Trimming and Drying for FLAVOR?

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Dothraki

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Nothing new, best growers in the world are all doing the same process with minimum variations. No need to re-invent the wheel.
Whole plant hang.
60/60 untill it's ready to get trimmed, then curing in jars/containers.
So a whole plant, which hasn’t been defoliated, and dont remove any leaves? Or are these lollipopped plants with no leaves
left to speak of...or are they removing water leaves, fan leaves? I’d like to know what the benefit of detriment of leaving leaves on would be.
 
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So a whole plant, which hasn’t been defoliated, and dont remove any leaves? Or are these lollipopped plants with no leaves
left to speak of...or are they removing water leaves, fan leaves? I’d like to know what the benefit of detriment of leaving leaves on would be.

Whole plant.
 
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I give 'em a rough trim and dry in the pot. This is functional for me.
Organic soil auto grower.
I am so impressed that you didn't go with the idiot herd mentality and completely close up your "grow tent" lmao. And, then purchase needless fans, ect.
 
freezeland2

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That’s crazy. Sounds like you’re working with a lot worse conditions than myself but ya know that extra time and work you put in sounds like it payed off so keep fighting the good fight!


I think for some of us the idea is to bring out the higher quality end result in the buds like flavors and aromas, smoothness etc. so easy can lead to crap results.... but it’s all about what your priority is. Mine is the highest quality, hence discussing methods to increase the quality...not make it easier.
I don’t get crap results.
 
growsince79

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That’s crazy. Sounds like you’re working with a lot worse conditions than myself but ya know that extra time and work you put in sounds like it payed off so keep fighting the good fight!


I think for some of us the idea is to bring out the higher quality end result in the buds like flavors and aromas, smoothness etc. so easy can lead to crap results.... but it’s all about what your priority is. Mine is the highest quality, hence discussing methods to increase the quality...not make it easier.

I don’t get crap results.
I never had good bud be not good because of the dry and cure. If it taste like shit, the best cure won't help much. If its good - its good.
 
royfree2grow

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I never had good bud be not good because of the dry and cure. If it taste like shit, the best cure won't help much. If its good - its good.
That's true, but it ain't the question. There's no doubt that the initial quality is the most significant factor, but which process can get it to it's maximum potential is definitely related to post harvest procedures.
 
Dothraki

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I don’t get crap results.
I’m glad you don’t...but in general most people I know that take the easy route end up with crap, when compared to what it could have been. But I wasn’t saying that you get crap results...obviously I would have no idea what your end result is.
 
Dothraki

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I never had good bud be not good because of the dry and cure. If it taste like shit, the best cure won't help much. If its good - its good.
Really? I’ve read It has to do with the conversion rate which stops when a bud dries out, so needs time for the process to happen slowly to retain higher levels of terpenes. We’ve all had the stuff that smells like hay due to a fast dry.
 
Dothraki

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Whatever it takes to get a slow dry works. Bagging/jarring too early/wet is what gives you absolute shit. This assumes your grow went well and strain is proper.
Good to know about jarring early.
 
growsince79

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Really? I’ve read It has to do with the conversion rate which stops when a bud dries out, so needs time for the process to happen slowly to retain higher levels of terpenes. We’ve all had the stuff that smells like hay due to a fast dry.
Slow drying is always gonna taste better than quick dry. But if your bud tastes like shit because it only dried 4-5 days- its shitty weed imo. Truely great stuff tastes great straight off the plant and only gets better with a slower dry.
 
FuriousStyles

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Got to let your herb dry till the stems snap like a twig. Sounds weird, but find a dead tree limb off the ground and bend till it breaks, with a crack. Your herb stem should be the same way.
Its then ready to jar. Leaf on, leaf off during drying doesn't matter as much that, that one simple thing of a stem snapping will.
 
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Got to let your herb dry till the stems snap like a twig. Sounds weird, but find a dead tree limb off the ground and bend till it breaks, with a crack. Your herb stem should be the same way.
Its then ready to jar. Leaf on, leaf off during drying doesn't matter as much that, that one simple thing of a stem snapping will.
Yes. If you need tools to trim- its too soon in most cases. Buds should break off the stems. Sugar leaves should break off buds. Once you learn this method, its ten times faster than wet trim and better product. As well as slowing drying time, leaving the leaves on also seems to helps the bud tighten up.
 
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Yes. If you need tools to trim- its too soon in most cases. Buds should break off the stems. Sugar leaves should break off buds. Once you learn this method, its ten times faster than wet trim and better product. As well as slowing drying time, leaving the leaves on also seems to helps the bud tighten up.
I learned this by mistake while getting lazy during a trim session. I just started breaking the sugar leaves off with the tips of my pruning scissors. Heck of a lot easier.
 
Dothraki

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Got to let your herb dry till the stems snap like a twig. Sounds weird, but find a dead tree limb off the ground and bend till it breaks, with a crack. Your herb stem should be the same way.
Its then ready to jar. Leaf on, leaf off during drying doesn't matter as much that, that one simple thing of a stem snapping will.
Yes. If you need tools to trim- its too soon in most cases. Buds should break off the stems. Sugar leaves should break off buds. Once you learn this method, its ten times faster than wet trim and better product. As well as slowing drying time, leaving the leaves on also seems to helps the bud tighten up.
Cool thanks guys. I’ve always wondered if that was over dry. Sometimes tiny stems don’t seem to ever snap because they are so close to the moisture source and rehydrate quickly. Would you test the main branches for snaps or the tiny twigs connected to the buds?
 
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Cool thanks guys. I’ve always wondered if that was over dry. Sometimes tiny stems don’t seem to ever snap because they are so close to the moisture source and rehydrate quickly. Would you test the main branches for snaps or the tiny twigs connected to the buds?
Its the easiest/hardest thing to explain because we can be saying the same thing and meaning two completely different concepts.
I do not know your background, and not trying to dig and find out, point being if all you have lived in is a big city and that's all you know, you may or may not understand what breaking a dry tree limb or stick sounds or feels like, if you have its not a hard concept to grasp. Not throwing shade just saying, go outside and grab a dry stick and break it, that's what your stem should do, be it main stalk or side branches.
Maybe think in different terms. The concepts you are talking about with temp and humidity during drying are directly related to businesses or buyers/sellers being able to have shelf life out of their product. Not so much so with a hobby farmer or farmers market business where you constantly have fresh product and quick turn around.
My method is simple. I use bankers boxes (cardboard boxes easy to obtain and cheap). I saw NVclosetmedgrower use that method a few years ago. He has trophies for his cannabis and if he does it that way there must be something to it. Temps are low 70's and humidity is around 40% no special room its just in a box. Takes an easy 2-3 weeks for the product to be dry. That's dry and ready to jar no burping or packets.
Commercial practices are good, but there is a difference between someone wanting to chop a plant and have a great flavorful smoke that does not smell like hay in 2 or 3 weeks and someone wanting the same a year later.
 
freezeland2

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Its the easiest/hardest thing to explain because we can be saying the same thing and meaning two completely different concepts.
I do not know your background, and not trying to dig and find out, point being if all you have lived in is a big city and that's all you know, you may or may not understand what breaking a dry tree limb or stick sounds or feels like, if you have its not a hard concept to grasp. Not throwing shade just saying, go outside and grab a dry stick and break it, that's what your stem should do, be it main stalk or side branches.
Maybe think in different terms. The concepts you are talking about with temp and humidity during drying are directly related to businesses or buyers/sellers being able to have shelf life out of their product. Not so much so with a hobby farmer or farmers market business where you constantly have fresh product and quick turn around.
My method is simple. I use bankers boxes (cardboard boxes easy to obtain and cheap). I saw NVclosetmedgrower use that method a few years ago. He has trophies for his cannabis and if he does it that way there must be something to it. Temps are low 70's and humidity is around 40% no special room its just in a box. Takes an easy 2-3 weeks for the product to be dry. That's dry and ready to jar no burping or packets.
Commercial practices are good, but there is a difference between someone wanting to chop a plant and have a great flavorful smoke that does not smell like hay in 2 or 3 weeks and someone wanting the same a year later.
KISS is hard to argue against. Good post.
 

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