Never had buds look this way so early…

[GNick55]

Not a problem bull, I just wanted to make sure you knew there was thrips.

I don't know why this individual couldn't recognize obvious bug damage, maybe he should read up a bit, but that's not my business

some have too much faith in the internet,..

 

[RootFarmer]

Isn't thrip damage more streaky than spotty? Could be a bug involved but it seems spotty to my eye, not streaky.

Having grown multiple strains st the same time, I've seen plants that should finish last actually finish first and vice versa. Or even different plants from the same seed stock progress a week apart from each other. Individual genetics, environment, nutrition can all affect how plants develop. Given the greater variability involved, it seems to be more noticeable outdoors IME. A cloudy and cooler than normal August will definitely impact my yields this year.

Cannabis can surprise you or even do weird things sometimes. I had one last year's that was an afterthought. I had gotten a few seeds from a bargain shelf purchase and decided to try popping it. It didn't go out until around July and probably not even 6" tall yet. Never really spent any time on it. I just fed her when I fed the rest. She was in a 3 gallon pot. I managed to pull 100 g from her and she was my frostiest. Harvested at the end of the 1st week of October but "shouldn't" have finished until the 3rd week. So you never know.

 

[BearWater]

I’ve used Dr Zymes during mid/late flower several times in the past with pretty good results. It’s all organic and according to the label consists mostly of citric acid. This is my first encounter with thrips though. I believe I read where thrips are born pregnant…..

ill have to get some of this stuff on hand. I know a few members here are using also with what seems to be great results : )

Dude I wouldn’t be surprised! The insurance of survival is incredible with some species. Maybe all of them lol
It’s our problem to deal with but still impressive non the least : )

 

[HerbalEdu]

I’ve even picked a couple of the adults off the buds…..they landed on a sticky sugar leaf and got trapped.

any pics ? ... could be anything even something harmless for the plant

thrips are too small to get trapped with the trichrome, and never seen them on sugar leaves or crawling on the buds they much prefer lower leaves, and i have had two pretty severe infestations before worrying about it and as said damage shape en spreading across the leaves doesn't look like thrips damage

crawling on the buds could be spider mites, but well they don't get trapped either on sugar leaves, and damage size and spreading across the leaves doesn't look spidermites damage.

aphids doesn't damage the leaves like that ... same for barnacles and scale insects, broad and russet mites, fungus gnat, whiteflies, mealy bugs , leaf miners, caterpillars, inchworms etc ...

 

[Bullmark69]

any pics ? ... could be anything even something harmless for the plant

thrips are too small to get trapped with the trichrome, and never seen them on sugar leaves or crawling on the buds they much prefer lower leaves, and i have had two pretty severe infestations before worrying about it and as said damage shape en spreading across the leaves doesn't look like thrips damage

crawling on the buds could be spider mites, but well they don't get trapped either on sugar leaves, and damage size and spreading across the leaves doesn't look spidermites damage.

aphids doesn't damage the leaves like that ... same for barnacles and scale insects, broad and russet mites, fungus gnat, whiteflies, mealy bugs , leaf miners, caterpillars, inchworms etc ...I had a vid of the thrip larvae crawling on the underside of the leaves, but must have deleted it. It was tiny, wormlike with 2 little feelers in the front and white/cream colored. The adult that was found on the buds had wings and was about the size of a fungus knat…..just a tiny bit larger.

I’m not really well versed on pests, but I’m assuming that thrips begin as larvae and crawl, then mature into an adult with wings and actually fly ???

 

[HerbalEdu]

I’m not really well versed on pests, but I’m assuming that thrips begin as larvae and crawl, then mature into an adult with wings and actually fly ???

.I had a vid of the thrip larvae crawling on the underside of the leaves, but must have deleted it. It was tiny, wormlike with 2 little feelers in the front and white/cream colored. The adult that was found on the buds had wings and was about the size of a fungus knat…..just a tiny bit larger.

thrips are bad flyer, they don't fly so much they spent most of there time walking the leaves they re eating.

you can see some adults circled in red on the photos i linked previously, they're rather small and hardly seeable to the naked eyes but when they are moving on the leaves even if some species could be bigger and different colors. But size of of fungus gnat i don't think that's thrips they are much smaller i think. also usually they're not on the underside of the leaves you ll find most of them on the top side of the leaves. so most prolly something else than thrips.

the reproduce fast and eat a lot you would have hardly miss their damages wich are very specific in shape and repartition across the leaves.

same for spidermites.

 

[HerbalEdu]

here a magnified pic showing the size difference with larvae and adult:

and well aside thrips and spidermites there not much insects that would do such almost similar damage beachbumm highlighted.

tho' it's rather common people overeact on every insect they see even when harmless

also rather common some people on the net yell on insect on every mark they see on some leaves
(in general if the person is not able to tell you wich insect precisely for wich damage he's just guessing, some photo are easily findable with google to check "cannabis+bug name + damage" and you'll find hundred photos ... and each harmfull insects damage are very distinctive to each others)

while it's possible you had some harmfull insects (any pics of the bugs or any damage before you treated your plants ?), it's also possible you treated the plants when that wasn't needed at all, you won't be the first.

 

[HerbalEdu]

and well eventually some closer, well focused unblurry pics of the different leaves with damages beachbumm highlited may help be 100% sure, but look more like burnt/dried spot to me wich are not uncommon mid to late flowering.

 

[Jimmie]

some have too much faith in the internet,..

It’s gotta be true, I read it on the internet!

 

[Bullmark69]

Oh I’m 100% positive I had thrips. I saw several of the early stage ones crawling on the underside of the leaves, killed a couple adults that had wings but weren’t flying and picked a few adults out of my buds. As for damage, see for yourself:

 

[Bullmark69]

Oh I’m 100% positive I had thrips. I saw several of the early stage ones crawling on the underside of the leaves, killed a couple adults that had wings but weren’t flying and picked a few adults out of my buds. As for damage, see for yourself:View attachment 2264321View attachment 2264334

Here’s a better pic

 

[HerbalEdu]

Oh I’m 100% positive I had thrips. I saw several of the early stage ones crawling on the underside of the leaves, killed a couple adults that had wings but weren’t flying and picked a few adults out of my buds. As for damage, see for yourself:View attachment 2264321View attachment 2264334

Here’s a better picView attachment 2264341

i wouldn't be as affirmative, if you look at the first photo i linked of early infestation doesn't look quite the same. (damage shape, sizes, repartition across the leaf). also you would see new fresh damage each day on the leaf rather fast.

if it was the size of a gnat, then this was most prolly a gnat, whiteflies or similar, there tons of gnat species. thrips are much smaller:

 

[HerbalEdu]

Here’s a better picView attachment 2264341

the 3 wound in the middle do have a shape similar as thrips damage but they are rather big.

other damage also are big and somehow doesn't have quite the same aspect, texture than thrips damages, there's some weird reflect due to the light also making hard to clearly see.

i find it miss smaller damages around the rather (too) large ones (for thrips).

 

[Bullmark69]

Found the video….pretty sure this is a thrip. Probably located 12-14 from snipping leaves and looking under my loupe. Managed to rig up my magnifying glass on my camera phone and got this vid.

 

[Bullmark69]

Found the video….pretty sure this is a thrip. Probably located 12-14 from snipping leaves and looking under my loupe. Managed to rig up my magnifying glass on my camera phone and got this vid.

I’m not saying there wasn’t or isn’t some other pest doing damage……that could def be the case. But I know I had thrips for sure b/c I saw them.

 

[Bullmark69]

any pics ? ... could be anything even something harmless for the plant

thrips are too small to get trapped with the trichrome, and never seen them on sugar leaves or crawling on the buds they much prefer lower leaves, and i have had two pretty severe infestations before worrying about it and as said damage shape en spreading across the leaves doesn't look like thrips damage

crawling on the buds could be spider mites, but well they don't get trapped either on sugar leaves, and damage size and spreading across the leaves doesn't look spidermites damage.

aphids doesn't damage the leaves like that ... same for barnacles and scale insects, broad and russet mites, fungus gnat, whiteflies, mealy bugs , leaf miners, caterpillars, inchworms etc ...

Well here is one that I managed to capture and video. I found about a dozen after snipping some of the damaged leaves and examining. There could be another pest involved as well, I wouldn’t doubt it. But I know I had thrips.

 

[HerbalEdu]

I’m not saying there wasn’t or isn’t some other pest doing damage……that could def be the case. But I know I had thrips for sure b/c I saw them.

yup now big question is if there is still some, (you will see damages spreading day by day) or if you got ride of them with the previous treatment.