HELP! Hot Soil or Lack of Nutrients??

[Captspaulding]

Need that good tap water
There’s minerals in there

 

[Captspaulding]

Your plants are starving to death. Your ph'ing down for no reason and have wrecked the soil. There is nothing wrong with FFOF. Depending on plant/genetics, lighting and environmental conditions a plant can be fine in the soil only for 2 to 3 weeks. Then it will need fed. Either organics setup when you start the pots or go on liq/chemical/salt ferts when needed. Anytime plants get unhealthy or stressed the wrong way to much light always makes the situation worse. At that point the perfect amount of light can be to much light. If your hell bent and bound to ph your water in a soil grow get it to 6.5 and stop watering to run off. You worry about ph in coco and hydro and even then it's a balancing act with ppm. Those pots look awful small and small pots can bring stability issues to a soil grow. Good Luck!

Watering to runoff is def not good.
Drowning the roots. No uptake.

 

[euphoriaup]

Why are you using distilled water?

Not since they were seedlings

Need that good tap water
There’s minerals in th

Need that good tap water
There’s minerals in there

Watering to runoff is def not good.
Drowning the roots. No uptake.

I used distilled for three or four waterings before switching to my tap as you can see the well water we have is pretty rough

 

[euphoriaup]

Watering to runoff is def not good.
Drowning the roots. No uptake.

Also to be clear im not watering to runoff every watering, ive only done it a couple times to get ph readings

 

[Eledin]

Need that good tap water
There’s minerals in there

Or if your tap water is horrible like in my case you can get a bottle of oligoespectrum from GH which comes with every mineral they need and more than in tap water there are ways to work around not having to use tap water you know that. Many lines already contain minerals because they advice you to use RO water and they dont want anyone having deficiencies if they do so.

 

[Eledin]

I know that ffof has a bad rep for that, but really it’s not that crazy hot, I know you or I would throw a seedling in it walk away, and be fine. It think it’s the combination of heavy hands with nutes, and a soil already stacked with plenty of food.

As far as the heat/light intensity, man it’s a big driver of issues these days. If you look at the leaves the lowest ones yes they’re yellowing and stuff like that and N is definitely an necessity but if you look at the plant, it’s the side that’s closest to the light that’s yellowing. It looks like the other side of the plant is nice and lush and dark green usually a pretty good telltale sign, some of these cultivars are extremely sensitive to these LEDs at first now. I could totally be wrong here, but I’m also looking at the cupping of the leaves as well. It’s not extreme yet but it’s definitely there.

I would trust your opinion over mine hahaha Im just throwing ideas, Im not really sure whats going on with them but I know things can get pretty crazy with that soil. Yes we could use it and be fine but it seems to give a lot of problems to newbies as were normal peat light mixes never give any that I can see in the forum. Or even peat all/heavy mixes, I know people that used them to plant from seed and got away with it.

 

[Eledin]

Also them telling you to use RO water is a win-win, they can sell you more supplements or make the base more expensive. RO water usually comes at 6,5 ph so they know youre gonna fuck up a lot even if you dont meassure the ph. (In most cases). For organic 7 is fine but Ive seen tap water reach 8-9 and if youre going bio-mineral like many are, 6,5 should be ideal for flower.

 

[Novaracer69]

I have three plants currently all the same strain, they’re being very sassy, I have not fed them any nutrients and I’m using ph down to make sure my run off is at around 6.0 to 6.8 .

As you can see we are having wilting and rust spots, I’m currently using FFOF and my only thought is the soil is too hot?

Room temp is 70 and humidity is around 55 to 60.

To me it looks like my indoor plants after I forgot to water a few times. FFOS is not hot at all but people will complain because the add nutes and burt their plants. I use ffos all the time foe seedlings never had a problem.

 

[erb4all]

I do allow run off for sure so I can test the ph, and yes I’m using tap however it’s well water high in calcium and manganese. So to bring ph down from 7.8 to around 6 I use ph down. And usually the runoff is around 6.2 to 6.5

Do an alkalinity test on water? How do you know your water is high in .ca mag? Could be bicarb? Sounds like you haven't looked at all the variables here

 

[erb4all]

To me it looks like my indoor plants after I forgot to water a few times. FFOS is not hot at all but people will complain because the add nutes and burt their plants. I use ffos all the time foe seedlings never had a problem.

I've ran into PH issues with from that's it...besides the friggin gnats...lol

 

[erb4all]

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Is that lights off, room light on? If that is grow light. Those plants look funny...too much food not enough light, maybe?

 

[Novaracer69]

I've ran into PH issues with from that's it...besides the friggin gnats...lol

Organic soil need to stay moist or the salinity goes us with less water concentration. Is you have a problem with fungus Nats Do Not try to dry them out you will be hurting you plant. BTI works great on fungus Nats

 

[RealFarmer]

Flush them and hit them with a half strength feed and some cal mag.

 

[euphoriaup]

I've ran into PH issues with from that's it...besides the friggin gnats...lol

Nats? I have no fungus nata but referring to your water question the water tests very high for calcium and manganese.

 

[Captspaulding]

Looks good and I’ll definitely move the lights further up, I’m a little worried about adding any Nutrients but if you are all saying hey add some nutrients I’ll pick some good stuff up later today.

They could stand to have a snack.

 

[Captspaulding]

Nats? I have no fungus nata but referring to your water question the water tests very high for calcium and manganese.

That’s a good thing.
Them minerals are rad for the ladies.

 

[Captspaulding]

" 6.0 to 6.8" Also thats a very high fluctuation. Keep in mind that below 6 unwanted metals like alumina can be absorved by the plant, toxic for the plant and toxic for you and its in your soil. I would try to keep it at 6,5 or close in all of them.
6,2 veg, 6,5 flower in soil. If youre growing 100% organic you can go to 7ph, the microorganisms will poop the food for the plants, still I use 6,5 in full organic for a bit of a faster intake.

Bro legit, this is an interesting one.
Could go either way buddy,

 

[Natep]

Haha. This is exactly why I switched to living organic. This synthetic stuff is to much.

 

[erb4all]

Nats? I have no fungus nata but referring to your water question the water tests very high for calcium and manganese.

Manganese isn't good for ruminate animals...Not sure about humans...unless you meant mg.

What form of .ca is it high in?

 

[Eledin]

Manganese isn't good for ruminate animals...Not sure about humans...unless you meant mg.

What form of .ca is it high in?

Usually manganese is not high enough to even be mentioned but it can be the case that his water tested relatively high for manganese. Still if its manganese and not magnessium, I doubt there's a lot.