HELP PLEASE! PLANTS APPEAR TO BE DYING!!

[cannafarmer420]

GAIA GREEN VEG & BLOOM

I use gaia sometimes too, but it's a fraction of the total process, there are a ton of equal or better replacements for it as well. Its an amendment mix with proprietary amounts. Most people on the farm grow straight , like God tier weed, almost all have their own methods. There are many many ways to grow amazing bud. ✌

 

[cannafarmer420]

DON'T USE OCEAN FORREST, ITS TO HOT, ORDER MARIJUANA GROW BIBLE

That is a super outdated book

 

[cannafarmer420]

Welcome to the cannabis internet. There will always be competing opinions. My advice is to find people who are growing gardens you'd want, and listen to them.

Very sound advice, we all have a million pictures of our different grows

 

[cannafarmer420]

There are a lot of ways to grow. Everything can work. It's just a matter of using each tool or resource correctly. I've grown a whole lot of really nice bud in Ocean Forest. Do I pop seeds in it? No. It's hotter than I like for that. But it works great for late veg and flower.

I'm sorry, I read it all I just don't understand. Organic vs salt? I have no idea what that means? I just put the ocean forest fox farm soil in the pots and sprayed with fertilizer. Obviously, this is way more complex than I understand. Thanks for the input!!

Sorry I was mostly responding to Wonka, didn't meant to confuse you. If you start a grow thread on here people will help you get set up . Don't plant a new seed right away, figure things out, have a thread going and then restart once you fewl confident. It will do wonders for your growing

 

[Saint1]

Fox Farm Ocean Forest is "hotter" than Fox Farm Happy Frog. I have used Both with great success. On both of them - I never feed until at least week 4-5 maybe into week 6 depending on strain and when I'm looking to flip. They both have enough Nutrients (supplements) to last that long. THEN you can add (insert Nute Brand Here) whatever line you want to use but do it very sparingly until to SEE and figure out how it affects your plants. New growers haven't learned to "read" the plants... trial and error as well.....is a great way to learn.... look at what you have going on now... do things different as it didn't work. In the beginning, do things... simple/basic for the first few grows.. once you get the feel of farming.... sky HIGH, pun intended.... have fun - there are ALOT of great people here with LOADS of experience. LESS IS MORE. period.

 

[cannafarmer420]

Fox Farm Ocean Forest is "hotter" than Fox Farm Happy Frog. I have used Both with great success. On both of them - I never feed until at least week 4-5 maybe into week 6 depending on strain and when I'm looking to flip. They both have enough Nutrients (supplements) to last that long. THEN you can add (insert Nute Brand Here) whatever line you want to use but do it very sparingly until to SEE and figure out how it affects your plants. New growers haven't learned to "read" the plants... trial and error as well.....is a great way to learn.... look at what you have going on now... do things different as it didn't work. In the beginning, do things... simple/basic for the first few grows.. once you get the feel of farming.... sky HIGH, pun intended.... have fun - there are ALOT of great people here with LOADS of experience. LESS IS MORE. period.

This sort of Info is why you need a grow thread my friend. This is very well said saint1

 

[ArtfulCodger]

Fox Farm Ocean Forest is "hotter" than Fox Farm Happy Frog. I have used Both with great success. On both of them - I never feed until at least week 4-5 maybe into week 6 depending on strain and when I'm looking to flip. They both have enough Nutrients (supplements) to last that long. THEN you can add (insert Nute Brand Here) whatever line you want to use but do it very sparingly until to SEE and figure out how it affects your plants. New growers haven't learned to "read" the plants... trial and error as well.....is a great way to learn.... look at what you have going on now... do things different as it didn't work. In the beginning, do things... simple/basic for the first few grows.. once you get the feel of farming.... sky HIGH, pun intended.... have fun - there are ALOT of great people here with LOADS of experience. LESS IS MORE. period.

My experience as well. Well said.

 

[Sunasun]

Fox Farm Ocean Forest is "hotter" than Fox Farm Happy Frog. I have used Both with great success. On both of them - I never feed until at least week 4-5 maybe into week 6 depending on strain and when I'm looking to flip. They both have enough Nutrients (supplements) to last that long. THEN you can add (insert Nute Brand Here) whatever line you want to use but do it very sparingly until to SEE and figure out how it affects your plants. New growers haven't learned to "read" the plants... trial and error as well.....is a great way to learn.... look at what you have going on now... do things different as it didn't work. In the beginning, do things... simple/basic for the first few grows.. once you get the feel of farming.... sky HIGH, pun intended.... have fun - there are ALOT of great people here with LOADS of experience. LESS IS MORE. period.

Eloquently put.

 

[tgpeters]

My opinion probably does not matter. But... I prefer hydro grows. I find it easier / less prone for mistakes. Generally, it's impossible to over water (assuming the right media), just make sure the nutrients and PH is correct, and things will usually work out. My suggestion (if you have time) do a couple practice grows with peppers and tomatoes. They are cheap, easy for training and if all plants die - who cares. It was a learning experience of what not to do. Work the process and the system, then move to seeds purchased from a good seed bank. As with all growing, slow / small changes are best. Wide swings from low nutrients to higher nutrients can have devastating effects. Your plants are obviously having problems (I fully agree with all the comments over feeding). I'm thinking they can still be saved. If that was my grow, I would flush all the plants with PH corrected water (no nutes) and flush well. Bring the plants to a large sink (laundry tub) and flush really well. Make a new batch of feed (way on the weak side) with some root hormone (weak side). Water well, and don't mess with them. Water again when the soil dries (based on your temps) that may take days. When the plants have improved slowly move to stronger nutes (but still less than higher suggested range). keep in the middle.
Hang in - You can do this, once you get the basics down, all will be good.

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

I'm sorry, I read it all I just don't understand. Organic vs salt? I have no idea what that means? I just put the ocean forest fox farm soil in the pots and sprayed with fertilizer. Obviously, this is way more complex than I understand. Thanks for the input!!

Organic and salt describe different methods of feeding plants.

Organic feeding involves the microbes in the soil that are in a symbiotic relationship with the plant's roots. We feed the microbes and the microbes feed the plants. In turn, the plants support the microbes. It's complicated, but it's natural and it works.

Use of salts doesn't involve microbes. The salt nutrients feed the plant directly. The grower thus has a great deal of control and can grow amazing plants. To my way of thinking, however, this method isn't as forgiving as organic growing.

It's important to know which type of growing we're discussing because the methods are quite different. In my opinion, on of the most important things a new grower should do is figure out how they want to grow and then stay with it till they get it right. I don't endorse either method, but for my own growing, I prefer to grow organically.

I just don't understand the difference in opinions here. Some people say to keep going and I can save them, others are saying to trash! So confused!! Thank you for your input though!!

I only skimmed the thread, but I think I know how this dilemma happens. People just have different purposes and intents. I like to save plants when I can because I consider it a way to learn and discover what went wrong. It can take a long time, though. I once grew two plants for almost a year. It was a long time, but I learned a lot and the weed turned out to be my wife's all-time favorite. I call that a win.

 

[j2m3s]

Sorry for your pending loss. Save time, learn what you did right and/or wrong and start over.

The plant is not worth saving if you are expecting a decent yield.

 

[JohnBlazr]

I’ve seen worse, you could fix it bro. Y’all are flexing on him way too hard , post your first plant, not your tenth. Just water like they said, you’re gonna have to wait a few weeks for them to recover then flip it. But stop watering everyday.

 

[JohnBlazr]

I’m just saying he spent 11 weeks on it, to ask him to cull it is a lot. You could do either man, they say kill it because if you do it right you’ll be where you are now in a few weeks and with a stronger looking plant , or you could wait 4 weeks to recover and have a kind of odd, but ultimately ok plant.

 

[AsheyBear]

I feel like it was probably a watering issue. Roots just haven’t been able to search deep and the nutrients have been piling on the top of few inches of soil.

Hope you can fix them, and good luck!! Maybe even consider heavily topping the plants, transplanting into slightly larger pots that are uniform in size. Then hydrate the soil evenly just outside where the transplanted soil meets the new soil.

It might allow the plants to grow/heal, shifting more energy into repairing and allowing you to possible even out the canopy, keep the plants, and have them just veg out longer. I usually water feed every 3-4 days, close to 4 litres of water in a five gallon pot at my current stage.

My tip, but I’m a beginner grower, would be to heavily top though. Cut the plants down to 5 or 6 nodes, and have them just heal up. Might be a good option. Not sure though, fingers crossed

 

[crimsonecho]

I also sprayed them with a neem, mint essential oil pesticide in case of mites.

not saying other problems are not present ie. overwatering and overfeeding but this is what pulled the trigger imo. i had almost identical burn from essential oil sprays when i first started growing. never again.

the oil just clogs the stomata and burns the plants to a crisp. it will only get better with the new growth assuming you will correct your watering and feeding habits.

 

[Bdlatoz]

Thank you everyone for your posts and comments. I went ahead and repotted and pruned them cutting off the dead leaves and they are coming back and have new chutes forming. I've had many gardens, so hope these come back like other plants I've done this with. Keeping my fingers crossed. Just can't kill something I've worked so hard on. Thank you again everyone!!

 

[Bdlatoz]

not saying other problems are not present ie. overwatering and overfeeding but this is what pulled the trigger imo. i had almost identical burn from essential oil sprays when i first started growing. never again.

the oil just clogs the stomata and burns the plants to a crisp. it will only get better with the new growth assuming you will correct your watering and feeding habits.

Thank you! Won't apply that again!! Appreciate the helpful tip!!

 

[Bdlatoz]

Welcome to the cannabis internet. There will always be competing opinions. My advice is to find people who are growing gardens you'd want, and listen to them.

Thank you!! Love your comment!! I agree. Several people said kill it and I just don't garden like that.

 

[Bdlatoz]

I feel like it was probably a watering issue. Roots just haven’t been able to search deep and the nutrients have been piling on the top of few inches of soil.

Hope you can fix them, and good luck!! Maybe even consider heavily topping the plants, transplanting into slightly larger pots that are uniform in size. Then hydrate the soil evenly just outside where the transplanted soil meets the new soil.

It might allow the plants to grow/heal, shifting more energy into repairing and allowing you to possible even out the canopy, keep the plants, and have them just veg out longer. I usually water feed every 3-4 days, close to 4 litres of water in a five gallon pot at my current stage.

My tip, but I’m a beginner grower, would be to heavily top though. Cut the plants down to 5 or 6 nodes, and have them just heal up. Might be a good option. Not sure though, fingers crossed

Thank you so much!!

 

[Bdlatoz]

There are a lot of ways to grow. Everything can work. It's just a matter of using each tool or resource correctly. I've grown a whole lot of really nice bud in Ocean Forest. Do I pop seeds in it? No. It's hotter than I like for that. But it works great for late veg and flower.

Thank you!! Do you mind explaining what too hot means for the soil? I've seen that a couple of times and don't know what that means? Is it a high ph? Thank you!!