Wilting Grow Tips In Evening

[NoVC01]

Photo isn't necessary but if needed I'll post.

Ppfd is 500, plants are 51 days out, PH 6.2, temp 78F. Every evening about two hours before lights out my growtips wilt. In the morning they are up and happy. Happens wet or dry. What's going on? Can it be fixed? Is it just part of lifecycle?

 

[Bobcat.Branch]

Photo isn't necessary but if needed I'll post.

Ppfd is 500, plants are 51 days out, PH 6.2, temp 78F. Every evening about two hours before lights out my growtips wilt. In the morning they are up and happy. Happens wet or dry. What's going on? Can it be fixed? Is it just part of lifecycle?

If that's your only issue....

They're getting ready for bed...

 

[Grownsince95]

It's called nyctinasty. Just part of the natural circadian rhythms of the plant.

 

[Gmix]

Your ph is strange it’s neither coir or soil ph levels what medium are you using

If that's your only issue....

They're getting ready for bed...

sounds about right

 

[NoVC01]

Your ph is strange it’s neither coir or soil ph levels what medium are you using

sounds about right

Soil! PH level my choice this grow. Better a little sweet then acidic.

 

[NoVC01]

It's called nyctinasty. Just part of the natural circadian rhythms of the plant.

TY for "nyctinasty"

 

[NoVC01]

Thanks All! I suspected it was normal. He'll I have a dawn/dusk feature on my controller and actually thought about setting dusk to two hours and mimic a "sunset". Again thanks

 

[Bobcat.Branch]

Soil! PH level my choice this grow. Better a little sweet then acidic.

For soil, that's more acidic than sweet... 6.2 going in, or runoff?

 

[NoVC01]

For soil, that's more acidic than sweet... 6.2 going in, or runoff?

BB I Just adjusted the PH in the garden. What goes in comes out. Was 6.1 in, 5.9 out before adjustment. My garden is happy, only issue is them wanting to go to sleep before bedtime. I am not ready to water for runoff yet.

 

[NoVC01]

Bobcat you're absolutely right. So locked into 6.0 being the sweet spot I automatically think anything below is acidic and above sweet.

What PH level do you grow at?

 

[Bobcat.Branch]

Bobcat you're absolutely right. So locked into 6.0 being the sweet spot I automatically think anything below is acidic and above sweet.

What PH level do you grow at?

Generally, soil would be 6.0 to 7.0

I'm back into soil this year after going hydro for several years... I pH my water to 6.5 - 6.6 if it isn't already there. My water comes right out the ground via a very clean spring (10-15ppm) and usually is 6.8 to 7, but when it rains our holding tank can drop to 6.5 or 6.6 temporarily.

I'm not checking runoff pH unless I suspect something is afoul.

 

[Gmix]

Soil! PH level my choice this grow. Better a little sweet then acidic.

That’s actually more acidic than the recommended ph for soil

It should fall somewhere between 6.5-7

You can grow at lower ph lvls however it’s not optimal

All depending on what your feeding the soils could be buffering the ph anyway

Whichever way it’s no big deal it’s your grow & only you can decide what you want to do

 

[NoVC01]

Generally, soil would be 6.0 to 7.0

I'm back into soil this year after going hydro for several years... I pH my water to 6.5 - 6.6 if it isn't already there. My water comes right out the ground via a very clean spring (10-15ppm) and usually is 6.8 to 7, but when it rains our holding tank can drop to 6.5 or 6.6 temporarily.

I'm not checking runoff pH unless I suspect something is afoul.

TY makes me rethink my level. I start with filtered well water. Pretty consistent 7.7. Always room for improvement.

 

[NoVC01]

That’s actually more acidic than the recommended ph for soil

It should fall somewhere between 6.5-7

You can grow at lower ph lvls however it’s not optimal

All depending on what your feeding the soils could be buffering the ph anyway

Whichever way it’s no big deal it’s your grow & only you can decide what you want to do

I posted a chart up top pretty much what I've followed forever. I have noticed people moving towards 7.0. I recently had an issue with a plant at 6.8. Took her down to 6.1. She's happy! Sometimes they just come out of it and you don't know why

 

[Bobcat.Branch]

I posted a chart up top pretty much what I've followed forever. I have noticed people moving towards 7.0. I recently had an issue with a plant at 6.8. Took her down to 6.1. She's happy! Sometimes they just come out of it and you don't know why

May I introduce an X factor?

How accurate is your pH meter?

 

[NoVC01]

Close enough!

 

[BB22]

I hear some folks say that messing with PH in soil is waste of time. Buffers ? What’s a buffer?

 

[Bobcat.Branch]

I hear some folks say that messing with PH in soil is waste of time. Buffers ? What’s a buffer?

Depends on your soil and water I guess. Back in the 90s nobody considered it at all for most home grows. You bought your dirt, mixed in your organics, watered from the tap, and then went on about your day. The day I went hydro was the day I started overthinking.

 

[NoVC01]

Depends on your soil and water I guess. Back in the 90s nobody considered it at all for most home grows. You bought your dirt, mixed in your organics, watered from the tap, and then went on about your day. The day I went hydro was the day I started overthinking.

The MiracleGro days!

 

[Bobcat.Branch]

The MiracleGro days!

I didn't even touch that shit in 1994!