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Well you where 30 years a programer and i was 15 years a cannabis grower and that cant be 4.5kg. plants taller than me in outdoor get around those numbers...
I dont remember insulting you but if you feel insulted i apologise
Let me confirm. This is a tiny plant as far as height is concerned. I realize that you are comparing your possible weight compared to buds on an outdoor plant. These ain't those.

Your plant is not providing you with three cubic feet of solid bud. This plant is.
 
Well you where 30 years a programer and i was 15 years a cannabis grower and that cant be 4.5kg. plants taller than me in outdoor get around those numbers...
I dont remember insulting you but if you feel insulted i apologise
Also, next tidbit.

I'm sure that Amnesia Haze is the cornerstone of this type of growth. This plant is a spawn of Amnesia Haze and some type of lemon. The key issue is Amnesia Haze is highly sensitive to hormonal manipulation when flowering. It's one of the plants used for these types of studies.
 
Next tidbit about me. What do I do with all this weed? 99% of it gets boiled in MCT oil. I rub it on my body for my joints but at that point I can be helpful.

I have an open Next Door post for anybody in pain. Arthritis, shingles, broken bones that have healed poorly over years, I don't care and I don't qualify. If you say you're in pain message me and I will give you a jar of cannabis oil to rub on your joints. If you find it's helpful, I'll give you some more, enough to last you whatever it takes for you to harvest your first plant. It's up to you to get your medical license and start building a grow room and I will help you.

I have several people that I am currently helping and I expect many more. I told my doctor I'm the Candyman. I sang a bit to her. She's the Candyman but she charges. I'm the Candyman but I'm free.
 
"I promise to be nice" my goodness. I'll be here till harvest. I've seen 1000's of plants and none like this, so interesting, and that's the plant and yourself.
Thanks for the comment but I have a problem. I don't know when I'll harvest. I can't harvest it at once. It would be illegal. I'm only allowed a pound.

So you can expect a very interesting step-by-step pictorial as I document picking a branch off.

I will separate out the individual buds and we'll see them for the first time individually. Shared experiences are nice.

But then what? Will this be hashish or will this be boiled in MCT oil?

If it's MCT oil, no cure is required. You will never know how much that weighs. I'll do an overnight dehydrate in the multi shelf dehydrator and then I'll run it through a food processor and then I will boil it in MCT oil. The first extract of that is essentially the maximum the oil can carry. A tablespoon of that under your tongue will cause you to hallucinate.

That's not the goal, but it's an excellent starting point for later dilution for joint rub oil.

I'll then do additional boils with additional oil for further extracts but keep that separate for a lesser strength formulation.

And that's where my Candyman materials come from.

But now it's time for play. For concentration without chemicals of any sort.

Take a silk screen that you would use to make t-shirts. Cut and appropriate hole in a cardboard box. Hot glue it to the bottom of the box.

Find a source of dry ice. I got fishing towns surrounding me so there's lots of dry ice here.

Take whatever I consider the best/ easily curable pieces. Hang, cure whatever is appropriate for air flow. Keep it in a dark closet in perfect indirect wind flow with perfect humidity. Yeah I got that.

I also have my wood drying closet for my woodworking projects when I take the outside wood to the inside for a month or two to get that moisture level balanced.

After appropriate hang/cure, slowly, taste testing every few days, choose the moment it's right.

Scissor up large chunks into smaller chunks. Don't go too crazy. The next step will take care of it.

Toss chunks of butt and dry ice into box with silk screen on bottom. Stand over glass table. A big glass table. Four times the size of the box.

Turn the music on loudly and start dancing. Shake shake shake come shake your booty. Shake that box back and forth. As the dry ice disappears. Throw more in. Golf ball size chunks are the best.

The coldness of the dry ice will cause the the trichones to simply drop off the leaf material and fall through the silk screen. That's it. The weight of the dry ice will smash the buds around and that will cause them to do the final crumble and you'll be left with nothing but bone dry plant material on the top when you're done.

5 minutes later glance at the table. Grab a plasterers scraper. Gather. Shit yourself. Go holy fuck. I didn't know that could happen.

You got a bunch of trichones. And yes, get used to me spelling it that way because I'm not fixing the fucking dictate every time it does it.

What will you do with them? In the old days it simply meant you had some extra kief to sprinkle on top of your bud. Those days are over.

Wrap in parchment paper. Wrap a cloth around that, a strong cloth.

Set up a couple of steel plates or boards or whatever it takes in a bench press. Place wrapped bundle inside and start squeezing. Open, flip, close, squeeze. Keep flipping angles and keep squeezing that fucker.

After a minute or two you're done. You'll have a block of hash. Real hash. Not the shit they sell in stores. Not extract. No chemicals. Absolute bare minimum amount of weight for maximum amount of THC to maintain your legal plant material level. While maintaining all the terpenes and all the flavor.

Yeah, I think I know what I'm doing here.

Who out there remembers real hash from the '70s? You can't get that now. Unless you make it.

So anyway, I may never harvest it. I may leave a bit of it growing just to keep it around for historical purposes. But it's a medical plant and I have to track the legality of its use very carefully.

I think I'll do Thai stick next. Real Thai stick. And yes, I'll figure out how to get a legal opium dip. Thai is jungle sativa weed. That's the type of weed I expect to do best in this process. I'm going to try all types of jungle sativa weeds to determine. The testing shall go on. It is always time to test.
 
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Maybe it's just me. Maybe I'm easily amused.

I have to decide how much more I want versus how much work. I want it to go on forever just to see what can happen. But that can't happen. Can it?

The green picture is the real color. I have to vary around the camera angle just to be able to catch those wavelengths and filter out the others. Keep that in mind.

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Damn yep thatd do it for me too. Luckily here in NZ we dont have too many pesky bacterium's like other places. No Lymes disease etc
No deer ticks here. This is my neck of the woods.



I'm two 2 houses away from a State Forest.

You have to wind for a 12 minutes of tight twisty up and down forested hills off the main road to get to my tiny neighborhood.

Yet I'm 20 minutes from a wonderful touristy beach town (which includes majors such as Costco etc) and 40 minutes from a jumping hot spot town. In the other direction, 30 minutes from the port side arts / shipbuilding colony that's existed since the 1800s.

A tiny neighborhood. With its own tiny little airstrip. I don't trust those little planes, but they're fun to watch. So its a wonderful ride.

I am six houses to the cliff overlooking the beach to The straits of Juan de fuca which is 60 ft down. I can get to that beach by walking, but I prefer my electric bike.

The mountains create a shield which creates an area which is called the blue spot. My town is the blue spot that they see from above because it's the edge of the ocean and the land and the clouds part in a circle where the mountains keep them blown apart so they can look down and see the sea there.

I thought Washington weather was terrible. I was wrong.
 
Well you where 30 years a programer and i was 15 years a cannabis grower and that cant be 4.5kg. plants taller than me in outdoor get around those numbers...
I dont remember insulting you but if you feel insulted i apologise
Pulling a Scotty

Under promise and over deliver. I want to do that whenever possible. I hate vaporware. I hate wasted time spent on other people's promises. It sucks. I don't want to suck.

I have reported to my elder brother under a corporate structure at one point in my life. We did not own the company. I already had my established career and reputation as a programmer and we were creating data warehouses and we were inventing stuff on the fly.

This was before Linux.

He was management and salescum and I was the geek who had to create whatever he thought up.

Oh yeah, that 2008 housing crisis and global market crash? That was us. Sorry about that. Like I said, I'm down on karma points.

Whenever I'd hit a roadblock of whatever we were creating, he would simply wave his hands and say handle it. I would list whatever I'm dealing with and whatever resources I needed and I'd stop whining and I'd go deal with it.

Whenever that happened he called it pulling a Scotty. He told me I overreacted and the problem wasn't that bad and I was just generating issues so I could pull a Scotty and save the day.

Fuck you very much.

So I have a general viewpoint of what I can do versus what I'll promise other people versus what I'm comfortable committing to and then I come up with whatever it is and then I cut it by ⅔. Whatever the time or cost or effort, I should allow for 2/3 of fuck around time. Fuck around cost. Fuck around effort.

Sure, I could probably pull it off in the short amount of time, but that's a stretch goal, and I should probably allow myself the full amount of time. Either way, I should be fine.

Then the boss throws 10 other projects at me at the same moment and I do stupid things like actually pull them all off at the same time. I didn't get any fuck around time. Fuck!

And whenever you voice that there may be a problem with anything they just say handle it and stop trying to pull a Scotty.

Scotty here.

I have no clue what this plant will produce. I can't pretend to truly calculate.

I have to go on cubic feet estimates and what this would shred down to versus what other people who harvest it in bulk might shred down to versus the fact that this is all top bud. It's not harvesting hemp. Then I have to juggle that around and go “Go holy shit. It can't possibly be that much!” I am fantasizing way too high and people will just laugh at me. So then I cut it and I cut it some more.

That's where I got the 10 lb from. Feel free to estimate based on what you see.
 
Tough to watch this poor plant tortured like this.
You think it hurts?

You have no idea how painful this is.

This is gut-wrenching.

And that's before I take into account my fucking hips are dislocating (bones shoving out the base of my ass while I attempt to shove them back in, tendons wrapping around whatever the fuck hooks in there) and my lower back is spasming like a mother fucker trying to hold it all together and not let it happen. The oxycodone does not touch it.

I'm in a bitchy mood here, let me bitch.

Should I lay on my back and reach up for an hour with my elbow and hair leaning in muddy cat shit? How about I try to crouch on a stool reaching in the middle at the wrong angle at all times? How about trying to lean overhead and when the spasm hits try not to fall over and crush the plant? I built those railings for me, sure they'll hold up a few hundred lb of lights, but will they hold me when I fall hard on them?

When I take my pictures I decide if I can walk the extra 2 ft to get a slightly different angle and then I say nah it's not worth it.

Who the hell watches a plant grow? Me. Obviously people out there want to see it as well. It changes everyday. Sometimes a lot.

Every time I work a branch it can take me an hour. I'm listening to the music and counting the songs from when I started. Most songs are between 3 and 4 minutes. 10 to 20 songs is the norm. I always tell myself I can handle another song.

That branch visually doubles in size immediately. But when you think in terms of three-dimensional volume, that's at least four times as much. And that becomes just the beginning of the fill-in and becoming pretty. And then it becomes rock solid. And then it grows an inch out from there in the next 3 days. While filling in with more branches internally that I can pull out on that next round.

Visually it looks the same in the pictures because the edges grow out and give more space for me to fill in. You just have to see that the number of buds across increase dramatically each time.

I can only do a couple a day and by the time I get back to one it's screaming to be done again. If I wait too long the buds mature and lock in. When they do that they lock in the growth behind them. They'll be wonderful but I don't want that to happen. I want them ALL to keep growing.

Before I work the branch it is nice looking.

Bud filled curvy leaves, everything facing in a symmetrical fashion. The constant 360° lights cause 100% curved fill-in up to the point it decides it doesn't need to anymore (it hit maximum usable light, it doesn't bother growing in that direction) and then it creates vertical faces which are flat that meet at edges of light intersections.

I end up with packed rectangular branches. It is unique. It is the ultimate topiary and I don't even try.

It is an amazing assortment of colors under standard lighting but when the bright lights hit it, it glows ugly brilliant yellow which makes it look like it's dying. That hurts but I don't look at it like that.

I take pictures of it and put it up on my 7-ft television. I scroll all around and zoom in. It pleases the eyes. It drives up my dopamine. It's fucking gorgeous. I gaze in adoration.

After I work it, the branch is a jumble of damaged chaos. I hate looking at it. It is entropy in its worst form. Lost potential. It hurts my fucking head.

It's a horrible decision when I go into work on a branch. Because I'm destroying the buds that currently exist. I have no idea how much I'm truly losing at that moment, but that stuff is crumbling in my fingers.

Those trichones are getting blown away in the wind. I am tearing leaves all over the place and those leaves are unrolled buds which means they are the best leaves in the world.

I occasionally snap off a bud by accident and go. Oh well, I get to smoke you. One time I snapped a full branch. That sucked. That was gut-wrenching. I screamed loudly.

I'm going to cause some stagnation based on whatever damage I do and this might be the time when it doesn't recover.

There might come a point where these buds say "You have harmed me too much, I'm going to die now."

I have no idea.

So how about somebody else choosing which branch to do next?

Should it be lower Big Fucking Arm (which one, and keep in mind the ripple effect when they touch across the bottom or the sides or the tops of each), middle pair (which grouping, I have to do them at the same time because they all meet), or single upper cola? One of those colas is half the size of the other because I've been ignoring it.

Because it's ALL cola.
 
Good morning sunshine

Check out the column bud. It has multiple levels where you can see I broke them apart. Every couple of inches. It gets wider with firm definition. Within each of those layers are hundreds of flowers. It takes anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes just to run through those two inches because I have to get everything surrounding to free up all the space.

Note: one of these pictures presents as a double but it doesn't show up in edit mode. Sorry about that

I've covered the bottom in blackout curtains. It makes for a better picture and I won't be laying cat shit directly. It still will soak through.

Those bottom buds should give me another 6 in down if I really worked it.
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Okay, 2 hours of work on my back. A bit from above. Four branches. The larger ones if there's a concept like that here.

No music. If I have music I start to go with the music and then things snap easier. Oh well.

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Your bud looks terrible, foxtailed leafy, wispy and burnt.
It's not hard to do this with loads of stress but the end result are less than desirable.

Truth is it sucks, sorry to say and I'd never aim for that because it's ditch weed at best.
 
Your bud looks terrible, foxtailed leafy, wispy and burnt.
It's not hard to do this with loads of stress but the end result are less than desirable.

Truth is it sucks, sorry to say and I'd never aim for that because it's ditch weed at best.
I'm going to make an assumption. You sell weed for a living? You care what it looks like? You got to pitch something pretty to customers? I'll just stop now.

Don't care what it looks like. Went into a full explanation of why it's not foxtails. Won't bother responding to you unless you read that explanation and prove it because let's face it, the information's already been posted.

I really enjoy it when people say weed looks bad from pictures. Weed is an interactive experience. Not something you pitch on a billboard.
 
I'm going to make an assumption. You sell weed for a living? You care what it looks like? You got to pitch something pretty to customers? I'll just stop now.

Don't care what it looks like. Went into a full explanation of why it's not foxtails. Won't bother responding to you unless you read that explanation and prove it because let's face it, the information's already been posted.

I really enjoy it when people say weed looks bad from pictures. Weed is an interactive experience. Not something you pitch on a billboard.
Honestly I only care about the trichs and their density.

What you've done is well known about and documented before.

Some sensibility please, it's suffered heat death, some of the bud has even fallen dead from the branches.

Scientifically all those compounds and burnt bits from stress will reduce any interaction experience.

I feel I'm not being unfair or rude to point this out.
 
Honestly I only care about the trichs and their density.

What you've done is well known about and documented before.

Some sensibility please, it's suffered heat death, some of the bud has even fallen dead from the branches.

Scientifically all those compounds and burnt bits from stress will reduce any interaction experience.

I feel I'm not being unfair or rude to point this out.
Thank you.

Okay. I have a serious post that I could be constructing called Brown is beautiful. It represents new growth.

I never cared about pictures before. People have refocused me. It's put up or shut up. I'm good with that.

Brown represents new growth. There will be a burst of growth after brown. Brown represents whatever the plant uses to encapsulate whatever the baby clusters are and then when they're ready to push out the brown falls off.

Brown does not represent dryness or death. Basically, everything feels like a cluster of grapes to me. Trichones show up after about a day. Anything without merely means it's really new growth or they've been brushed off because I'm wiggling those buds in my fingers. I have pulled the lights back a bit because I managed to extend everything so it is a bit less drier than before.
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So I'll whip up something to go piece by piece with a few pictures. But here's just what showed it to me. I didn't realize it until today.
 
Thank you.

Okay. I have a serious post that I could be constructing called Brown is beautiful. It represents new growth.

I never cared about pictures before. People have refocused me. It's put up or shut up. I'm good with that.

Brown represents new growth. There will be a burst of growth after brown. Brown represents whatever the plant uses to encapsulate whatever the baby clusters are and then when they're ready to push out the brown falls off.

Brown does not represent dryness or death. Basically, everything feels like a cluster of grapes to me. Trichones show up after about a day. Anything without merely means it's really new growth or they've been brushed off because I'm wiggling those buds in my fingers. I have pulled the lights back a bit because I managed to extend everything so it is a bit less drier than before. View attachment 2513503View attachment 2513504View attachment 2513505

So I'll whip up something to go piece by piece with a few pictures. But here's just what showed it to me. I didn't realize it until today.
The worst part is because you can't grow you now use excuses.

I'm off clearly you and your plants have incurable issues!
 
Thank you.

Okay. I have a serious post that I could be constructing called Brown is beautiful. It represents new growth.

I never cared about pictures before. People have refocused me. It's put up or shut up. I'm good with that.

Brown represents new growth. There will be a burst of growth after brown. Brown represents whatever the plant uses to encapsulate whatever the baby clusters are and then when they're ready to push out the brown falls off.

Brown does not represent dryness or death. Basically, everything feels like a cluster of grapes to me. Trichones show up after about a day. Anything without merely means it's really new growth or they've been brushed off because I'm wiggling those buds in my fingers. I have pulled the lights back a bit because I managed to extend everything so it is a bit less drier than before. View attachment 2513503View attachment 2513504View attachment 2513505

So I'll whip up something to go piece by piece with a few pictures. But here's just what showed it to me. I didn't realize it until today.
Bro, brown represents botritus.
There’s webbing of mold in that.
I promise you.
Bud rot is not good.
 
Bro, brown represents botritus.
There’s webbing of mold in that.
I promise you.
Bud rot is not good.
Thank you. I accept the possibility.

Here comes the ozone and the UVC. I used to create create sterile rooms for mushrooms. No problem.
 
Bro, brown represents botritus.
There’s webbing of mold in that.
I promise you.
Bud rot is not good.
And here is what I posted on nextdoor as I pursue what you've told me:
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I'm looking for a botanist.

Someone who can identify mold and fungus on plants. Someone who can advise me on environmental setup and testing. Someone who can travel to Diamond Point because this plant is not moving.

This is for a health check. I don't think there's anything wrong. But I want a professional observation and advice.

I'm willing to pay or barter, you never know what I have that you might want.

Anybody care to take me up on this?
 
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