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Checked the 12 and found lower leaves wilted. I realized the rain we've been getting is hit or miss and no appreciable amount. The grass clippings probably soaked up most of the rain and I haven't watered them in 2 weeks. So, went and soaked them this...
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Checked the 12 and found lower leaves wilted.
I realized the rain we've been getting is hit or miss and no appreciable amount. The grass clippings probably soaked up most of the rain and I haven't watered them in 2 weeks. So, went and soaked them this morning. Will check later this afternoon.

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When I left some, go to see if they would re-veg they never did have much in the way of tri-comb production! Not like a normal plant. So I executed them!
 
I need to get one of those in the next few months.
You go mostly from feminized seed yeah?
How often have you found a male?
When I bought fem seed I never found a male.
These are regular seeds and I had a surprisingly lower number of males. I was hoping for more 'cause I have a VERY hard time culling perfectly good plants. 🫤
And the early flowering is mostly my fault for having them under 18hrs., then putting them outside where it was only 14hrs. They thought it was Fall.
From what I understand, breeding photos and autos with each other can produce early flowering plants/seeds, but can result in plants that can't be re-vegged. Like my Frostberry's. All have flowered early. A few of the other varieties have too.
 
Checked the 12 and found lower leaves wilted.
I realized the rain we've been getting is hit or miss and no appreciable amount. The grass clippings probably soaked up most of the rain and I haven't watered them in 2 weeks. So, went and soaked them this morning. Will check later this afternoon.

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Stalk looks pretty good! I don’t know if I would want the base of it covered up with stuff! Just two cents!
 
When I bought fem seed I never found a male.
These are regular seeds and I had a surprisingly lower number of males. I was hoping for more 'cause I have a VERY hard time culling perfectly good plants. 🫤
And the early flowering is mostly my fault for having them under 18hrs., then putting them outside where it was only 14hrs. They thought it was Fall.
From what I understand, breeding photos and autos with each other can produce early flowering plants/seeds, but can result in plants that can't be re-vegged. Like my Frostberry's. All have flowered early. A few of the other varieties have too.
From what I understand, breeding photos and autos with each other can produce early flowering plants/seeds, but can result in plants that can't be re-vegged.
Exactly what is happening to me right now! I put one in the ground about a week before @Thatoneguyyouknow_ gave me an education here.
It was one of those 'blinding flash of the obvious' moments too, I'm not an outdoor grower so didn't even consider that going 18 to 14 would trigger flowering. She shows no sign of re-veg.....
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Ive been a bit paranoid about the ruderalis genes being bred outdoor since autos became popular. Havent had plants like that yet, but ive seen a lot of em, and getting more common quickly. I became about 10x more careful about where i source my seeds once auto became popular.

IIRC the autoflowering ruderalis gene appears to be a dominant gene. Both parents do not always have to have it to pass the character on. And i overthink just about everything so. Grow all the female autos outside that you want.

To me personally, a plant thats easy to trigger flowering when young, and will not reveg. That is an autoflowering plant lol.

I dont have anything against autos either at all. Ive done some auto runs myself. Im just paranoid about the pollen getting into the photo period gene pools. Have been for years, and its definitely happening now.

Now that hemp is legal in more states, and large scale cultivation is happening. Hermaphrodite, and male industrial hemp pollen is being scattered far and wide all of a sudden too. And the feds no longer exterminate the wild ditch weed thats escaped either.

THC production is recessive iirc. Most cannabis plants pollenated by industrial hemp, just make randomized phenotypes of more industrial hemp, or very low CBD levels (also appears to be a dominant gene) requiring back crossing to elevate. Autoflowering is a dominant gene. It only takes one parent to pass it on to the offspring. Both parents need the THC production genes if you dont plan on doing multiple generations oh selective breeding and pheno selection after the hemp cross.

Put these two things together, in a culture that isnt super careful about these sorts of things pretty much ever, and add a few decades of time. eeeeesh. I think most outdoor photoperiod growers should start thinking about making their own seeds in the next handful of years tbh. Ans storing them properly for the long term.

Montana state university, i believe, has been heading research into the dominant/recessive gene relationships in the subspecies of cannabis/hemp.

Im not trying to shame any growers at all. This is something a lot of us dont ever even think about, we just grow the plants we love to grow, and a weirdo plant is a weirdo plant. Certain weirdos can be bearers of bad news though.


Checked the 12 and found lower leaves wilted.
I realized the rain we've been getting is hit or miss and no appreciable amount. The grass clippings probably soaked up most of the rain and I haven't watered them in 2 weeks. So, went and soaked them this morning. Will check later this afternoon.

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They'll be stronger for it come fall even if yield less. When the plants get wilty repeatedly in veg they respond by greatly expanding the mass of their root systems. Sometimes i pull the dome off some clones to wilt em once. It greatly speeds up root time.
 
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From what I understand, breeding photos and autos with each other can produce early flowering plants/seeds, but can result in plants that can't be re-vegged.
Exactly what is happening to me right now! I put one in the ground about a week before @Thatoneguyyouknow_ gave me an education here.
It was one of those 'blinding flash of the obvious' moments too, I'm not an outdoor grower so didn't even consider that going 18 to 14 would trigger flowering. She shows no sign of re-veg.....View attachment 2186431
From what I understand, breeding photos and autos with each other can produce early flowering plants/seeds, but can result in plants that can't be re-vegged.
Exactly what is happening to me right now! I put one in the ground about a week before @Thatoneguyyouknow_ gave me an education here.
It was one of those 'blinding flash of the obvious' moments too, I'm not an outdoor grower so didn't even consider that going 18 to 14 would trigger flowering. She shows no sign of re-veg.....View attachment 2186431
Same with 2 of mine they did'nt get to 3ft yet and blooming. Guess i did'nt transition long enough thought i had. Ya think after 40yrs i'd learn LOL nope just like you the weather and daylight got me excited. Luckly i still have 4 other photos showing no signs and finally growing taller. Yours look healthy.
 
They'll be stronger for it come fall even if yield less. When the plants get wilty repeatedly in veg they respond by greatly expanding the mass of their root systems. Sometimes i pull the dome off some clones to wilt em once. It greatly speeds up root time.
So, of course, after deeply watering all plants in the morning, this afternoon the sky opened up and POURED for half an hour. Geesch.
 
Don’t you ever look at the weather report? Before the event!
So many times in the last month, the weatherman have predicted rain and it passed right over. Or split and half went north and half went south.
Or more often, the radar shows rain and it never makes it to the ground.
My plants were ailing and I had the cure. 😉
 
Just taking a poke at you! Those girls are in good hands! Even the ones you fucked up and put out too early! You don’t get to live that down too soon!😂🐒 Got a few buddies coming up going to try and get that garden set up outback! There’s light at the end of the tunnel yet! Then you can start taking your shots!😃👍
 
When I bought fem seed I never found a male.
These are regular seeds and I had a surprisingly lower number of males. I was hoping for more 'cause I have a VERY hard time culling perfectly good plants. 🫤
And the early flowering is mostly my fault for having them under 18hrs., then putting them outside where it was only 14hrs. They thought it was Fall.
From what I understand, breeding photos and autos with each other can produce early flowering plants/seeds, but can result in plants that can't be re-vegged. Like my Frostberry's. All have flowered early. A few of the other varieties have too.
From what I understand, breeding photos and autos with each other can produce early flowering plants/seeds, but can result in plants that can't be re-vegged.
Exactly what is happening to me right now! I put one in the ground about a week before @Thatoneguyyouknow_ gave me an education here.
It was one of those 'blinding flash of the obvious' moments too, I'm not an outdoor grower so didn't even consider that going 18 to 14 would trigger flowering. She shows no sign of re-veg.....
Same with 2 of mine they did'nt get to 3ft yet and blooming. Guess i did'nt transition long enough thought i had. Ya think after 40yrs i'd learn LOL nope just like you the weather and daylight got me excited. Luckly i still have 4 other photos showing no signs and finally growing taller. Yours look healthy.
Yeah, lesson learned for me.
 
I don’t think I would want them bending too much farther than that! If it’s gonna be a regular occurrence, I would tie them off on a stake! But leave enough slack for them to do some bending. something like that could be trouble if they were wet! Just for your own peace of mind! It’s kind of a tough call, because the wind comes from all directions! Those babies are growing like they are on a mission! Whooo Doggies!!!
 
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wind is why i still use an inverted tomato cage on some plants in this day and age, staked off to the ground. Ugly as they are. but i also have to top early. cant be having no 8-10 foot goliaths here. Makes wind broken branches an even bigger risk. Higher then 7 foot or so, the UPS guy may see em from his truck when/if he comes up the driveway lmao.

But that's what you guys are for! Good ole vicarious behemoths!

If your soil is nice and aerated as it should be, the strength of the stalk becomes less important then the rigidity of the soil when it comes to plants holding themselves up on their own. added support is a pretty good idea, like chucky said just make sure they still have some wiggle room.
 
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Update
Got almost all AUTOs transplanted. Don't know what to do with the remainders.
And I lied... I used 7 gallon fabric pots instead of 10. (Had to slow down the spending.)
Ended up with:
1 CBD Cookies
2 CBD Amnesias
2 Lowryders
2 G13s
3 CBD Kushs
3 Critical Gorilla Glues
3 CBD Purples
4 Red Pure CBD
4 CBD Glu

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