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Pollinating/seeded for potency discussion

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So back in 2009 when I had my medical card before recreational use was passed, my chronic dealer across the street moved to Atlanta hence why I ended up getting a medical card for my cervical radiculopathy. Chronic Is something everyone claims to be a class of weed, kinda but nah buddy it was a strain that had its own unique smell and very unique high. But porkchop had the real deal. Pure hydro grown, fat christmas tree shaped nugs so crystally and sticky where 1 gram would stink up an entire classroom..everyone always knew it was me lol. One time I bought an eight from him, left it in my car while I went shopping in the mall and on the way out saw 3 cop cars circling the lot where I parked. Immediately after exiting the mall doors, you could smell the 8th from my car about 500 feet away through the wind. My and my sons mother were like "holy shit yeah they're looking for us, shit its so dank we gotta get tf outta here" So because we had a baby stroller and a child we were the least of suspect and they ignored us, it allowed us to get in the car and leave. But we had to wait until the cops got as far from my car as possible then we quickly jumped in and darted back to the house.... Holy fuck weed back then was so loud. After porkchop left, I've had everything across the board. From bubblegum to master kush to bubba kush to hindu kush, the only thing to ever come close was old school golfball size nugs of sticky dense OG kush or old school Grand Daddy Purple Kush.

This was when the hunt began. After trying so many strains for a while I got tired of people selling me the hype..... I only wanted the Chronic high or og kush or gdp. I smoked bubblegum, strawberry cough, Cinderella 99, purple haze, master kush hindu kush bubba kush nothing matched the Chronic or GDP. I found and settled for some that were similar and close but in contrast to Chronic, it was night and day.

Now although I never found the Chronic again, or Original og kush or original gdp, I settled for what was closest. Hindu kush. Bubba kush for the indicas. Blue dream and sour diesel for the sativas. After years of buying from the shop, I always noticed when crops were seeded the shops would sell them cheaper because of customer complaints. Me being a very analytical smoker, I always noticed the seeded batches were chronic like in high. They were much stronger than the same strain from the same shops that werent seeded. once I had the theory in my head I used it everytime to buy batches and it was 100% on the money everytime. Yes! the yield was less but every seeded batch always produced the chronic high! I've never found any science besides my guessing is that seeding a plant is the actual full complete life cycle of the plant and without doing so you're withilding the full cycle of trichome production. I'm not a scientist just a very aware pothead.... until RECENTLY where I found a podcast of someone speaking to Kyle Kushman saying they had spoken to Dj Short breeder of Flow and blueberry and what dj short said confirmed my theory! Dj short said that if you seed a plant, the potency level goes up because that's where the cycle is actually complete. Bullseye! I'm not gonna say I was right or that this is true but from personal experiences, YES ITS TRUE lol.

My question here is does anybody here know of this or notice it when growing your own and smoking a normal harvest vs. a seeded harvest? According to dj short you don't meet to pollinate the entire plant just 1 branch or a spot, and it would be enough to get the plant through the whole cycle of trichome production and the rest of the plants potency would go up. Now that I'm finally growing just saw this segment last night I will do it with my current grow. Going to pollinate a lower branch of 1 plant, and leave the other unpollinated. I can't wait to report back my results and I hope someone has an answer for my questuon or any insight on the topic.

The segment in discussion I found on Instagram through account @natehammer420 it's the 6th video with thumbnail "the breeder"
 
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Bong,

Whenever we start screwing with sex hormones all sorts of things happen. I’m not surprised. Once the flowers on one side branch are pollinated all kinds of changes take place in the entire plant getting ready to make and fill out seeds.

Great idea! There has to be something related in the literature. I’ll take a look.
 
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Bong,

I found this mention of pollination and flower terpene synthesis. Quotes below.

But it may not be related to cannabinoid synthesis. - Once pollinated the flower drops terpene synthesis. It doesn’t need to spend money make aromatic terpenes to attract insects once the flower is pollinated. Makes sense. I keep looking.

“In addition to being spatially and rhythmically regulated, floral scent emission often changes over the lifespan of flowers. Usually, emission levels are highest when flowers are ready for pollination, that is, when anthers are dehisced, and decrease during senescence. Once pollinated, single flowers change or reduce the level of produced volatiles to prevent further visits potentially damaging the flower and to redirect visitors to the remaining unpollinated flowers (Schiestl & Ayasse 2001; Negre et al. 2003; Muhlemann et al. 2006; Rodriguez-Saona et al. 2011). Developmental regulation of scent emission occurs at several levels, including orchestrated expression of scent biosynthetic genes (Colquhoun et al. 2010), enzyme activities (see e.g. Pichersky et al. 1995; Dudareva et al. 2000; Shalit et al. 2003; Boatright et al. 2004; Nagegowda et al. 2008) and substrate availability (Dudareva et al. 2000).”
 
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Zill said:
Here is the full article. Bear in mind, studies not done on cannabis and not tracking cannabinoids. But pollination causes all kinds of changes.


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Yeah I can't confirm from a growers standpoint. But from a smokers standpoint. For nearly 2 decades the theory was true in all my experiences. The seeded batches i purchased were always stronger when I purchased my weed from the shops. Most notobly the purple kush, mars og, sfv og and etc And only occasionally did the non seeded flowers reach the same high as a seeded batch. Typically seed free weed I'd have to smoke nearly a gram to get to the same high as a seeded batch where I only had to smoke a pinch like the size of an eraser on a pencil
 
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That restricted pollination practice could give a commercial a grower a huge advantage.

From what I’ve read, using typical cross pollination it’s tough to get a plant with more than 30% THC. But maybe your technique can break that barrier. Very cool.
 
#7
This is literally a golden goose egg. People typically only release this kind of info in a book they sell or a seminar. The guy who shared this with Kyle kushman said he learned it from a grow class by Dj Short back in 2008.
 
#8
I hope you don’t mind, but I’ve mentioned this to GNick55, capspaulding and cannafarmer420.

Great guys.
 
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bongsmoker421 said:
So back in 2009 when I had my medical card before recreational use was passed, my chronic dealer across the street moved to Atlanta hence why I ended up getting a medical card for my cervical radiculopathy. Chronic Is something everyone claims to be a class of weed, kinda but nah buddy it was a strain that had its own unique smell and very unique high. But porkchop had the real deal. Pure hydro grown, fat christmas tree shaped nugs so crystally and sticky where 1 gram would stink up an entire classroom..everyone always knew it was me lol. One time I bought an eight from him, left it in my car while I went shopping in the mall and on the way out saw 3 cop cars circling the lot where I parked. Immediately after exiting the mall doors, you could smell the 8th from my car about 500 feet away through the wind. My and my sons mother were like "holy shit yeah they're looking for us, shit its so dank we gotta get tf outta here" So because we had a baby stroller and a child we were the least of suspect and they ignored us, it allowed us to get in the car and leave. But we had to wait until the cops got as far from my car as possible then we quickly jumped in and darted back to the house.... Holy fuck weed back then was so loud. After porkchop left, I've had everything across the board. From bubblegum to master kush to bubba kush to hindu kush, the only thing to ever come close was old school golfball size nugs of sticky dense OG kush or old school Grand Daddy Purple Kush.

This was when the hunt began. After trying so many strains for a while I got tired of people selling me the hype..... I only wanted the Chronic high or og kush or gdp. I smoked bubblegum, strawberry cough, Cinderella 99, purple haze, master kush hindu kush bubba kush nothing matched the Chronic or GDP. I found and settled for some that were similar and close but in contrast to Chronic, it was night and day.

Now although I never found the Chronic again, or Original og kush or original gdp, I settled for what was closest. Hindu kush. Bubba kush for the indicas. Blue dream and sour diesel for the sativas. After years of buying from the shop, I always noticed when crops were seeded the shops would sell them cheaper because of customer complaints. Me being a very analytical smoker, I always noticed the seeded batches were chronic like in high. They were much stronger than the same strain from the same shops that werent seeded. once I had the theory in my head I used it everytime to buy batches and it was 100% on the money everytime. Yes! the yield was less but every seeded batch always produced the chronic high! I've never found any science besides my guessing is that seeding a plant is the actual full complete life cycle of the plant and without doing so you're withilding the full cycle of trichome production. I'm not a scientist just a very aware pothead.... until RECENTLY where I found a podcast of someone speaking to Kyle Kushman saying they had spoken to Dj Short breeder of Flow and blueberry and what dj short said confirmed my theory! Dj short said that if you seed a plant, the potency level goes up because that's where the cycle is actually complete. Bullseye! I'm not gonna say I was right or that this is true but from personal experiences, YES ITS TRUE lol.

My question here is does anybody here know of this or notice it when growing your own and smoking a normal harvest vs. a seeded harvest? According to dj short you don't meet to pollinate the entire plant just 1 branch or a spot, and it would be enough to get the plant through the whole cycle of trichome production and the rest of the plants potency would go up. Now that I'm finally growing just saw this segment last night I will do it with my current grow. Going to pollinate a lower branch of 1 plant, and leave the other unpollinated. I can't wait to report back my results and I hope someone has an answer for my questuon or any insight on the topic.

The segment in discussion I found on Instagram through account @natehammer420 it's the 6th video with thumbnail "the breeder"
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Dare I say this might be the real GDP, I'm going to look more into this however I can but I would like to know . It always seems to be the seeds we stumble across or are given that become the most beautiful gems in our garden!🤙🫡. I've obviously done everything in my power to lock down the genetic and so far so good. I plan on becoming more active on this forum soon I think. Hope everyones babies are lookin healthy and happy 😁 God speed growmies!
 

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From another perspective, seeds may prevent nanners. Outdoors i get a couple seeds every year, indoors i get nanners at the end. Cleaning is a nuisance, but its nice to see the beans are fully matured.
 
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