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Just added one teaspoon of great white to each pot. Dug down about 12” deep and sprinkled it all over and then recovered the promix and aerated it. The promix is still moist so I didn’t water it yet.
 
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Just added one teaspoon of great white to each pot. Dug down about 12” deep and sprinkled it all over and then recovered the promix and aerated it. The promix is still moist so I didn’t water it yet.

Just go ahead and use what you have. Monosilicic Acid is expensive stuff. Use up the Silica Blast that you have and you can decide if you want to invest more money in that department when you run out.
 
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I've been using DE for decades. Always mix it in when I make up my grow pots be them soil, coco. organic or syn. It's also great at making grow pots a place bugs don't like.
 
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You are saying don’t use silica blast this grow but use it the next grow?
I would use the product you have. Your plants are small enough you will see the benefit of using it. The challenge is you do not have control over when to stop using it so much. I would probably stop using it early in flower. The reason why I say challenge is because of the secondary process that must occur to make the silica bio available to the plant. Once you stop using it the microbes are going to be processing it for weeks or months and silica does have a ton of benefits but one thing that can be a draw back is rock hard buds. The more you use silica the harder the buds will get.
One of the reason for using Monosilic is it does give you more control over when and how much silica the plant gets. If you take a look at front row ag they are about the cheapest source I have found. The dose is extremely small. .5 mills per gallon. So while some will state is is super expensive, you have to take the amount used each feeding into consideration.
 
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If you take a look at front row ag they are about the cheapest source I have found. The dose is extremely small. .5 mills per gallon. So while some will state is is super expensive, you have to take the amount used each feeding into consideration.

Great recommendation 👍. I'm probably going to get a liter of this. At $80/liter and 0.5ml/gal, the cost is $0.04/gallon. The cost of Power SI was tripping me up and keeping me from giving Monosilicic Acid a real look.

You can still make Potassium Silicate cheaper with Agsil 16H, but like you say Monosilicic Acid is immediately available to the plant.
 
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I would use the product you have. Your plants are small enough you will see the benefit of using it. The challenge is you do not have control over when to stop using it so much. I would probably stop using it early in flower. The reason why I say challenge is because of the secondary process that must occur to make the silica bio available to the plant. Once you stop using it the microbes are going to be processing it for weeks or months and silica does have a ton of benefits but one thing that can be a draw back is rock hard buds. The more you use silica the harder the buds will get.
One of the reason for using Monosilic is it does give you more control over when and how much silica the plant gets. If you take a look at front row ag they are about the cheapest source I have found. The dose is extremely small. .5 mills per gallon. So while some will state is is super expensive, you have to take the amount used each feeding into consideration.
I've never seen these mythical ball bearing hard, rock hard buds. I've been looking for them for decades. I've been using silica forever with DE and liquids and as a foliar spray. I want buds so hard they can chip car paint,,,, Come on silica,,, work for daddy!
 
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I've never seen these mythical ball bearing hard, rock hard buds. I've been looking for them for decades. I've been using silica forever with DE and liquids and as a foliar spray. I want buds so hard they can chip car paint,,,, Come on silica,,, work for daddy!
what is DE?
 
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I would use the product you have. Your plants are small enough you will see the benefit of using it. The challenge is you do not have control over when to stop using it so much. I would probably stop using it early in flower. The reason why I say challenge is because of the secondary process that must occur to make the silica bio available to the plant. Once you stop using it the microbes are going to be processing it for weeks or months and silica does have a ton of benefits but one thing that can be a draw back is rock hard buds. The more you use silica the harder the buds will get.
One of the reason for using Monosilic is it does give you more control over when and how much silica the plant gets. If you take a look at front row ag they are about the cheapest source I have found. The dose is extremely small. .5 mills per gallon. So while some will state is is super expensive, you have to take the amount used each feeding into consideration.

Check this study out:



Academic Research Journal Link on their study method: https://academic.oup.com/jaoac/article/96/2/251/5654910

He notes that The single-laboratory validation of the 5-Day Na2CO3-NH4NO3 Soluble Si Extraction Method has been approved by The Association of American Plant Food Control Officials for testing nonliquid Si fertilizer products.

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I've never seen these mythical ball bearing hard, rock hard buds. I've been looking for them for decades. I've been using silica forever with DE and liquids and as a foliar spray. I want buds so hard they can chip car paint,,,, Come on silica,,, work for daddy!
Silica does make my buds harder. I have only had this happen with 2 brands. Cilicium and Frint Row Ag.
 
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Check this study out:



Academic Research Journal Link on their study method: https://academic.oup.com/jaoac/article/96/2/251/5654910

He notes that The single-laboratory validation of the 5-Day Na2CO3-NH4NO3 Soluble Si Extraction Method has been approved by The Association of American Plant Food Control Officials for testing nonliquid Si fertilizer products.

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If you read All 3 papers you have posted you will find out there is several plays with words going on. In manics first paper he specifically states plants can only uptake Monosilic forms of silica. Than in the potion of the paper you have posted is the percentage of SI. Si is not Monosilic acid H4SiO4. This is what is available to the plant. Your other paper posted has to do with Dry fertilizer forms of silica.
I really do not see your point in all of this. Can you explain.
 
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Great recommendation 👍. I'm probably going to get a liter of this. At $80/liter and 0.5ml/gal, the cost is $0.04/gallon. The cost of Power SI was tripping me up and keeping me from giving Monosilicic Acid a real look.

You can still make Potassium Silicate cheaper with Agsil 16H, but like you say Monosilicic Acid is immediately available to the plant.
You can make Monosilic Acid at home. Go to Billfarthing site and he has the recipe. I think it is called open salts
 
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Great recommendation 👍. I'm probably going to get a liter of this. At $80/liter and 0.5ml/gal, the cost is $0.04/gallon. The cost of Power SI was tripping me up and keeping me from giving Monosilicic Acid a real look.

You can still make Potassium Silicate cheaper with Agsil 16H, but like you say Monosilicic Acid is immediately available to the plant.
While it may be able to make Potassium Silicate for cheaper. Potassium Silicate cannot be direct up taken by the plant. So basically you are trying to compare and apple and a orange. Secondly only a percentage of the potassium Silicate can be turned into Monosilic Acid that tge plant can uptake
 
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So what is the general consensus here? Use my brand of silica or no?
 
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So what is the general consensus here? Use my brand of silica or no?
Use what you have thru early flower and stop about 2 weeks after flip.
Sorry to jack your thread. I think someone has a bone to pick with me
 
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Use what you have thru early flower and stop about 2 weeks after flip.
Sorry to jack your thread. I think someone has a bone to pick with me
No worries on jacking my thread. I’m not one of those bros seeking any kind of attention here. Any new information or debate is much welcomed here.
 
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I've never seen these mythical ball bearing hard, rock hard buds. I've been looking for them for decades. I've been using silica forever with DE and liquids and as a foliar spray. I want buds so hard they can chip car paint,,,, Come on silica,,, work for daddy!
The mono silic acid form does make for some pretty darn hard buds. In my experience if you spring for silicium that stuff have something else in it I believe. It will pass testing but has something else in it besides Monosilic Acid. It is made by the individual who holds the patent rights. The odd thing is Power SI and tge front row ag product are brown and this one is clear
 
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