Blackberry Moonrocks Photo Run. 4x4 Organic

[JIMKSI64]

Update
Moved 48x48 to .9 vdp with 2 plants at node 4 with internodal eruptions.
79 degrees at 70% panel at 57% tops at 16.5 k and 15.5k on smallest.

31x31 chugging along. The temp in this one varies between 80 and 77 lights on based on house temp. This one does not have any temp adder like the big tent.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Spent some time moving fans around to get some shake in the plants. Also dropped a few % off the wave with a better mix. Currently have 4 sensors in 48x48 looking for dead zones and stagnant air. That's the way we got started as the airflow I want is not happening due to the large disparity from the incoming lung room humidity and the required 69% humidity in the tent.
Anyways with some clouds forge flooding and the fans moving I got it dialed in pretty good for this early in the grow. Might have a corner staying place but the other 5 configurations were worse.
Have the sweep fans on back wall both sides. Both kick the cloudforge fog. Right side wiggles the left side plant and left fan wiggles the right side plants. Each fan missis its own side plants due to configuration of fan sweep perimeters.
That was actually fun but tedious. You can set the fan sweeps from 180 to 20 degrees and the 3 way pivot holds without slip.
I do wish it had a slower setting but meh.......

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update.
Very happy with the 3 photos in the big tent. The gelatoxgsc is really doing well with spacing that will not mean much soon.

Older BBMR doing just fine.

80 72. 78. 74.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Welp non of these indica heavy strains like 80 degrees. Even tried raising VPD to increase transperation and they still start to taco and curl at 16.5k lux. 79 they make it the whole day so 79 it is.
The problem is that the white widows absolutely like more heat and did not blink at 83 degrees during veg. Once the 48x48 starts to pump some real heat from the lights I may swap the tent heater over to the 31x31 and run it on manual mode.

Have noticed a huge difference in the strains. The BBMR is now loaded with new sucker stems on the node stems. Will get pics tomorrow.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update pics.

 

[Grownsince95]

Welp non of these indica heavy strains like 80 degrees. Even tried raising VPD to increase transperation and they still start to taco and curl at 16.5k lux. 79 they make it the whole day so 79 it is.
The problem is that the white widows absolutely like more heat and did not blink at 83 degrees during veg. Once the 48x48 starts to pump some real heat from the lights I may swap the tent heater over to the 31x31 and run it on manual mode.

Have noticed a huge difference in the strains. The BBMR is now loaded with new sucker stems on the node stems. Will get pics tomorrow.

If they are starting to curl in the heat increase the humidity/lower vpd. They are closing their stomata and trying to conserve water when they taco and avoid the light because they are either too hot (leaf surface temp) or photo saturated. Any light energy absorbed after saturation is dissipated as heat in the leaf.

So if you lower vpd and the taco continues, it's light fatigue. You can lower your DLI or do what I did and veg everything 9/3. Breaking the cycle up eliminated all my light stress issues and let's me push them hard.

 

[JIMKSI64]

If they are starting to curl in the heat increase the humidity/lower vpd. They are closing their stomata and trying to conserve water when they taco and avoid the light because they are either too hot (leaf surface temp) or photo saturated. Any light energy absorbed after saturation is dissipated as heat in the leaf.

So if you lower vpd and the taco continues, it's light fatigue. You can lower your DLI or do what I did and veg everything 9/3. Breaking the cycle up eliminated all my light stress issues and let's me push them hard.

Also add to that due to the last fan configuration VPD was not correct. I was lazy because they were small and should have gotten the fans up earlier but they were set up for later parts of a grow and were too fast to large a sweep and wrong angle.
You will notice in the diaries entry I put down specific instructions so I can return this tent to this config without a bunch of trial and error.
I was going to do some light experiments but when all but 2 of the BBMR failed and I just decided to pop the White Widows that stopped.
I have a good schedule that should have me flipping everything around the same time. WW will be smaller because of the small tents one door.
The Vivosun doors leak light a lot. Right around the zipper to wall sewing. I have sealed a bunch ( 6 ) but more appear. I do not want to have issues with light leaks and it is easy to keep the room dark but hard to stop these tent leaks.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update
Watered everybody.
The 48 tent is now big enough to do the whole top of the pot but not a huge amount. Still looking for a 2 day turn around and we are up to 400ml per plant.
31 tent still at 200 ml around seedling.
2 plants are now at node 5 showing. Most will top at this but I think I am going to wait until 6 and cut back to 3. This will give a 7 finger plant stem instead of a 5 finger.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update
Am check bit of stretch on the white widows. Bucked one up with some soil around stem.
48 tent doing fine.
The gelatoxgsc is growing well but it is not popping secondaries like the BBMR.

That is looking like a lot of maintaining will be needed.

White Widows.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update
Moved lights up a bit and 9 am showed me some stress reactions.
Reduced VPD back to .8 and will check in a few hours.

At node 5 these should not be complaining about .9 VPD and 17k at tops but they are.

Growing the same autos for 9 months in 2 grows has me forgetting these plants are not them plants.
Will adapt.......

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update
Deciding today to manifold the 2 BBMR and just pull the GXGSC over and start pulling. The BBMR has nice runs from the main stem and is ready to proceed.

The GXGSC has new growth hanging out at the main stem and is too busy making huge indica fan leafs to bother with node eruptions.

One of the many things that manifold tutorials listed was the general growth of the plant needed to be specific in presentation and able to grow quickly.
Quick growth I got but 1 of 3 does not look like a good candidate.

Looking at the pics one more time I am going to tuck some leafs and give it a day and see what the train wreck has to say.

 

[PlumberSoCal2]

I had to go and look up this strain. 30% THC is impressive for an indica leaner and should make some fine Rick Simpson oil

When I hear Moon Rocks my brain links to dipping nugs in oil and coating in tricks. Didn't know someone made a strain and named it Blue Moonrocks

 

[JIMKSI64]

Enviroment 1/2 inch above the dirt right after watering.
500ml big plants 250 ml small plants.
Been consistent on a 2 day turn but sometimes later in the day based on need.

 

[trygrowup]

Yeah in general "sativas" come from near ekvator and "indica" mostly from mountains regions not so near ekvator for most of them.

Sativa can tolerate more light and humidity in general for example. They also have different feeding needs.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update.
Received ordered lights for tents. Went with the same light my wife chose which is the viparspectre p700.

I like this little light for the following reasons.
Cheap. 34.95 on sale each I got 3.

So many uses. Fill in the canopy with a full 48x48, side lighting ( did metalwork in aviation school already know how I am making the brackets. Friction lock pivot there are holes in the light body made just perfect for it)
Seedlings and early veg in the 31x31
2 autos in the 31x31
Veg and seedlings to feed 48x48 with the 700 watt configuration.
With 3 plants in the 48x48 now I can place them in a line up the middle and train each way towards the walls. This would allow side angle lighting.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update
First step for manifold is done. Everyone got it. If the gelato lags it will get 8.

Widows jammin.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Before and after.
GelatoX Girl Scout Cookies.

Blackberry Moonrocks.

Widows jammin

Love me some white widow. My first successful grow.
In the tent that started it all.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update pics.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update.
Watered.
Everybody turned up.
WW really growing fast. It's already 5k lux above the other plants.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update
Moved VPD to .9 in 48x48.
78 degrees.
Small tent 79 vdp .8
Based in 2 week intervals ready for top dress on older plants and 5 days for younger plants.
Pics later.