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Alright, hmm but what about humidity levels? Is it okay to lower the humidity to 40-50% while the auto's are finishing , but then raise it back up to like 60% when they are done, to go back to the ideal levels that the Photoperiods still want? Will the...
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Alright, hmm but what about humidity levels?

Is it okay to lower the humidity to 40-50% while the auto's are finishing , but then raise it back up to like 60% when they are done, to go back to the ideal levels that the Photoperiods still want?

Will the photo be affected by the lower humidity levels temporarily?
when you have a plant past flowering stretch i would just suggest you try having the humidity around 50% or below to prevent mold with the biggest colas.

seedling, plants in veg, and plants during flowering stretch won't care that much about rh to grow healthy and vigorous, ambient rh is just fine for them could it be 20% or 80% rh.

think about outdoor across the whole growing season, humidity vary all the time on a daily basis, day by day and across the season and plants grow just fine like that.
 
I will agree that veg and flower that humidity is less important but I do not think a seedling at 25% rh is going to progress at a rate most growers will be happy with
Specially auto growers. Without leaves and roots high humidity is what germinates and gives moisture to the plant.
In veg and during stretch very low humidity can result in a plant that over transpires causing nutrients imbalance especially in non organic grows.
I have read this scenario a few times in journals. You see 2 growers in coco. One guy is burning at 600ppm and one guy has plants loving it at 850 ppm. If the issue is not roots it is almost always enviroment where the guy burning at 600 have a too high vdp due to too low humidity. The super high transpire rate pull nutes up at too high a rate.
This is not something I myself have had happen but there is a lot of information in diaries where you see the same actions taken to solve the same problems over and over.
 
I will agree that veg and flower that humidity is less important but I do not think a seedling at 25% rh is going to progress at a rate most growers will be happy with
soil grower here

over the years growing i have had seedling, plant in veg and plant during flowering stretch having either 20% or 80% rh or anything in between never noticed a difference in growth vigor due to rh, my observation with soil is proper watering pratice is bazilion time more important than rh for experiencing an healthy and vigorous growth on start up.

i have photo of each grow, but i just can tell wich is wich so much they look the all same in term of growth vigor and while i m monitoring rh and knowing i experienced those condition for long enough period of time at different stage of growth i m not keeping track of it in my diaries.
 
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when you have a plant past flowering stretch i would just suggest you try having the humidity around 50% or below to prevent mold with the biggest colas.

seedling, plants in veg, and plants during flowering stretch won't care that much about rh to grow healthy and vigorous, ambient rh is just fine for them could it be 20% or 80% rh.

think about outdoor across the whole growing season, humidity vary all the time on a daily basis, day by day and across the season and plants grow just fine like that.
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Most phenos got more or less some malformation and discoloration with their leaves on start up.
4 first weeks of veg, two phenos were showing what could be a viroid like TMV or genetic issue with some of the fan of the leaves.
But may be they are healing now, most of the new growth seem to no longer showing sign.

Few phenotypes seem to be more leaning toward sativa than the others.
Overall not really homogeneous.Different shade of green amongst phenotypes.
One pheno with whorled phyllotaxy with main cola that self divided in two near the top, two other phenos also have some secondary branches that self divided in two.

overall some on them already starting fading and not as healthy as i'd like for this stage.


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beautiful ladies my friend. i dont think you have much to worry about at all.

there are a lot of mosaic viruses that can infect cannabis ime, a lot more then just TMV. Most are bordeline completely harmless, and some are even desirable because of the way it expresses physical traits and forces eye catching variegation in ornamental cultivars of plant.

Tbh, i chuckle with how quickly and willingly people are to toss around the letters TMV. Most of you guys will never even see that virus lol.

TMV is usually almost always fatal if it gets on a plant it can actually infect. Most cannabis plants wont actually even catch it when exposed, though. Especially if thriving and doesnt have a heaviily inbred genealogy giving it an easy, wide open back door to the plant. Cannabis is not tmv's preferred species lol. Just like you probably wont find hemp russet mites on your tomatoes, even though its possible. Theyre probably tomato russets if theyre on your tomato plants.

My plants all caught a mosiac virus from a variegated golden rod hedge line last year. Caused some skunk-stripe chlorosis on a few plants for a few weaks, couple twisted growths, ran its course and disappeared. The only thing i am absolutely, 100% sure of, is that it was not tobacco mosaic.

The vast majority of mosaics will actually run their course and go away if the plant is in thrive mode. Just because theres some vaqriagation, chlopropsis, or twisting doesnt mean its TMV, its actually very unlikely that it is, tbh. TMV will run a young, or early flowering plant into the ground headfirst, itll wrap itself up like its playing twister, pretty quickly, and then itll probably die. By this point, any of your directly related plants are probably also playing "twister to death" right in front of you lol. TMV is like russet mites. Its a shut things down, clean, disinfect, start over kind of thing, or youll be struggling with it on and off forever if you actually catch it, and have susceptible lineages youd like to keep growing if you dont.

Some mosaics will sit dormant in a plant, then express some chlorosis or skunk striping occasionally if they slip out of thrive mode a bit. My mango nectar does that. She has some kind of mosaic that only expresses if she drifts out of thrive mode. My other plants are either totally asymptomatic, or completely immune to it all together.

If TMV was the only mosic virus, it wouldnt be called tobacco mosaic, it would just be called mosaic lol. Ime its one of the least common mosaics cannabis catches, just one of the most damaging when it does. Ive nly ever seen legit TMV on plants inbred to the point of a single expression within the entire genotype. Plants with total and complete genetic segregation. But thats an evolutionary dead end that only exists to fuel profit margins though anyway, so to be expected.

im 99% sure there is a cannabis specific mosaic virus now though too, and most of us have seen it more then once, and went about our business because it doesnt actually cause problems for us. Just a skunk stipe or variegated leaf here and there. viruses prefer not to kill their host, that tends to only happen right when something jumps ship to a new species. The pandemic was a great example. ach recurring strain that out competes the old is more contagious, but less lethal. Thats what makes a successful virus. Easily infected, but causing as little damage as possible to the host organism.


imho, if tmv is even still a thing anymore, its only going to hurt highly gene segregated plants, which imho should have NO place in a gene pool thats becoming very threatened by disease anyway, for obvious reasons that will probably start to validate themselves heavily over the next decade or two.
 
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when you have a plant past flowering stretch i would just suggest you try having the humidity around 50% or below to prevent mold with the biggest colas.

seedling, plants in veg, and plants during flowering stretch won't care that much about rh to grow healthy and vigorous, ambient rh is just fine for them could it be 20% or 80% rh.

think about outdoor across the whole growing season, humidity vary all the time on a daily basis, day by day and across the season and plants grow just fine like that.
(None of this is a poke at ya or anything, just one of my many rambles)


RH and temp swings indoors cause way more damage than outdoors because they happen a helluva lot faster, and with greater extremes in a smaller amount of time. A plant;s transpiration rates, and stomata closing/opening cant properly keep up with that like it can outside. Micro climates form in grow spaces, and the leaf temp can sometimes be 15f cooler just 6" further from the light then the top cola leafs. So not only do they have to have quicker reaction times indoors, they need to be able to respond accordingly to different environments on different parts of the plants.

I would suggest not lowering to flowering RH until like a week after the stretch to avoid transpiration issues from a plant rapidly expending through a microclimate.

Personally i dont focus on keeping RH low, until the first stacking phase is wll underway and stretch is a thing of the past. And i still get a bit of transpiration stress on my highest fan leaves. I havent even monitored it directly unless i had a problem in like a decade. Little bit of fan leaf transpiration stress is worth keeping the rest of the canopy in the goldilocks zone for sure. is what it is

And if your temps exceed 82f you need to be closer to 60% RH in flower iirc, maybe even higher, otherwise youre going to end up with tip and margin burn that you will probably misidentify as something else if not familiar. Cannabis will flower fine at 90f if you can keep humidity up around 70% with adequate airflow etc. This is why greenhouses dont kill plants lol.

I believe all the new kids on the block wrap this entire concept up neatly with the abbreviation: VPD

When things are dialed in detail, even transpiration rates, i have plants that can take close to 2000ppfd no problem at all too.

(funny side note, half the growers on this site, if i actually posted pictures of the transpiration stress and asked about it *pretending i didnt know what it was simply by default and watching symptoms progress a little*, would start arguing amongst each other about whether or not its nutrient burn or my light being too close 🤣 🤣 🤣 .... but im also slightly confrontational by nature dealing with those wrapped up in the Dunning Kruger effect., so have chosen not to) Backing the light off is a bandaid, humidifying your lung room is a cure.
 
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beautiful ladies my friend. i dont think you have much to worry about at all.

there are a lot of mosaic viruses that can infect cannabis ime, a lot more then just TMV. Most are bordeline completely harmless, and some are even desirable because of the way it expresses physical traits and forces eye catching variegation in ornamental cultivars of plant.

Tbh, i chuckle with how quickly and willingly people are to toss around the letters TMV. Most of you guys will never even see that virus lol.

TMV is usually almost always fatal if it gets on a plant it can actually infect. Most cannabis plants wont actually even catch it when exposed, though. Especially if thriving and doesnt have a heaviily inbred genealogy giving it an easy, wide open back door to the plant. Cannabis is not tmv's preferred species lol. Just like you probably wont find hemp russet mites on your tomatoes, even though its possible. Theyre probably tomato russets if theyre on your tomato plants.

My plants all caught a mosiac virus from a variegated golden rod hedge line last year. Caused some skunk-stripe chlorosis on a few plants for a few weaks, couple twisted growths, ran its course and disappeared. The only thing i am absolutely, 100% sure of, is that it was not tobacco mosaic.

The vast majority of mosaics will actually run their course and go away if the plant is in thrive mode. Just because theres some vaqriagation, chlopropsis, or twisting doesnt mean its TMV, its actually very unlikely that it is, tbh. TMV will run a young, or early flowering plant into the ground headfirst, itll wrap itself up like its playing twister, pretty quickly, and then itll probably die. By this point, any of your directly related plants are probably also playing "twister to death" right in front of you lol. TMV is like russet mites. Its a shut things down, clean, disinfect, start over kind of thing, or youll be struggling with it on and off forever if you actually catch it, and have susceptible lineages youd like to keep growing if you dont.

Some mosaics will sit dormant in a plant, then express some chlorosis or skunk striping occasionally if they slip out of thrive mode a bit. My mango nectar does that. She has some kind of mosaic that only expresses if she drifts out of thrive mode. My other plants are either totally asymptomatic, or completely immune to it all together.

If TMV was the only mosic virus, it wouldnt be called tobacco mosaic, it would just be called mosaic lol. Ime its one of the least common mosaics cannabis catches, just one of the most damaging when it does. Ive nly ever seen legit TMV on plants inbred to the point of a single expression within the entire genotype. Plants with total and complete genetic segregation. But thats an evolutionary dead end that only exists to fuel profit margins though anyway, so to be expected.

im 99% sure there is a cannabis specific mosaic virus now though too, and most of us have seen it more then once, and went about our business because it doesnt actually cause problems for us. Just a skunk stipe or variegated leaf here and there. viruses prefer not to kill their host, that tends to only happen right when something jumps ship to a new species. The pandemic was a great example. ach recurring strain that out competes the old is more contagious, but less lethal. Thats what makes a successful virus. Easily infected, but causing as little damage as possible to the host organism.


imho, if tmv is even still a thing anymore, its only going to hurt highly gene segregated plants, which imho should have NO place in a gene pool thats becoming very threatened by disease anyway, for obvious reasons that will probably start to validate themselves heavily over the next decade or two.

I've always assumed the various mosaics hit plants like the herpes virus hits people. Ugly visible symptoms and maybe the occasional inflammation, but you'll live just fine with it. Oh, and breeding is off the table, lol.
 
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