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Anyone else feel like bitch slapping a disp owner in the last week?

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Anyone else feel like bitch slapping a disp owner in the last week?

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yea man that his buddy isnt getting more money, sounds like he is the greedy one
 
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to mrdizzle again.
 
chrometrichs, I concur on your economics. Our scene blew up over night and the supply dwindled under the demand. We have been supplied by a state with over 7 times the populus AND a surplus. We only get the stuff people are desperate to get rid of and it shows in the poor quality. Colorado has intercepted the cali pipeline to the east coast some what and the prices are sure to drop even in cali with more and more states becomming MMJ legit.

A decent populus moved to CO from CA to take advantage of this new market. Who moved? the folks who couldn't compete in CA. Maybe they figured it was a better location as it's more centrally located to deliver their mid grade crap to surrounding states. I know they don't want that shit in texas, people are getting wise to good bud and I like it.

Competition will be based on quality at this point. Why am I biased that I like CO weed better? Because there is no way that cali weed of the caliber that I am talking about would make it out here, there's over 7 times the populus of stoners to supply and they'll smoke all of it before we get to it. We get last years cali outdoor run someone should have turned into hash or extract. I think the stuff that we are getting would be embarrasing to posess in cali. cali guys may not see some of the crap that gets exported and frankly I don't blame you guys one bit.

If you grow top quality dank, there will always be a market for you that's not far from your doorstep. CJ is correct, $50 an eighth since I got here 13yrs ago. That price will hold steady. It's just a CO thing, you don't charge more than $50 an eighth. I don't care if it's a 14 week sativa or a 55 day indica, It's $50 an eighth.

I'm not trying to bash cali, I have a dear friend in mendocino and he does well for himself. I really need to visit northern cali, the only place I've been is so cal and that's weeeeeeeeird. I'll make a road trip to mendocino this summer, I've been meaning to do that for years. I'm SURE I'll see something that will blow my mind and I'll trade some genetics with my homey while I'm there.

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yes, this thread has gone to complete shit.

so ANY FUCKING WAY... who wants to bitch slap a dispensary?
 
Dude your rant is ridiculous, the laws of supply and demand and the economics of pot are obvious to everyone here

No they are not obvious to everyone here. You are one that clearly does not understand it all. You think you do, but you don't. You understand a very small portion of the concept. That is obvious to me.

Let me do ths real slow like and one more time for you dude.

Look at all of the Mexican schawg shit reject ditch weed that gets sold in Cali everyday. Gee, what's up with that Cali. You got problems growing the digity dank there. You can't grow enough to meet demand.

How do I know this? Well, it fucking obvious. Tons and tons of schwag weed is imported bought and sold and smoked in Cali every year.

If Cali met its demand, it wouldn't import shitty weed.

If Colorado met its demand, it wouldn't import shitty weed.

I know you have some pride wrapped up in all of this now, but read those two sentences again. If the second is true, the first must be also.

You said the second was true; therefore if you are to be intellectually consistent, you must also agree the second is true, that Cali has the same problem of growing enough good weed.

Cali imports shitty weed too dude. A whole fuckin' bunch every fucking day. What, you can't grow enough good weed in Cali to meet demand, just like Colorado? Not only that, you don't reject outdoor mid grade in Cali. A whole bunch of that shit stays in state. A whole bunch. And a whole bunch of that mid grade is smoked in state gladly by people who could not afford / do not want digity dank.

So blow me with the whole "we are so spoiled with mountains of digity dank that us snobs reject outdoor mid-grade in Cali." Cali smokes the fuck out of mid grade outdoor and they smoke the fuck out of imported Mexican Schwag, by choice. Not because there is a supply problem of good weed.

But I don't think you are getting that still. Let me know if you are not as I am glad to hand out lessons in economics for free. I'm a cool cat, I'll educate ya.

And no, as of your last post, you don't appear to have a very firm or deep grasp of in depth economic issues in addition to the digity dank scene in Colorado. I'll PM you a reading list from my personal library if you would like.
 
I read the whole post, I didnt really understand what happend that got you mad?

Mad is not quite the right word. The dude gave me the 'we disp are on the front lines doing all of the work and you growers are taking advantage of that work.' My problem with that is that this dude just showed up a few months ago. I have been doing this for a decade, and I am a minor player.

He has it backwards. He is there because of us and if the State shuts his doors, he is looking for another job. I am not. I will still be growing and selling weed, fighting the War on Drugs, just like I was yesterday.

the guy offered you 2grand for your pound, or he was saying that growers arent risking anything thats why you get so much?

If that guy offered me 2g's he knows I'd laugh in his face. He was trying to lock somebody in long term that is new to the pricing structure of mj but will be able to produce righteous meds into $2000/lbs.

I went in there to let the disp know I wasn't going to let that happen and in his course of trying to justify that low price he threw that shit out there about us growers taking advantge of their effirt and hard work.

That dude's effort and hard work he does saves his own ass, not mine. I don't need disp to sell digity dank.
 
yea man that his buddy isnt getting more money, sounds like he is the greedy one

Call me greedy all day long dude, I could give two shits. Hmmm ... could you calling me greedy have anything to do with the fact that you understand less about what I am throwing out there than chrometrichs does and are reduced to peanut gallery comments?

Enquiring minds want to know.
 
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Oregon has good weed I hear, this could just be a bad rumor, but the shit in my closet seems to back that rumor up ;)

Gotta say when CO started getting attention I had no idea that such a weed community existed there, I was living in Eugene and thought I had found the mecca..... little did I know!
 
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congratulations professor, you've got a self professed phd in schwag economics. And as someone who has been dealing with disp's for as long as you have, please tell us why you haven't opened your own or at least formed a respectful relationship with an owner who would give you a fair price? Is it because you go in talking down to everyone, like you do here, throwing your schwag phd in everyone's face?

California imports shitty mexican brick weed because there is a (small) market for it here and abroad, end of story. I don't take that personally and whine about it, its a fact. CO imports CA weed because there is market demand, end of story. Whine all you want, CA is only going to be giving CO, more and more of our deliciously marketed and priced weed. Welcome to today's pot market kid.

'That dude's effort and hard work he does saves his own ass, not mine. I don't need disp to sell digity dank'

Just keep using mmj as your excuse to sell your gear on the black market, how righteous of you. Demand a higher price for your 'righteousness'
 
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Well this thread is toast and beyond salvage, on another note, indoor is better then outdoor!!!!

/duck and cover

Just a joke please don't hurt me, I mean no harm, just making light of a pissing match that seems to be more and more common on here there more I get involved in the forums.

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I've seen some Daaaaaank in Oregon. My favorite place to get genetics is still Vancouver, B.C. I want the tuna. I gotta check that out.

Cat Jockey, there's jackasses who still buy schwag here in CO and in just about every state. Did you see the schwag bust in Mexico City the other day (I watch univision every now and then to keep up on my spanish)? They were saying it was $2.4M in schwag, it was enough to fill up 2 semi's. I doubt that's all going to Cali. I've seen mexi brick in dispensaries here.

The fact that there is mexi brick weed in dispensaries here makes me want to bitch slap a dispensary owner.

Chrometrichs is correct with his economics, there are people in cali and everywhere else who have decided that they only want to pay X for a bag. X might be $85 for some nuveau club jogger in LA to get an eighth of overpriced OG purple kush, or it might be $8 for some junky to get his schwag.

Have you ever had someone complain about how they're use to getting an ounce for $45? That's their X. That's schwag and that's what they want.

In CO, X is $50 for Dank, maybe $8-10 for schwag. In CA, the price of X varies substantially between different grades of weed.

It's simple price vs demand. If it is as cheap as you can get it or you have the best quality, you will always have a market as the demand will be there as long as you have a fair market price. It's the mid-grade market that struggles to find an equilibrium. I would not want to be in the mid-grade market, it is a difficult place to be.

There will always be a schwag market in every state and there will always be a market for the dank.

For the record, Cali weed doesn't suck at all and I'm going to mendo in the summer to prove that point to myself. My initial argument was an environmental issue about growing in the bay vs altitude, but cali has PLENTY of mountains as well. You don't hear alot of people growing at altitude, that's really my point.

This is like comparing cali wine to wine from anywhere else, except cali can't consume the entire surplus of it's good wine (maybe they do and I'm drinking mid grade cali wine!).
 
some people like getting a $500lb of brick week because thats all they can afford and weed isnt their life. Im glad you saved your friend from getting ripped off, he owe you big time. its only going to get worse cat jockey so get yourself mentally prepared for weed to get cheaper and cheaper. I dont know if you have a 9-5 job, if so, you could always get a 2nd job
 
More ... ummm ... ridiculous ranting.

This stuff is not simple in the sense of being able to talk about without a lot of words. If too many word on your computer screen at one time hurts your brain, that is your problem to contend with in life and I don't know what the fuck to tell ya.

Not ranting. Anyone that thinks they can sum up a discussion about the nationwide supply and demand of marijuana in a couple of sentences and by just looking at such teeny tiny and fluctuating aspect of the supply/demand chain, the Colorado disp scene, and then draw conclusions about the state wide supply and abundance of digity dank, doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about.

You see chrometrichs, I and other Colorado digity dank growers are sitting back and letting Cali mid grade outdoor in the disp. I am not the only one that thinks there shit going down dude. Shit meaning local and federal LEO doing some things soon.

Make no mistake that we will take that market away from cali mid grade outdoor when it pleases us, but we will let you have it until then.

You are not taking that into consideration either in vast sweeping generalization of Colorado's internal digity dank production you made from your postion of authority and omniscience a couple of states away.

C'mon in Cali outdoor. We will push you out of the Market later when we feel like it. Right now, a lot of us don't feel like it, so have at it. Just don't get all upitty about and forget that is that one of the main reasons, and another reason obviously lost on you.

That was the point about the Cali outdoor pound, not to insult any cali growers, but to point out that even where I live, a low population density area, the shit wouldn't move. The shit wouldn't move on the Colorado Black Market because the black market has higher quality. Filled with the digity dank.

Make no mistake, that there are large portions of this state and large portions of this state's population that have never smoked schwag or mid grade in there life. Or even laid eyes on the shit.

Quite frankly and no shit dude, I don't where the fuck to go if you wanted me to find you a sack of schwag or mid grade in Colorado on the Black Market. It is nowhere around me. The vast, vast majority of the Black Market around me is nothing but Colorado homegrown digity dank. Been that way for years.

I gots some shit to do, so that's enough for now, but let me now when you want me to PM you a pop quiz on what you just read so I can make an estimation of how much of that you comprehended and so I can further tailor my lesson plan to meet your special needs.

Nobody I know sells it, smokes it, grows it or would settle for it.

Toodles.
 
how many dispensaries does CO have??? im sure they will be releasing elite seed company soon........
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Medical ounces for $250 for top quality will hold steady here. It will be a quality battle, not a price battle just like the $50 eighth. If it's not up to quality, people don't buy it here, they'll just go to the next guy. producing THE dank is still a skill that few will posess, and for those few, the market will always demand their product.

If I can't get $250 an oz, I will start a word of mouth delivery service as I know for a fact that my bud would be the best jar in the dispensary. $250 for an oz of bud a dispensary would sell for $380 an ounce and up delivered to your door.

If they're not giving you a fair price, just don't go back. They'll end up lowballing themselves out of any kind of quality. Then their sales will decline and they'll have to lower their prices to attract sales again. It is a difficult market to try and find an equilibrium.

If you offer a fair price, you should be fine in the market. I have never had a problem selling anything I have ever grown because I ask a fair market price and the quality is higher that about 95% of the "dank" out there.
 
how many dispensaries does CO have??? im sure they will be releasing elite seed company soon........
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there's about to be 90% less of them in Denver starting next week. Elite seeds? Cali is a few years ahead of CO, but it looks like we're catching up pretty quick.
 
All I have to say is that if all you cats arguing about Cali vs Colorado got together and tried everyone's top strain or two, THERE WOULD BE NO LOSERS!! LOL. I'm definitely down to have a smokeout; if we could only figure out how to cross state lines with our meds... (smirk).
BTW, Sputnik, I'm trying to figure out if a can run a high rh for a bit to boost yield and then drop it for trichome production. Any thoughts?
 
All I have to say is that if all you cats arguing about Cali vs Colorado got together and tried everyone's top strain or two, THERE WOULD BE NO LOSERS!! LOL. I'm definitely down to have a smokeout; if we could only figure out how to cross state lines with our meds... (smirk).
BTW, Sputnik, I'm trying to figure out if a can run a high rh for a bit to boost yield and then drop it for trichome production. Any thoughts?

Run a high rh for veg and the first 4-8 weeks of flower and then swap it to a low rh to finish out in it's final 4-5 weeks? I think that should work dandy for a better vegetative growth and better initial bud set, but I don't believe that it will make bigger buds in the end. Maybe just drop the rh in the last 2-3 weeks when resin production is at it's highest. Try toying with it. That's a great idea btw. The only way to know for sure is to do the scientific method and eliminate all other variables. I did with a few of my runs, my variable being rh, but I left the rh constant for the whole run. Don't change your nute recipe, ph, temp, strains, anything for 3 runs and just toy with the rh levels and see what works best for your specific setup. I would say run it over 70% (if you can go that high up here, not too hard with hydro btw) for the high side, and then dump it down to 25-30% for the dry side. The sudden drop in rh might stress the plants out (likely), so use some sillica in all of the runs to help them stay hardy.

Good luck with the run and keep us updated for sure. I should start flowering my first crop in a few years sometime next week.

If we had a CO vs CA smokeout, someone would have to rake me off of the ceiling (props to bill hicks)..
 
some good ideas there, sputnik. Sorry if it was off-topic (like the pissing contest, haha). I think everyone who knows me knows there's at least a couple shop owners I feel could use a smack... I'm going to set up this warehouse first, then when I get that project almost under control, I'll start the rh experiments. I think 75% on the high side and 25% on the low side sound like a great starting point. I think dropping the rh the last 3 weeks would also be another good prevention for PM, as by that time i no longer run the sulphur burner...
 
IMO, a big part of why we have ANY shortage (?) of weed here is that the scene blew up only 6 months ago wheras Cali has been growing strong for well over 10 years.

Next summer yer gonna se FAR more Colorado OD pot here. Guaranteed. Paonia bud will be back...as will the real "Cough"....

Seems like damn near anyone in Cali can grow and sell to a dispensary. Here in CO you are >required, by law< to be a licensed patient to sell to a dispensary.

ANY Cali bud here is simply illegal and shouldn't be supported until provisions are made for those sales...if any. Fer God's sake...ya CAN'T bring a fuckin orange, apple or any other fruit into CALI...and CO Health Dept should probably return the favor to all Californicans by stoppin Cali cars at the border for inspections for grapes, wine and Cali weed (with PM or not). Turnabout is only fair!

I've smoked great weed from both states and I've smoked crap weed from both states.
Colorado doesn't have as many strains but as most folks know...MORE isn't always better and the strains that are held here are held for a good reason.

of course...to get the serious shit you gotta have an in....and if you don't..I'm not surprised that anyone's take on CO pot could who doesn't live here could have a knock about "quality" in there somewhere.

either way....the "Cali way" has simply fucked this MMJ program up to shit in less than 6 months...whether it be following the dispensary model presented there..or being over run with bud cus every 20-some year old (both here and there) wants to think they invented weed.

what a joke

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ANY Cali bud here is simply illegal and shouldn't be supported until provisions are made for those sales...if any. Fer God's sake...ya CAN'T bring a fuckin orange, apple or any other fruit into CALI...and CO Health Dept should probably return the favor to all Californicans by stoppin Cali cars at the border for inspections for grapes, wine and Cali weed (with PM or not). Turnabout is only fair!


I've smoked great weed from both states and I've smoked crap weed from both states.


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Right there with ya brother, except for that stopping every car deal; DON'T BE GIVING ROMER ANY NEW IDEAS!!!! hehe
 
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