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[ChairmanFester]

Yes it can be made at home I believe they even provide instructions to make your own, I run the Big 6, build a bloom, kashi, Pushin-P, craft blend rice hulls, FPF all from build a bloom, it’s all I used the whole run, love it all I’ve never ran the build a veg but I do a lot of chop and drop of clover and buff up the nitrogen through multiple cycles of cover crop, just started the new round a few days ago all planted and some coming up already

I actual just bottled up 4 banana peels with 2 cups of water and 2 tbs of honey, ill double it up today or tomorrow when the wife makes smoothies

Fermented banana peels

I might save up for the combo and actually do a diary. Do the tests and homework in a text file. $72 ain't all bad to dive into a complete system but it's a savings target too. Gotta sell some wood!

I'm thinking of reversing my airflow too. I don't need to filter out and positive pressure might be preferable to negative.

 

[AmandaRollins420]

@AmandaRollins420 works at a commercial facility that uses living soil and both led and hps lighting. She may be able to share some insightful wisdom as well

@AmandaRollins420 works at a commercial facility that uses living soil and both led and hps lighting. She may be able to share some insightful wisdom as well

Hey Mike,
thanks for laying out your honest thoughts. I feel you on the "buzzword" overload – it's easy to get lost in the hype when you're looking at amendments.
As someone who's deep into the living soil approach, I tend to look at products like BuildAVeg with a critical eye, too. Some of the marketing terms do raise an eyebrow:

• "Marine Periodic Elements": I'd want to know specifically what elements are present and in what amounts. Is it truly a full spectrum, or just a few trace minerals?
• "Vegan Non-GMO Soy Aminos": The "vegan" label doesn't really mean much in this context, aminos are aminos, regardless of origin.
• "Freeze Dried": What does it actually do for the availability of the product, is there any data on that?
• Fulvic boost": What kind of fulvic are in the product, and is it real?

For me, the most important thing is the quality and availability of the inputs and what kind of science backs up the product.
You're right that a lot of these ingredients can be sourced and mixed yourself, that being said you're gonna have to do a lot more digging yourself to even attempt to produce the kind of products they are making. At times it can be good to see which product is working for you.

Ultimately, it comes down to whether the convenience and purported benefits justify the cost for you. I'd encourage reaching out to the company and asking for more specifics about the ingredients and the science behind their claims. If they can provide solid answers, it might be worth a try. If not, your instincts are probably right.

 

[donkanaille94]

 

[Florida_Mike]

Hey Mike,
thanks for laying out your honest thoughts. I feel you on the "buzzword" overload – it's easy to get lost in the hype when you're looking at amendments.
As someone who's deep into the living soil approach, I tend to look at products like BuildAVeg with a critical eye, too. Some of the marketing terms do raise an eyebrow:

• "Marine Periodic Elements": I'd want to know specifically what elements are present and in what amounts. Is it truly a full spectrum, or just a few trace minerals?
• "Vegan Non-GMO Soy Aminos": The "vegan" label doesn't really mean much in this context, aminos are aminos, regardless of origin.
• "Freeze Dried": What does it actually do for the availability of the product, is there any data on that?
• Fulvic boost": What kind of fulvic are in the product, and is it real?

For me, the most important thing is the quality and availability of the inputs and what kind of science backs up the product.
You're right that a lot of these ingredients can be sourced and mixed yourself, that being said you're gonna have to do a lot more digging yourself to even attempt to produce the kind of products they are making. At times it can be good to see which product is working for you.

Ultimately, it comes down to whether the convenience and purported benefits justify the cost for you. I'd encourage reaching out to the company and asking for more specifics about the ingredients and the science behind their claims. If they can provide solid answers, it might be worth a try. If not, your instincts are probably right.

Great answer. The OP wasn't me though, it was @ChairmanFester

 

[figolus]

Maybe you got another Mysterious Garlic Bulb plant lol... those chemtrails are doin shit. Imagine though a huge heavy flower on top and almost nothing else looking like a freak Morel mushroom. You could put 25 in a well built 2x2x2 and stack those grow pods.

I imagined more, 3 branches per floor with big buds rather than a mushroom head

 

[NisterMice]

You're right that a lot of these ingredients can be sourced and mixed yourself, that being said you're gonna have to do a lot more digging yourself to even attempt to produce the kind of products they are making

That's a great point! I looked into creating selfmade "all-in-one" soil mixes and it requires a wide range of components. You can find what you need online as well, but you might end up with way more than you need.

 

[closettrapper217]

I have a Golden Tiger...mostly stativa...that's been flowering for 3 weeks....I noticed the top half of the plant had shot out sets of 3 leaves instead of 5. Is this a normal phenomenon for stativa plants going into flower? Would you know?

This is a horrible example but my lights are off right now in the tent lol but some of my sativas doe weird leaf things like this only at the top

 

[Crazyformes]

This is a horrible example but my lights are off right now in the tent lol but some of my sativas doe weird leaf things like this only at the top

Okay....so I guess this is normal. I just thought it was odd....also the leaves have an odd texture....they arent resin sticky, but velcro sticky.

 

[Crazyformes]

Okay....so I guess this is normal. I just thought it was odd....also the leaves have an odd texture....they arent resin sticky, but velcro sticky.

 

[Florida_Mike]

Uncertainty: 0.05 — High confidence in this answer based on current botanical science.


The “velcro-like hairs” on cannabis leaves are called trichomes, and more specifically, the type you're referring to are likely cystolithic hairs or non-glandular trichomes.

There are 2 main types of trichomes:

1. Glandular Trichomes
   • These are the resin factories — they produce cannabinoids (like THC, CBD), terpenes, and flavonoids.
   • They look like tiny mushrooms under a microscope.
   • Mostly found on buds and sugar leaves.
2. Non-Glandular Trichomes (the velcro-like ones)
   • These are sharp, stiff hairs that don’t secrete resin.
   • Found mostly on fan leaves and stems.
   • Function like a physical defense mechanism — similar to cactus spines or stinging nettle hairs.

 

[Mikedin]

I might save up for the combo and actually do a diary. Do the tests and homework in a text file. $72 ain't all bad to dive into a complete system but it's a savings target too. Gotta sell some wood!

I'm thinking of reversing my airflow too. I don't need to filter out and positive pressure might be preferable to negative.

It’s a good mix they have, I used the dominion blend limited edition blend (2nd batch) each 30 gallon started with 2 bags dominion and 1 bag light recipe mixed, I planted into that and amended for flower (diddnt need to but I’m keepin that soil packed with goodness) plus probably near 80 worms In each bib, started with 30 red wigglers and 30 European nightcrawlers in each 30 gallon and if you dig in you’ll get handfuls of worms, and that’s only about 4 months old now, but I also bought all the items listed above I did use build a flower at flip but I used it all, so this run I’m playing with teas,

Fermented banana peels (basically FFJ) i do plan to make a full fruit batch (this is for outdoor) for once the plants start flower


GROK


Fermented Fruit Juice (FFJ) in Korean Natural Farming (KNF) offers specific benefits for marijuana plants, particularly during their flowering and fruiting (bud development) stages. Below is a concise overview of its advantages, tailored to cannabis cultivation, based on KNF principles and general horticultural knowledge:


1. Enhanced Bud Development: FFJ, made from ripe fruits like bananas, mangoes, or berries, is rich in potassium, phosphorus, and natural enzymes that promote robust flowering. It supports larger, denser, and more resinous buds, improving yield and quality.


2. Improved Terpene and Cannabinoid Profiles: The sugars and bioactive compounds in FFJ can enhance the production of terpenes and cannabinoids, leading to better aroma, flavor, and potency in marijuana buds. Using fruits with high sugar content, like grapes or pineapples, can amplify these effects.


3. Boosted Nutrient Absorption: The fermentation process makes nutrients more bioavailable, allowing marijuana plants to efficiently uptake essential minerals. This supports vigorous growth and helps prevent nutrient deficiencies during the demanding flowering phase.


4. Increased Soil Microbial Activity: FFJ introduces beneficial microorganisms to the soil, fostering a healthy root zone. This enhances nutrient cycling and supports mycorrhizal fungi, which are critical for cannabis root health and nutrient uptake.


5. Natural Pest and Disease Resistance: When used as a foliar spray, FFJ formulations (e.g., made with citrus peels) can deter pests like spider mites or aphids due to compounds like limonene. It also strengthens plant immunity, reducing susceptibility to fungal issues like powdery mildew, common in cannabis.


6. Stress Resilience: The enzymes and growth-promoting compounds in FFJ help marijuana plants cope with environmental stresses, such as temperature fluctuations or water stress, which is crucial during the sensitive flowering stage.


7. Organic and Sustainable: FFJ aligns with organic cannabis cultivation by using natural, locally sourced ingredients (fruits and brown sugar). This reduces reliance on synthetic fertilizers, promoting eco-friendly growing practices.


Application for Marijuana:


• Dilution: Mix FFJ at 1:500 to 1:1000 with non-chlorinated water for foliar sprays or soil drenches. Apply weekly during the flowering stage (typically weeks 3–8 of bloom).


• Timing: Use FFJ primarily during the reproductive phase to avoid excessive vegetative growth. Avoid overuse in the vegetative stage, as it may cause nutrient imbalances.


• Fruit Selection: Choose fruits high in potassium (e.g., bananas) or sugars (e.g., mangoes) to match cannabis’s needs during bud formation.


• Precautions: Ensure proper ventilation when using foliar sprays to prevent mold in dense cannabis canopies. Test FFJ on a small area first to avoid phytotoxicity.


Note: Always use pesticide-free fruits for FFJ preparation and store the solution in a cool, dark place (up to 12 months). Follow local regulations for cannabis cultivation, as practices vary.


If you need a recipe for FFJ, specific dilution ratios, or tips for integrating it into a KNF regimen for cannabis, let me know!

 

[ChairmanFester]

AmandaRollins420 is on point. The cost is having vats of shit to mix at will. I have saved seafood shells to boil out. The roses like them and dear old mom refuses any nutrients in a bottle so this works. We do a balanced meals system so it's in the rotation enough. I will chatgpt up an email request for nutrient details .

That's a great point! I looked into creating selfmade "all-in-one" soil mixes and it requires a wide range of components. You can find what you need online as well, but you might end up with way more than you need.

 

[ChairmanFester]

Mikedin I grok. It's sometimes simply paraphrasing in a more convenient way but it saves time. I gotta dig out my alexa lol.

 

[NisterMice]

Just fired up my old portable Arizer vape from 2014. Bulky brick, but reliable like a tank. Smoked a tiny bowl of the avb after vaping with 195c for a bit and it hits really nice. Clean as snow and high af

 

[Florida_Mike]

If anyone is interested,

Here's a prompt I learned from a tech article & now use for 'GPT. So far, the answers seem cleaner and hallucinations seem to be much fewer:

"Before you answer my questions, scour the web and assess the uncertainty of your response. If it’s greater than 0.1, ask me clarifying questions until the uncertainty is 0.1 or lower”


with gpt, you have to remind it of this rule now and then.

 

[Grownsince95]

Happy weekend

Took them out for some fresh air and a trim.

The F-Bomb f2 is looking sad. I was convinced she had mites because of the top leaves but zero. Idk she's a beast structure wise, the way she's stacking really long branchy buds is cool compared to all the stem on the sherbet. She's way too much of a pain in the ass defol wise. I just wish she were happy.

 

[Florida_Mike]

It’s a good mix they have, I used the dominion blend limited edition blend (2nd batch) each 30 gallon started with 2 bags dominion and 1 bag light recipe mixed, I planted into that and amended for flower (diddnt need to but I’m keepin that soil packed with goodness) plus probably near 80 worms In each bib, started with 30 red wigglers and 30 European nightcrawlers in each 30 gallon and if you dig in you’ll get handfuls of worms, and that’s only about 4 months old now, but I also bought all the items listed above I did use build a flower at flip but I used it all, so this run I’m playing with teas,

Fermented banana peels (basically FFJ) i do plan to make a full fruit batch (this is for outdoor) for once the plants start flower


GROK


Fermented Fruit Juice (FFJ) in Korean Natural Farming (KNF) offers specific benefits for marijuana plants, particularly during their flowering and fruiting (bud development) stages. Below is a concise overview of its advantages, tailored to cannabis cultivation, based on KNF principles and general horticultural knowledge:


1. Enhanced Bud Development: FFJ, made from ripe fruits like bananas, mangoes, or berries, is rich in potassium, phosphorus, and natural enzymes that promote robust flowering. It supports larger, denser, and more resinous buds, improving yield and quality.


2. Improved Terpene and Cannabinoid Profiles: The sugars and bioactive compounds in FFJ can enhance the production of terpenes and cannabinoids, leading to better aroma, flavor, and potency in marijuana buds. Using fruits with high sugar content, like grapes or pineapples, can amplify these effects.


3. Boosted Nutrient Absorption: The fermentation process makes nutrients more bioavailable, allowing marijuana plants to efficiently uptake essential minerals. This supports vigorous growth and helps prevent nutrient deficiencies during the demanding flowering phase.


4. Increased Soil Microbial Activity: FFJ introduces beneficial microorganisms to the soil, fostering a healthy root zone. This enhances nutrient cycling and supports mycorrhizal fungi, which are critical for cannabis root health and nutrient uptake.


5. Natural Pest and Disease Resistance: When used as a foliar spray, FFJ formulations (e.g., made with citrus peels) can deter pests like spider mites or aphids due to compounds like limonene. It also strengthens plant immunity, reducing susceptibility to fungal issues like powdery mildew, common in cannabis.


6. Stress Resilience: The enzymes and growth-promoting compounds in FFJ help marijuana plants cope with environmental stresses, such as temperature fluctuations or water stress, which is crucial during the sensitive flowering stage.


7. Organic and Sustainable: FFJ aligns with organic cannabis cultivation by using natural, locally sourced ingredients (fruits and brown sugar). This reduces reliance on synthetic fertilizers, promoting eco-friendly growing practices.


Application for Marijuana:


• Dilution: Mix FFJ at 1:500 to 1:1000 with non-chlorinated water for foliar sprays or soil drenches. Apply weekly during the flowering stage (typically weeks 3–8 of bloom).


• Timing: Use FFJ primarily during the reproductive phase to avoid excessive vegetative growth. Avoid overuse in the vegetative stage, as it may cause nutrient imbalances.


• Fruit Selection: Choose fruits high in potassium (e.g., bananas) or sugars (e.g., mangoes) to match cannabis’s needs during bud formation.


• Precautions: Ensure proper ventilation when using foliar sprays to prevent mold in dense cannabis canopies. Test FFJ on a small area first to avoid phytotoxicity.


Note: Always use pesticide-free fruits for FFJ preparation and store the solution in a cool, dark place (up to 12 months). Follow local regulations for cannabis cultivation, as practices vary.


If you need a recipe for FFJ, specific dilution ratios, or tips for integrating it into a KNF regimen for cannabis, let me know!

Bookmarked just in case I ever decide to go to "The Dark Side" lmao

 

[Florida_Mike]

This is a horrible example but my lights are off right now in the tent lol but some of my sativas doe weird leaf things like this only at the top

My big Hash Plants had some really long, super thin blades at the end. I've never seen them quite like that before.

 

[ChairmanFester]

Did you know if you as a helpful person are to move a shelf, and you tape mark agreed upon squares to be occupied by the feet of said shelf after you measure it 3x and talk about how the measurements make you feel, then you move said shelf across an entire ranch house both floors... "THAT'S NOT WHERE THAT GOES!!!".
Huh. Imagine that.

 

[Florida_Mike]

Happy weekend

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Took them out for some fresh air and a trim.

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The F-Bomb f2 is looking sad. I was convinced she had mites because of the top leaves but zero. Idk she's a beast structure wise, the way she's stacking really long branchy buds is cool compared to all the stem on the sherbet. She's way too much of a pain in the ass defol wise. I just wish she were happy.

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The leaves curling is prolly a combination of heat/light stress and soggy feet.

Raise the light 6" and turn it down 10%. Make sure to allow proper dry back.


Looking pretty fn good overall though , nice work!