Hi there, new, showing off my plant

[TestTime]

When you look at it under the bright lights, you can pretty much always see through it. So you get a feeling of less density.

Simple flash.

Does this one feel different?

 

[TestTime]

Next tidbit. Because I appreciate it. Someone thinking deeply about it and describing various root issues.

Overdevelop the roots. Keep in mind I'm just giving you the specifics of what happened here and I'm going to make some assumptions. I don't care if they're right or wrong, cargo cult programming to duplicate to start off with.

This plant was a runt. I kept it in a 9-in high skinny bag. Everybody else in the room grew just fine, but this plant just stayed stunted.

I didn't consider worth transplanting when I moved the rest of the room to the larger bags. Everybody got three full months of vegetation.

Everybody in the room except for the runt got topped many times, depending on how well they were doing.

I say everybody in the room, because I moved the runt out of the room and stuck it into a lower light closet next to my tomato plant. I put it in a jug of water and ignored it for 2 months.

So then it had 2 months of mediocre light and it just hung out with its root stripping water and the roots grew and grew.

This gave a phenomenal transplanting start. I have never seen Roots like this except for an hydroponic system and I don't do hydroponics cuz I like dirt. Dirt is forgiven. Hydroponics is too fragile for me. Too. Scary.

I had just harvested an autoflower out of the room. I'm not sure which one. There was rotten Roots in a bag in a bin. It was 4 months of growth combined with whatever new nutrients were there which is just the random stuff like I posted before. I keep it organic and I use filtered water.

So at that point there was rotting roots from the previous plant combined with all the nutrients. That I'd slammed into that plant on the tail end of the final month and then I never give them nutrients on the final month. I want them to consume.

The room was about to go into flower. So at that moment I took the runt that had the huge dripping drooping Roots and I transplanted it into the newly available used bag/bin.

To I topped it for the first time at that point. What the fuck.

I gave it 2 days for the roots to acclimate and then I flipped the lights.

I'd say cat shit showed up about a month later but I'm not sure. I just know I noticed it had better green growth than anything in the room and I wasn't feeding it. The cat was.

You see the pictures from then.

 

[DrDankHands]

That’s a fascinating breakdown, and honestly, I think the “latency” analogy you made earlier ties perfectly into what you just described about root development. You essentially removed the early vegetative latency, the bottleneck where most plants are scrambling to establish roots and canopy at the same time. By sidelining that runt into a low-light, low-demand environment but letting the roots keep expanding, you shifted the whole system’s sequencing. So when you finally transplanted, you had a plant that had “pre-loaded” the foundation and could immediately push biomass once given light. That’s pure systems-architect thinking: decouple phases, overbuild capacity where it’s cheap (roots), then unleash it when the bottleneck moves.

The addition of decomposing roots from the previous grow is also fascinating, you basically handed it a microbially primed buffet. Rotting roots are a huge source of carbon, signaling molecules, and food for opportunistic microbes. Combine that with the cat’s inputs (a constant slow-release nitrogen and phosphorus source, plus who knows what else in the gut biome), and you didn’t just feed the plant, you probably created an unusually diverse soil food web that kept “self-tuning” without you dosing. Dirt forgiving indeed, it’s like you hacked redundancy into the system.

I think you’re right that light penetration is the current hard limit. Your idea of embedding LED strips inside the canopy is elegant in its simplicity. It turns the canopy from a flat receiver into a 3D matrix. The challenge will be heat dissipation and making sure the inner microclimate doesn’t swing out of control, but in theory that would erase the bottleneck you’ve identified.

On the molecular biology side, I get your pragmatism about not needing to know the why, but here’s the interesting part: the overbuilt root system likely activated hormonal feedback loops (cytokinins from roots, auxin balances in shoots) that kept pushing new growth instead of senescence. It’s not just a “cargo cult repeat” there’s a biochemical logic underneath that could eventually help stabilize or even breed for this kind of prolonged productivity without it being a one-off fluke.

And I think you’re right: if this kind of approach scales, it could seriously disrupt commercial cannabis. Most of the industry is tuned for turnover and predictable cycles. A system that grows for 9+ months, keeps throwing biomass, and thrives off “waste inputs” like decomposing roots and pet byproducts would flatten their margins. Even if it’s not efficient yet, the proof of concept alone forces people to re-imagine what’s possible.

Also I’d love for you to check out my grow diary sometime. I’m coming at it from the other side: instead of pioneering chaos, I’m building highly efficient micro-environments with automation, CO₂, microbes, and very deliberate inputs. Different banks of the same rocky stream, maybe. I think we’d both get a kick out of comparing notes.

One thing I’d love to hear your take on: given your philosophy of bottlenecks and latency, do you think there’s a point where overbuilding roots could backfire? For example, could too much root mass eventually outpace what the canopy can metabolize, triggering imbalances or stress signals? Or do you see the redundancy always working in your favor as long as the system is kept forgiving?

 

[Appalachian]

Hey Test Time, have you sampled that monster? I'm curious about the terpene production with it being like that. How much amber and how dark it would get or if its mostly milky. I'm an indica fan myself, don't really like the uplifting anxiety of most sativa. I'm an old school farmer and use methods most people don't also.

 

[TestTime]

Anticipation. Delay the dopamine. It only builds more. More dopamine is better. Build some more while waiting for more dopamine.

Delayed gratification was probably the most important thing I ever learned in my life. Then again I've probably said that phrase many times so I guess I've had many lessons.

Empathy is the only thing that allows society and humanity to survive while simultaneously being damaging to the individual.

Not all individuals. Above average individuals. It doesn't matter at what level. By definition. If you have empathy, you will give up your resources for somebody else.

If you don't have empathy, you'll spend your life trying to manipulate the world to figure out how to gain more resources from anybody.

You might pretend to care about your genetic spawn but you don't really. You have to put on the act. If you don't put on the act you can't con the people around you. So you will put on the act.

I was a self-made sociopath. I was quite proud of that. Empathy? Who the fuck would be stupid enough to act that way?

There are predators and prey. Which one do I want to be?

If you hadn't thought about this, then you're already prey.

When I was 18 I volunteered at a crisis hotline. I took the training for months. I role-played on how to deal with people who were suicidal.

I loved my puppies and kittens and there were no sociopathic tendencies at that point. Just the ability to judge the situation and react as I feel appropriate.

Then I took a phone call my first night. I didn't catch the fact that someone had a gun under their pillow as I was counseling. The person monitoring the phone call had to intercede and take over because I was about to kill that person. My interaction with them could cause them at that moment to just say fuck it and kill themselves.

That was my responsibility?

Fuck That Shit.

That's way too painful. I will never think like that again.

Poof!

Instant sociopath. Perfectly logical interaction for 27 years.

And then I found MDMA.

Fun. Fun.

BANG!

What the fuck!?!?!??

Empathy?

This shit sucks. This is the most painful shit I have ever experienced in my life and this shit does not go away.

How do I make it better?

Make other people happy. Their happiness is my happiness.

Watch out for sociopaths manipulating you.

They're everywhere. You are the prey. And you don't know it.

Within that thought process.

Is this post part of a sociopath manipulating a crowd?

I'm not trustable. No one is.

The only person I trust is my wife and the only people I'll tell the absolute truth to are my wife, my doctor and my lawyer. I won't lie directly but I might misdirect to the rest of you.

Only the admin knows for sure because he can see the internal site back channel communications.

You should probably always keep that in mind.

Anticipation……. it's making me wait…..

Oh, I'm sorry, did you want a picture?

Enjoy

Oh, don't give me any shit about colors. I get 3,000 w you get 3,000 w.

 

[Florida_Mike]

Anticipation. Delay the dopamine. It only builds more. More dopamine is better. Build some more while waiting for more dopamine.

Delayed gratification was probably the most important thing I ever learned in my life. Then again I've probably said that phrase many times so I guess I've had many lessons.

Empathy is the only thing that allows society and humanity to survive while simultaneously being damaging to the individual.

Not all individuals. Above average individuals. It doesn't matter at what level. By definition. If you have empathy, you will give up your resources for somebody else.

If you don't have empathy, you'll spend your life trying to manipulate the world to figure out how to gain more resources from anybody.

You might pretend to care about your genetic spawn but you don't really. You have to put on the act. If you don't put on the act you can't con the people around you. So you will put on the act.

I was a self-made sociopath. I was quite proud of that. Empathy? Who the fuck would be stupid enough to act that way?

There are predators and prey. Which one do I want to be?

If you hadn't thought about this, then you're already prey.

When I was 18 I volunteered at a crisis hotline. I took the training for months. I role-played on how to deal with people who were suicidal.

I loved my puppies and kittens and there were no sociopathic tendencies at that point. Just the ability to judge the situation and react as I feel appropriate.

Then I took a phone call my first night. I didn't catch the fact that someone had a gun under their pillow as I was counseling. The person monitoring the phone call had to intercede and take over because I was about to kill that person. My interaction with them could cause them at that moment to just say fuck it and kill themselves.

That was my responsibility?

Fuck That Shit.

That's way too painful. I will never think like that again.

Poof!

Instant sociopath. Perfectly logical interaction for 27 years.

And then I found MDMA.

Fun. Fun.

BANG!

What the fuck!?!?!??

Empathy?

This shit sucks. This is the most painful shit I have ever experienced in my life and this shit does not go away.

How do I make it better?

Make other people happy. Their happiness is my happiness.

Watch out for sociopaths manipulating you.

They're everywhere. You are the prey. And you don't know it.

Within that thought process.

Is this post part of a sociopath manipulating a crowd?

I'm not trustable. No one is.

The only person I trust is my wife and the only people I'll tell the absolute truth to are my wife, my doctor and my lawyer. I won't lie directly but I might misdirect to the rest of you.

Only the admin knows for sure because he can see the internal site back channel communications.

You should probably always keep that in mind.

Anticipation……. it's making me wait…..

Oh, I'm sorry, did you want a picture?

Enjoy

Oh, don't give me any shit about colors. I get 3,000 w you get 3,000 w.

View attachment 2519005View attachment 2519006

Behold the BEAST!!!

 

[TestTime]

Hey Test Time, have you sampled that monster? I'm curious about the terpene production with it being like that. How much amber and how dark it would get or if its mostly milky. I'm an indica fan myself, don't really like the uplifting anxiety of most sativa. I'm an old school farmer and use methods most people don't also.

How does it smoke?

Wonderful for me but I'm not sure about it for you or anybody else. It is what I consider an early harvest, I call the high “light bright”.

I shake a few grams of trichomes off it every time I unroll it and they land on plastic along with a whole bunch of hemispheric half capsules which are totally covered with trichomes. That compresses into amazing hashish for me.

The actual buds occasionally break off as I unroll them and I let them dry on the tray overnight and I cut them up and I smoke them. I use a straight pipe. I don't like the taste of paper even though I'm a regular smoker, when I smoke, I smoke menthol which basically destroys my sense of taste and the anesthetizes my mouth for a moment when I smoke regular cigarettes, but I'm incredibly sensitive to harshness in weed and this stuff is smooth.

I have a volcano vaporizer. I know how to vaporize and I know exact temperatures for various terpenes and THC and what levels I need to get for just decarboxylization. I don't want to do any of that.

I just want to crumble it into my brand new pipe and smoke it. I grew a very nice assortment of fruity flavors which you can see in pictures above. So I let those all go to various stages of early harvest and then I grabbed those. I love them and I love the stuff I'm cutting off this plant. I fucking love them all.

It gives me about 20 minutes of intense cerebral high, you see my occasional posts when I'm thinking about stuff, but then it calms out and then gives me about 4 hours of pain relief

This is actually my preferred high. I can't buy it at the store. They let the weed go too long and it moves to what I consider couch lock but is probably exactly what you are looking for. I want dopamine and energy. With pain relief.

So it's up to you if you want to do it like this and then turn it into a real schedule and let it mature over the course of a month, which I just assumed and I have no fucking clue.

That's not the target goal for this grow. That's a side effect. I know that the plant at this stage of development extracts very well into MCT oil which I rub on my joints. My wife's currently got a broken foot and she is in agony without it.

Did I answer?

 

[TestTime]

Behold the BEAST!!!

Now I have to give them 3 or 4 days before I can do it again. It takes about that amount of time for a bud tip to split. Remember, they grow fractally. There is always more.

But if I do it too early, I damage the top and then while it's still awesome and will keep growing, it will not split into more.

Also, all those tops have been shortened. Every time I find a top that is growing more than the others I grab and spin and twist and rip it apart. I push it down. I push it sideways. That top has anywhere from 4 to 16 side branches and enmeshed and I want to rip them apart and let them grow freely.

I want to utilize bottom space. I want to push everything growing down because it's going to try to grow back up. Then it'll curve around the sides and make it wider. At the same time I have to shove anything long enough on the top to the side to the side to give the tendrils on the top more room to grow.

So the top gets shorter every time I do that while the bottom gets longer, a lot longer.

I love seeing the light through the buds where I can finally see the branch. That means I have separation and free growing from the branch rather than twisting with the bud right next to it. The bases of the buds are almost always fully in enmeshed but any separation I can get is good because it lets air and light therr. Also, while there is no complete solid bud internally, or at least as little as I can leave behind when I rip it apart, or at least that's my goal to allow for full air flow through it, there will be a point of total solidity and I will have to harvest or it will go moldy.

At least those are more of my assumptions.

 

[TestTime]

That’s a fascinating breakdown, and honestly, I think the “latency” analogy you made earlier ties perfectly into what you just described about root development. You essentially removed the early vegetative latency, the bottleneck where most plants are scrambling to establish roots and canopy at the same time. By sidelining that runt into a low-light, low-demand environment but letting the roots keep expanding, you shifted the whole system’s sequencing. So when you finally transplanted, you had a plant that had “pre-loaded” the foundation and could immediately push biomass once given light. That’s pure systems-architect thinking: decouple phases, overbuild capacity where it’s cheap (roots), then unleash it when the bottleneck moves.

The addition of decomposing roots from the previous grow is also fascinating, you basically handed it a microbially primed buffet. Rotting roots are a huge source of carbon, signaling molecules, and food for opportunistic microbes. Combine that with the cat’s inputs (a constant slow-release nitrogen and phosphorus source, plus who knows what else in the gut biome), and you didn’t just feed the plant, you probably created an unusually diverse soil food web that kept “self-tuning” without you dosing. Dirt forgiving indeed, it’s like you hacked redundancy into the system.

I think you’re right that light penetration is the current hard limit. Your idea of embedding LED strips inside the canopy is elegant in its simplicity. It turns the canopy from a flat receiver into a 3D matrix. The challenge will be heat dissipation and making sure the inner microclimate doesn’t swing out of control, but in theory that would erase the bottleneck you’ve identified.

On the molecular biology side, I get your pragmatism about not needing to know the why, but here’s the interesting part: the overbuilt root system likely activated hormonal feedback loops (cytokinins from roots, auxin balances in shoots) that kept pushing new growth instead of senescence. It’s not just a “cargo cult repeat” there’s a biochemical logic underneath that could eventually help stabilize or even breed for this kind of prolonged productivity without it being a one-off fluke.

And I think you’re right: if this kind of approach scales, it could seriously disrupt commercial cannabis. Most of the industry is tuned for turnover and predictable cycles. A system that grows for 9+ months, keeps throwing biomass, and thrives off “waste inputs” like decomposing roots and pet byproducts would flatten their margins. Even if it’s not efficient yet, the proof of concept alone forces people to re-imagine what’s possible.

Also I’d love for you to check out my grow diary sometime. I’m coming at it from the other side: instead of pioneering chaos, I’m building highly efficient micro-environments with automation, CO₂, microbes, and very deliberate inputs. Different banks of the same rocky stream, maybe. I think we’d both get a kick out of comparing notes.

One thing I’d love to hear your take on: given your philosophy of bottlenecks and latency, do you think there’s a point where overbuilding roots could backfire? For example, could too much root mass eventually outpace what the canopy can metabolize, triggering imbalances or stress signals? Or do you see the redundancy always working in your favor as long as the system is kept forgiving?

There will always be a catastrophic over balancing sooner or later. Expect it. Always have backup plants going. Never trust the one you got.

I will look into your grow in a bit. I have an expectation then I'm going to have to dive deep and think hard and I don't really want to do that right now.

Take care

 

[TestTime]

There will always be a catastrophic over balancing sooner or later. Expect it. Always have backup plants going. Never trust the one you got.

I will look into your grow in a bit. I have an expectation then I'm going to have to dive deep and think hard and I don't really want to do that right now.

Take care

Light tubes will be easy. We were doing real lights and tubes in the old days. I could cool 600 w in a 6-in wide tube. I certainly can cool the current highly efficient LEDs in a tiny little air tunnel. It's a matter of what materials will allow the most light to get through well simultaneously allowing the containments of the air flow. I would not trust any direct exposure.

 

[TestTime]

That’s a fascinating breakdown, and honestly, I think the “latency” analogy you made earlier ties perfectly into what you just described about root development. You essentially removed the early vegetative latency, the bottleneck where most plants are scrambling to establish roots and canopy at the same time. By sidelining that runt into a low-light, low-demand environment but letting the roots keep expanding, you shifted the whole system’s sequencing. So when you finally transplanted, you had a plant that had “pre-loaded” the foundation and could immediately push biomass once given light. That’s pure systems-architect thinking: decouple phases, overbuild capacity where it’s cheap (roots), then unleash it when the bottleneck moves.

The addition of decomposing roots from the previous grow is also fascinating, you basically handed it a microbially primed buffet. Rotting roots are a huge source of carbon, signaling molecules, and food for opportunistic microbes. Combine that with the cat’s inputs (a constant slow-release nitrogen and phosphorus source, plus who knows what else in the gut biome), and you didn’t just feed the plant, you probably created an unusually diverse soil food web that kept “self-tuning” without you dosing. Dirt forgiving indeed, it’s like you hacked redundancy into the system.

I think you’re right that light penetration is the current hard limit. Your idea of embedding LED strips inside the canopy is elegant in its simplicity. It turns the canopy from a flat receiver into a 3D matrix. The challenge will be heat dissipation and making sure the inner microclimate doesn’t swing out of control, but in theory that would erase the bottleneck you’ve identified.

On the molecular biology side, I get your pragmatism about not needing to know the why, but here’s the interesting part: the overbuilt root system likely activated hormonal feedback loops (cytokinins from roots, auxin balances in shoots) that kept pushing new growth instead of senescence. It’s not just a “cargo cult repeat” there’s a biochemical logic underneath that could eventually help stabilize or even breed for this kind of prolonged productivity without it being a one-off fluke.

And I think you’re right: if this kind of approach scales, it could seriously disrupt commercial cannabis. Most of the industry is tuned for turnover and predictable cycles. A system that grows for 9+ months, keeps throwing biomass, and thrives off “waste inputs” like decomposing roots and pet byproducts would flatten their margins. Even if it’s not efficient yet, the proof of concept alone forces people to re-imagine what’s possible.

Also I’d love for you to check out my grow diary sometime. I’m coming at it from the other side: instead of pioneering chaos, I’m building highly efficient micro-environments with automation, CO₂, microbes, and very deliberate inputs. Different banks of the same rocky stream, maybe. I think we’d both get a kick out of comparing notes.

One thing I’d love to hear your take on: given your philosophy of bottlenecks and latency, do you think there’s a point where overbuilding roots could backfire? For example, could too much root mass eventually outpace what the canopy can metabolize, triggering imbalances or stress signals? Or do you see the redundancy always working in your favor as long as the system is kept forgiving?

Yeah I see the roots and the associated organic environment as being key. Give a buffet of 100% availability of everything it could possibly want with no concept of burn. Jam-pack that shit. Don't think about whatever it's an individually grabbing. Give it everything.

That's why I was looking into following some various organic grows here for the next time I do this. If I do it.

 

[KG1]

Light tubes will be easy. We were doing real lights and tubes in the old days. I could cool 600 w in a 6-in wide tube. I certainly can cool the current highly efficient LEDs in a tiny little air tunnel. It's a matter of what materials will allow the most light to get through well simultaneously allowing the containments of the air flow. I would not trust any direct exposure.

You can't cool a 600w in a tube, firstly light is not affected by air it passes straight through unimpeded since it has not the energy to interact with it and the actual light will be a filament burning at hundreds of degrees and is impossible to cool without extinguishing the light.

Light from the sun heats the atmosphere in-directly which is why it's colder the higher you get and closer to the sun. A sheet of glass in-between us and the sun would achieve nothing.

I hope that knowledge helps you out somewhat, thermodynamics and electromagnetic scales are pretty much a non arguable value so you can yourself see the error of thinking something like a cool tube works at any level.

Unless I've misunderstood your initial assumption.

 

[TestTime]

How does it smoke?

Wonderful for me but I'm not sure about it for you or anybody else. It is what I consider an early harvest, I call the high “light bright”.

I shake a few grams of trichomes off it every time I unroll it and they land on plastic along with a whole bunch of hemispheric half capsules which are totally covered with trichomes. That compresses into amazing hashish for me.

The actual buds occasionally break off as I unroll them and I let them dry on the tray overnight and I cut them up and I smoke them. I use a straight pipe. I don't like the taste of paper even though I'm a regular smoker, when I smoke, I smoke menthol which basically destroys my sense of taste and the anesthetizes my mouth for a moment when I smoke regular cigarettes, but I'm incredibly sensitive to harshness in weed and this stuff is smooth.

I have a volcano vaporizer. I know how to vaporize and I know exact temperatures for various terpenes and THC and what levels I need to get for just decarboxylization. I don't want to do any of that.

I just want to crumble it into my brand new pipe and smoke it. I grew a very nice assortment of fruity flavors which you can see in pictures above. So I let those all go to various stages of early harvest and then I grabbed those. I love them and I love the stuff I'm cutting off this plant. I fucking love them all.

It gives me about 20 minutes of intense cerebral high, you see my occasional posts when I'm thinking about stuff, but then it calms out and then gives me about 4 hours of pain relief

This is actually my preferred high. I can't buy it at the store. They let the weed go too long and it moves to what I consider couch lock but is probably exactly what you are looking for. I want dopamine and energy. With pain relief.

So it's up to you if you want to do it like this and then turn it into a real schedule and let it mature over the course of a month, which I just assumed and I have no fucking clue.

That's not the target goal for this grow. That's a side effect. I know that the plant at this stage of development extracts very well into MCT oil which I rub on my joints. My wife's currently got a broken foot and she is in agony without it.

Did I answer?

Some people look at shake and go. Yuck.

Not me.

 

[TestTime]

You can't cool a 600w in a tube, firstly light is not affected by air it passes straight through unimpeded since it has not the energy to interact with it and the actual light will be a filament burning at hundreds of degrees and is impossible to cool without extinguishing the light.

Coincidentally light from the sun heats the atmosphere in directly which is why it's colder the higher you get and closer to the sun. A sheet of glass in-between us and the sun would achieve nothing.

I hope that knowledge helps you out somewhat, thermodynamics and electromagnetic scales are pretty much a non arguable value so you can yourself see the error of thinking something like a cool tube works at any level.

Unless I've misunderstood your initial assumption.

He's back peering yelling at the door. Yay!

 

[KG1]

He's back peering yelling at the door. Yay!

No sorry Ive stated a physical reason why cool tubes don't cool.

I hope you might read that over and come to the same conclusion!

 

[Gmix]

Bud something isn’t right all your plants are burnt airy & crispy

No hate just can’t figure why there as bad as they are

 

[KG1]

Bud something isn’t right all your plants are burnt airy & crispy

No hate just can’t figure why there as bad as they are

His lights too close and overkill, wind speed too much, impractical methods like fertilizing with cat faeces and training methods that seemed to have left him with a 40cm plant after five or so months of growth.

Don't go there please

 

[Florida_Mike]

Now I have to give them 3 or 4 days before I can do it again. It takes about that amount of time for a bud tip to split. Remember, they grow fractally. There is always more.

But if I do it too early, I damage the top and then while it's still awesome and will keep growing, it will not split into more.

Also, all those tops have been shortened. Every time I find a top that is growing more than the others I grab and spin and twist and rip it apart. I push it down. I push it sideways. That top has anywhere from 4 to 16 side branches and enmeshed and I want to rip them apart and let them grow freely.

I want to utilize bottom space. I want to push everything growing down because it's going to try to grow back up. Then it'll curve around the sides and make it wider. At the same time I have to shove anything long enough on the top to the side to the side to give the tendrils on the top more room to grow.

So the top gets shorter every time I do that while the bottom gets longer, a lot longer.

I love seeing the light through the buds where I can finally see the branch. That means I have separation and free growing from the branch rather than twisting with the bud right next to it. The bases of the buds are almost always fully in enmeshed but any separation I can get is good because it lets air and light therr. Also, while there is no complete solid bud internally, or at least as little as I can leave behind when I rip it apart, or at least that's my goal to allow for full air flow through it, there will be a point of total solidity and I will have to harvest or it will go moldy.

At least those are more of my assumptions.

Seems to me that you are knocking the vast majority of trich's off to be able get that much hash each week off one small (in stature) plant.

IF (big if), that is the case, how many trich's are left on the smoke-able buds? It definitely doesn't look anywhere near frosty. In my experience, when trich heads are roughly knocked of, the stalks bruise and turn amber....

Shit. I'm high af and forgot where I was going with this...


Sitting here eating,
cheese and pepperoni

while
waiting
on a
homemade
pizza
pie...

Oh yeah,
rabbit holes...

This is the cool thing about
interacting w/ mad scientist/
genius types

especially now with AI,
you get hundreds
of rabbit holes
to explore.


for instance: How many trich heads in one gram of kief/hash?
Any math wizards here that can confirm these numbers?:

AI:

If we model a visible capitate-stalked head as a sphere:

• 50 µm head → ~15.3 million heads per 1 g of pure heads
• 75 µm head → ~4.5 million heads per 1 g of pure heads
• 100 µm head → ~1.9 million heads per 1 g of pure heads

Real kief/hash isn’t 100% heads. For kief at ~80% heads, numbers per 1 g of kief drop accordingly:

• 50 µm: ~12.2M
• 75 µm: ~3.6M
• 100 µm: ~1.5M

At ~60% heads purity:

• 50 µm: ~9.2M
• 75 µm: ~2.7M
• 100 µm: ~1.15M

That lines up with what your eyes see: “frosty” = lots of ~70–120 µm heads. So to make 1 gram of kief/hash, you’re generally talking ~1–12 million visible trichome heads, depending on average head size and purity.


Me again:

So between two and 24 million trichomes for your 2g hash?

Seems excessive, hey look! a SQUIRREL!

Oh, this homemade pizza pie?


SPEC-FRICKN-TACULAR!

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

The trichomes must be pretty darn ripe.

 

[KG1]

Seems to me that you are knocking the vast majority of trich's off to be able get that much hash each week off one small (in stature) plant.

IF (big if), that is the case, how many trich's are left on the smoke-able buds? It definitely doesn't look anywhere near frosty. In my experience, when trich heads are roughly knocked of, the stalks bruise and turn amber....

Shit. I'm high af and forgot where I was going with this...


Sitting here eating,
cheese and pepperoni

while
waiting
on a
homemade
pizza
pie...

Oh yeah,
rabbit holes...

This is the cool thing about
interacting w/ mad scientist/
genius types

especially now with AI,
you get hundreds
of rabbit holes
to explore.


for instance: How many trich heads in one gram of kief/hash?
Any math wizards here that can confirm these numbers?:

AI:

If we model a visible capitate-stalked head as a sphere:

• 50 µm head → ~15.3 million heads per 1 g of pure heads
• 75 µm head → ~4.5 million heads per 1 g of pure heads
• 100 µm head → ~1.9 million heads per 1 g of pure heads

Real kief/hash isn’t 100% heads. For kief at ~80% heads, numbers per 1 g of kief drop accordingly:

• 50 µm: ~12.2M
• 75 µm: ~3.6M
• 100 µm: ~1.5M

At ~60% heads purity:

• 50 µm: ~9.2M
• 75 µm: ~2.7M
• 100 µm: ~1.15M

That lines up with what your eyes see: “frosty” = lots of ~70–120 µm heads. So to make 1 gram of kief/hash, you’re generally talking ~1–12 million visible trichome heads, depending on average head size and purity.


Me again:

So between two and 24 million trichomes for your 2g hash?

Seems excessive, hey look! a SQUIRREL!

Oh, this homemade pizza pie?


SPEC-FRICKN-TACULAR!

Assuming the average yield of hash from bud is 15% that makes how many trichomes on a plant?

Can anyone count the trichs on one square millimeter of surface area on a calyx please lol?