Clawing or just genetics? any info would be great

[Pants]

Over water second glance as well.

only a few hours later and they get this droop, no water at all between previous post and now

 

[Pants]

It’s both. Nutes it looks like you have too much n. That’s the hook downward.
The hooks upward on leaf tips the light is too hot . I see both symptoms.

thank you, will avoid any nutes for a cycle or two until tips clear back up

 

[Pants]

thank you, will avoid any nutes for a cycle or two until tips clear back up

watering maybe once a week until ~10% runoff in 5gals’s they get bone dry before any water

 

[GNick55]

only a few hours later and they get this droop, no water at all between previous post and nowView attachment 2139134

what’s going here?
when was last watering?

 

[Pants]

what’s going here?
when was last watering?

last watering was 3 days ago, not due for another few days but the wilting is making me nervous now- been trying to avoid frequent watering since the OG post several weeks ago where i was definitely overwatering (frequency vs volume)

 

[GNick55]

last watering was 3 days ago, not due for another few days but the wilting is making me nervous now- been trying to avoid frequent watering since the OG post several weeks ago where i was definitely overwatering (frequency vs volume)

ok how do you determine when to water again?

 

[Pants]

when the moisture meter is on the lowest it can go and leaves start to show a slight droop, usually 6 days give or take- i’d do the lift method but with the screens in place its a pain to raise, lower, re-tuck, etc

 

[Pants]

maybe the wilt/droop is still light sensitivity? since its only happening to the upper part of the plant? lights are >4’ away, maybe i should try to move them further away as i have a 4’x8’ tent and only use a 4’x4’ portion currently

 

[GNick55]

when the moisture meter is on the lowest it can go and leaves start to show a slight droop, usually 6 days give or take- i’d do the lift method but with the screens in place its a pain to raise, lower, re-tuck, etc

one of the reason why i don’t use one,. i like to be able to inspect plants or move if needed etc,.
what size bags and how much water you give them?

 

[jdog22]

sir from being on this fourm you need to learn some water pratices, so the best method ive learnt is when its dry pick the pots up feel how heavy they are, even put them on a scale until you know than water them and weight they again. get used to it and youll water so perfect. on some humid days i water 2-3 days on the dry days they have water everyday because they are drying enough. you could be different so go by weight.

next adjust the ec level so its sitting at 1000 for now so she drinks better. to many nutes and she will drink slow.
check your ph next because if its out of whack, youll get all sorts of lockouts. 6.1 - 6.5 from what ive seen is best

good air circulation will help the plants dry out quicker.

 

[Pants]

40% humidity, 70°F, about a gallon and a half every 6 days or so, 5 gallon fabric pots. Maybe i’ll just do away with the screen so I can go back to lifting

 

[jdog22]

i use a screen also but lifting it a cm now i can tell. just make sure you have some air down there ;) haha i notice the ones sitting on the otherside of my fan, the soil drys much slower

 

[Pants]

sir from being on this fourm you need to learn some water pratices, so the best method ive learnt is when its dry pick the pots up feel how heavy they are, even put them on a scale until you know than water them and weight they again. get used to it and youll water so perfect. on some humid days i water 2-3 days on the dry days they have water everyday because they are drying enough. you could be different so go by weight.

next adjust the ec level so its sitting at 1000 for now so she drinks better. to many nutes and she will drink slow.
check your ph next because if its out of whack, youll get all sorts of lockouts. 6.1 - 6.5 from what ive seen is best

good air circulation will help the plants dry out quicker.

PH’d to 6.5 every watering, tons of circulation (2 fans, canopy and under canopy) half tent open for fresh air as well. I havnt ever tested the runoff for Ec/ppm but that will be my next purchase as i start to learn the fine tuning (and my watering and light woes of course)

 

[GNick55]

40% humidity, 70°F, about a gallon and a half every 6 days or so, 5 gallon fabric pots. Maybe i’ll just do away with the screen so I can go back to lifting

ok that’s enough water for 5 gallon,. i’m not saying it’s your situation but plants that size in flower in 5 gallon bags probably need to be watered every 3-4 days,..
you using a cheap moisture meter?
cheap means garbage and incorrect readings, throw it away,.
but before watering i would like to see pictures of the grow area from a distance to see everything,. than a video or you to check a few droopy leaves, their stems, are they stiff pointing upwards with droopy leaf or us the stem droopy like the leaf?

 

[jdog22]

PH’d to 6.5 every watering, tons of circulation (2 fans, canopy and under canopy) half tent open for fresh air as well. I havnt ever tested the runoff for Ec/ppm but that will be my next purchase as i start to learn the fine tuning (and my watering and light woes of course)

nice man your doing good :)

i can see you have good drainage, you feed to runoff? if so your ec would be fine.

hmm the only times ive seen these plants go flopppy is over watered, they get these speed bump things on the leaves and underwatered can look like a completely dead plant with no life xD

 

[jdog22]

ok that’s enough water for 5 gallon,. i’m not saying it’s your situation but plants that size in flower in 5 gallon bags probably need to be watered every 3-4 days,..
you using a cheap moisture meter?
cheap means garbage and incorrect readings, throw it away,.
but before watering i would like to see pictures of the grow area from a distance to see everything,. than a video or you to check a few droopy leaves, their stems, are they stiff pointing upwards with droopy leaf or us the stem droopy like the leaf?

haha nick you talking about those shitty green moisture meters you can put in a cup of water and they read dry

 

[GNick55]

haha nick you talking about those shitty green moisture meters you can put in a cup of water and they read dry

that’s hilarious

 

[jdog22]

that’s hilarious

thats just how i threw out mothers when she got me one xD

its like those ebay dehumidifiers, sucks up like 1L of water in a week in comparison to me feeding my plants 32L a week haha

 

[Pants]

ok that’s enough water for 5 gallon,. i’m not saying it’s your situation but plants that size in flower in 5 gallon bags probably need to be watered every 3-4 days,..
you using a cheap moisture meter?
cheap means garbage and incorrect readings, throw it away,.
but before watering i would like to see pictures of the grow area from a distance to see everything,. than a video or you to check a few droopy leaves, their stems, are they stiff pointing upwards with droopy leaf or us the stem droopy like the leaf?

i’ll snap a pic of the setup in the morning when i go lights back on! thank you all for the quick responses

 

[GNick55]

i’ll snap a pic of the setup in the morning when i go lights back on! thank you all for the quick responses

cool,.. thanks