.5 on each water / feed but that made my ph in the soil to get way too low from accumulating. I was down to 4.7 when I figured it all out....it doesn't matter what goes in ( to a point) but it matters what comes out. when I run my 7.2 well water through the dirt I use I get 6.5....no need for ph down after I add the nutes I know the ph is low so I add the up, I normally use 1-2 ml up each feed....... and if I keep taking the readings and watching it I can keep it in the mid 6's.

 

[kuwl]

I've not used Foilage pro or Pro tekt, I've never used anything but the General Hydro 3 part + Kool Bloom in Flower.. I don't ph my water before I feed only afterwards and it gives me the info for my next water / feed . If I get a reading of say 6.00 I'll know I'm low so on my next feed I'll add 3-4ml ph up and read it the ph again...if I'm up say to 6.1 I'll do the same regiment with 3 - 4ml ml up next time . If the reading is still low or lower...5.9.....5.8 then I'll add Dolomite lime ( I bought the small pack of lime $3.98 for about 25 lbs I have enough for 100 life times of growing) to the top and continue with the same 3-4ml up on feeds.....that gets me back into the mid 6's where I like to stay anywhere from 6.3 - 6.7...I'm happy.....the nute's always bring down my ph and my well water is 7.2

I've never had a high ph issue...I thought when I was getting into this I needed to ph my water to 6.5 on each water / feed but that made my ph in the soil to get way too low from accumulating. I was down to 4.7 when I figured it all out....it doesn't matter what goes in ( to a point) but it matters what comes out. when I run my 7.2 well water through the dirt I use I get 6.5....no need for ph down after I add the nutes I know the ph is low so I add the up, I normally use 1-2 ml up each feed....... and if I keep taking the readings and watching it I can keep it in the mid 6's.

My tap water is 7 and my last run off PH was 7 even tho I PH down to 6.5 also if I use the Auto Pot method, it says to PH it to 5.6
cause of the system using clay balls at the bottom of the pot and the type of coco coir/soil mix and also it's a ottom feeder.
So much time has gone by since I purchased this system I will have to re-read the instructions and watch some more vids to refresh my memory lol

I did not pay much attention to PH on the last run and the plants seemed fine, nothing to do with the seed problem I had.

 

[kuwl]

Damm. Wifey brought me a humidifier. it's a evaporater type.
I figured if it works better than my giant size vornado, then great!
It does have a smaller footprint, that's a plus.
It would only get the hummy to 35% by itself soooo
I put the steamer in there with it and hoped it would not pop a breaker.
With both on their highest lvl it worked and no fuse or breaker popped!!
My hummy in tent is now 42% temp is on high also, but gets to 80-81°
and the new hummy's fan adds for extra air circulation also a 2 gal tank which is top fill.

Bubbler is doing fine nicer roots on the one plant.
I pluged everything into the timer so they gettin a break at night.
I am going to take the one with roots and put it in a rooter plug I have laying around.
Then into a solo with some dirt. Good to know I can do this when I
get a good plant I want to keep going with. I did throw in a glop of Clone X
to see if it helps. Will check on it tomorrow and if it's good to go, will put it in the rooter plug

She got this thing to, takes out the minerals in the water $8 at Walmart.

 

[Frankster]

My tap water is 7 and my last run off PH was 7 even tho I PH down to 6.5 also if I use the Auto Pot method, it says to PH it to 5.6
cause of the system using clay balls at the bottom of the pot and the type of coco coir/soil mix and also it's a ottom feeder.
So much time has gone by since I purchased this system I will have to re-read the instructions and watch some more vids to refresh my memory lol

I did not pay much attention to PH on the last run and the plants seemed fine, nothing to do with the seed problem I had.

What's your ppm on your starting water?

 

[Frankster]

Damm. Wifey brought me a humidifier. it's a evaporater type.
I figured if it works better than my giant size vornado, then great!
It does have a smaller footprint, that's a plus.
It would only get the hummy to 35% by itself soooo
I put the steamer in there with it and hoped it would not pop a breaker.
With both on their highest lvl it worked and no fuse or breaker popped!!
My hummy in tent is now 42% temp is on high also, but gets to 80-81°
and the new hummy's fan adds for extra air circulation also a 2 gal tank which is top fill.

Bubbler is doing fine nicer roots on the one plant.
I pluged everything into the timer so they gettin a break at night.
I am going to take the one with roots and put it in a rooter plug I have laying around.
Then into a solo with some dirt. Good to know I can do this when I
get a good plant I want to keep going with. I did throw in a glop of Clone X
to see if it helps. Will check on it tomorrow and if it's good to go, will put it in the rooter plug

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She got this thing to, takes out the minerals in the water $8 at Walmart.
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Just make sure your not daisy chaining power strips into the same outlet; cause that's a huge no no; and can burn out your wall wires or start a fire. Hopefully you've got some of that spread out to different breaker fuse; correct?

Or simply do the math... It's not all that difficult; and a hell of a lot safer. Plug 120v into your volts; and then simply add in your watts or amps; the calculator will fill in the rest (ohms law) then get out a calculator; and tally up your amps...

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Calculate watts, volts, amps & ohms, fill in any 2 fields and the rest will be converted.

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I would watch how much humidity your throwing around in there with all that electronics; especially that meanwell driver; and the LEDs
Plants sure look healthy and happy in there. Good short internodes.

 

[sambapati]

Hey, way too wet for the seeds. imho.....that towel should have been wrung out before you put seeds on it & another wrung out towel on top....no need for all that water. I've been using spring water for the soak and wrung out paper towels in small sealed plastic containers..I was putting them on my aquarium 30c - 86f and within 24 hrs they are all popping. The mat I bought got a bit warm so I put the containers on a plate to insulate it a bit...work 100% this time......this pic is after 24hrs...the containers are damp inside but no extra waterView attachment 1204341

Gibberellic acid (also called gibberellin A3, GA, and GA3) is a hormone found in plants and fungi. ... GA stimulates the cells of germinating seeds to produce mRNA molecules that code for hydrolytic enzymes. Gibberellic acid is a very potent hormone whose natural occurrence in plants controls their development.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbe...ells of,in plants controls their development.

Gibberellic acid - has helped me with seeds (Thai) that seemed like they would never germinate. I was running out of patience and options but read up on gibbberellic acid and put in two drops into the moist (never wet) brown coffee filter (never towels and never white) I also put in one shake of the root stimulant white powder in the filter. Also make sure that they are in darkness. Hope this helps it did work for me​

 

[sambapati]

Ya my tap / well water is 7.2 but one seeds company I used a couple of years ago said they would only guarantee germination if I used Spring water..So I bought a gallon at Walmart $0.99, my cats don't like it and I still have it. lol ....I just bought a cheap 4 part RO system..one recommended by the famed aquaman on one of his posts. I like the idea of using it through the last 7 - 10 days for water only...It really brings the color out by them using their store nute's and I need it for my humidifiers....this is a pic I just took of my look out my smoking room ( old unused no fixtures bathroom / closet ) window and the spoiled animals that use it

Cats watching TV on the internet while stoned and reading stoner threads -- doesn't get much better than that

 

[sambapati]

Hey, I think the pots need air I don't think the towels will do it any favors. Have you seen those air pots?View attachment 1207587The idea of these is that the roots grow out see light and they air trim themselves...the idea being like topping it shoots new roots out building its root base.....So I think more holes is good banked bad...lol.....

I read somewhere vegging plants can't use more than 25,000 lux in veg...but that was years ago, not sure with the new led's....I know I cooked my leaves last grow at 53,000 lux....I only get 37,000 - 39,000 lux off my 1000w hps...I got the dimmer on my light working and I have it at 39,000 3-4 weeks in flower..I'm not going to go above this on this run...I may move it up as I learn it but I'll stay with the numbers I know for now

I have a friend on here that keeps Mom's in 1 gallon containers and he takes his cuttings off them...He said they stunt themselves but it doesn't fk with the clones????......I don't know it may help with your congestion problem keeping them smaller pots until you have space. ...I do the same thing though everything is fine until they get transplanted up and then wtf no more room...lol

Yes those air pots seem to work well, but they are pretty expensive. A plastic laundry basket would be cheaper, and in my outdoor grow that particular (plant pot) is growing a nice looking plant and I think the biggest one. I have 2 5 gallon ones in black and both in use for my current grow -- I put 1 layer of coconut husks and chips in the bottom before adding any soil. The root balls I took out really looked super healthy, except the one that was eaten my ants -- but that was my poor maintenance. I put a plastic bin underneath as they're 3 years of age.

 

[PipeCarver]

Damm. Wifey brought me a humidifier. it's a evaporater type.
I figured if it works better than my giant size vornado, then great!
It does have a smaller footprint, that's a plus.
It would only get the hummy to 35% by itself soooo
I put the steamer in there with it and hoped it would not pop a breaker.
With both on their highest lvl it worked and no fuse or breaker popped!!
My hummy in tent is now 42% temp is on high also, but gets to 80-81°
and the new hummy's fan adds for extra air circulation also a 2 gal tank which is top fill.

Bubbler is doing fine nicer roots on the one plant.
I pluged everything into the timer so they gettin a break at night.
I am going to take the one with roots and put it in a rooter plug I have laying around.
Then into a solo with some dirt. Good to know I can do this when I
get a good plant I want to keep going with. I did throw in a glop of Clone X
to see if it helps. Will check on it tomorrow and if it's good to go, will put it in the rooter plug

View attachment 1211607

She got this thing to, takes out the minerals in the water $8 at Walmart.
View attachment 1211608

You are turning your bubbler off at night? and just let the roots hang in the water? I was under the impression that we want the roots hanging in the zone of bubbles and if i shut it off it they'll be mostly in air....that can't be good to let them dry out? just asking we're at the same point in the curve i think....Have you read something on that?

Nice having a loving wife eh? Where would we be without?

 

[kuwl]

What's your ppm on your starting water?

I checked this morning Tap water is 140 PPM usually it's 121

 

[kuwl]

You are turning your bubbler off at night? and just let the roots hang in the water? I was under the impression that we want the roots hanging in the zone of bubbles and if i shut it off it they'll be mostly in air....that can't be good to let them dry out? just asking we're at the same point in the curve i think....Have you read something on that?

Nice having a loving wife eh? Where would we be without?

Someone mentioned in this thread to let them rest might help, I set timer off for 6hrs at night.
My roots are hanging just above the water not in it, the bubbles splash keeps em wet.
I have no idea if this works but am checking it out now. brb

I also put domes on the 2 survivors.
But as you can see they doing well, busy today but tomorrow I might stick em in rapid rooters.
The one that had lil nubs is looking better also.
Pic's

 

[PipeCarver]

Someone mentioned in this thread to let them rest might help, I set timer off for 6hrs at night.
My roots are hanging just above the water not in it, the bubbles splash keeps em wet.
I have no idea if this works but am checking it out now. brb

I also put domes on the 2 survivors.
But as you can see they doing well, busy today but tomorrow I might stick em in rapid rooters.
The one that had lil nubs is looking better also.
Pic's

That's a win...you got roots...I don't know about the rapid rooters I've fked up using them I'll go into solo cups with my promix...I have some of the peat plugs here somewhere I might give 1 or 2 a try. I'm going to try with my dome over the whole thing and the seedling mat under it all...I'll have to leave an air space to insulate it'll be too warm otherwise....I'm looking at water being 68- 70- 72f...

I ordered some of the Clonex....expensive sht $50 cdn 125ml small bottle...The last stuff I got cost me $10 its a rooting gel wtf the diff is I don't know but they better grow monsters fast using this name brand stuff. I came into $4 grand recently. Turning 70 this year my retirement stuff needed to be changed around and I ended up cashing out some.Now like a kid with money I've been buying sht I wanted...Need? well.....that's all relative...nothing expensive but all this little $50 -$60 shit eats up the cash pretty quick

 

[kuwl]

That's a win...you got roots...I don't know about the rapid rooters I've fked up using them I'll go into solo cups with my promix...I have some of the peat plugs here somewhere I might give 1 or 2 a try. I'm going to try with my dome over the whole thing and the seedling mat under it all...I'll have to leave an air space to insulate it'll be too warm otherwise....I'm looking at water being 68- 70- 72f...

I ordered some of the Clonex....expensive sht $50 cdn 125ml small bottle...The last stuff I got cost me $10 its a rooting gel wtf the diff is I don't know but they better grow monsters fast using this name brand stuff. I came into $4 grand recently. Turning 70 this year my retirement stuff needed to be changed around and I ended up cashing out some.Now like a kid with money I've been buying sht I wanted...Need? well.....that's all relative...nothing expensive but all this little $50 -$60 shit eats up the cash pretty quick

I got my 100 ml bottle for $19 about a year an a half ago an Amazon lol I had the stimmi $ and went nuts brought it cause
I thought someday yeah someday I will definitly do some cloning and I am an impulse buyer, just can't help myself.
BTW it still is $19 on Amazon!

 

[kuwl]

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Gibberellic acid (also called gibberellin A3, GA, and GA3) is a hormone found in plants and fungi. ... GA stimulates the cells of germinating seeds to produce mRNA molecules that code for hydrolytic enzymes. Gibberellic acid is a very potent hormone whose natural occurrence in plants controls their development.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibberellic_acid#:~:text=Gibberellic acid (also called gibberellin,found in plants and fungi.&text=GA stimulates the cells of,in plants controls their development.

Gibberellic acid - has helped me with seeds (Thai) that seemed like they would never germinate. I was running out of patience and options but read up on gibbberellic acid and put in two drops into the moist (never wet) brown coffee filter (never towels and never white) I also put in one shake of the root stimulant white powder in the filter. Also make sure that they are in darkness. Hope this helps it did work for me​

Thanks man, I will try next time I germ some seeds also will copy this down as I tend to forget everything lol

 

[PipeCarver]

I got my 100 ml bottle for $19 about a year an a half ago an Amazon lol I had the stimmi $ and went nuts brought it cause
I thought someday yeah someday I will definitly do some cloning and I am an impulse buyer, just can't help myself.
BTW it still is $19 on Amazon!

I got my 100 ml bottle for $19 about a year an a half ago an Amazon lol I had the stimmi $ and went nuts brought it cause
I thought someday yeah someday I will definitly do some cloning and I am an impulse buyer, just can't help myself.
BTW it still is $19 on Amazon!

And don't forget the 15% tax....not cheap being a Canuck.

 

[kuwl]

Just make sure your not daisy chaining power strips into the same outlet; cause that's a huge no no; and can burn out your wall wires or start a fire. Hopefully you've got some of that spread out to different breaker fuse; correct?

Or simply do the math... It's not all that difficult; and a hell of a lot safer. Plug 120v into your volts; and then simply add in your watts or amps; the calculator will fill in the rest (ohms law) then get out a calculator; and tally up your amps...

Calculate/Convert Watts, Volts, Amps & Ohms - Electrical Usage Calculator

Calculate watts, volts, amps & ohms, fill in any 2 fields and the rest will be converted.

energyusecalculator.com

Watts/Volts/Amps/Ohms Calculator

Watts (W) / volts (V) / amps (A) / ohms (Ω) calculator.

www.rapidtables.com

I would watch how much humidity your throwing around in there with all that electronics; especially that meanwell driver; and the LEDs
Plants sure look healthy and happy in there. Good short internodes.

Very confusing to me and will try to figure it out but ran the whole system on 2 outlets last grow
with no breaker issues.. The 2 outlets are on 20a breakers, I feel the cords that are plugged in and they are cold.

Most of the house downstairs was rewired with the yellow bigger gauge wires and new outlets when we remodeled.
With 1 6" intake fan, 1 4" exhaust fan, 1 lil 4" table fan, a cool steam hummy, a fan drivin evaporater hummy, Oil heater
on high and a FC4800 MarsHydro light (280w) on 40% power right now.

The light, steamer and evaporater are on one outlet along with a small freezer
The intake and exhaust along with the heater and table fan are on the other outlet.

I could switch one of the fans with one of the hummys and make it more even, I think.
We'll see if I can figure out the draw on each of these outlets might take a while tho lol

 

[Observationist]

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And don't forget the 15% tax....not cheap being a Canuck.

ive tried a few different rooting hormones, so far i think one alternative that is comparable to clonex gel is dyna gro rooting gel and possibly cyclone.

clonex is pretty dominant tho afaik, my 2c

 

[kuwl]

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And don't forget the 15% tax....not cheap being a Canuck.

Living so close to and haveing been there many times I know shit is way more expensive in Canada but
WOWWY We get a lot of Canadian business here lol