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Blackberry Moonrocks Photo Run. 4x4 Organic

I had issues with getting mine to pop. I believe is was a bad batch of seeds. Germinated Malawi x NL......didnt pop....did 2 more.....didnt pop. Contacted seed distributer and they resent my order. Had no problems with them. I understand the seeds have...
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I had issues with getting mine to pop. I believe is was a bad batch of seeds. Germinated Malawi x NL......didnt pop....did 2 more.....didnt pop. Contacted seed distributer and they resent my order. Had no problems with them.
I understand the seeds have a warranty but it's totally not my style. If I have a problem with parts or service or anything I write off the company.
In any event I am going to use these failed pots with some of the White Widow and if they fail I will rethink the situation but I am not wasting any more time on these Blimburn seeds.
 
Update.
2 of the first plants to emerge are finally taking off. Both have separation between coly and 2nd set. These will be boosted up as I still have very young plants and I can not turn the lights up any.
I was able to get the seed hull off the one basket helmeted. I pulled the think out of the dirt doing it and just put it back in. It has 2 tiny green leafs starting. Doubt it will make it but it's got a shot now. Roots were bout 2 inches long and furry.
 
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Seedling dead.
I have 2 plants rocking. One is a BBMR and one is a GXGSC. 3 leafs starting. Good color.
One plant doing will. Small bit of shell hanging on a coly imo leave that alone. Last plant is in same pot and I want to move it but I want to wait till the helmet is off.
3 WW in paper towels. I am going to put those in the small tent and run the 3 or 4 whatever lives in the 4x4 or may put a WW in there.
Also it looks like I ran the seedling pots too dry and stalled them.
When I decided to run the pots for 10 days I did not expect such a huge change in the overall moisture of the pot. When I dropped some more sprouted seeds I had removed the dirt and remixed and was disheartened by how dry the soil felt. I had an idea then that the problem may be too dry. Due to this I had taken one of the pots and during the remix I had rehydrated the soil mix until it felt and smelled like a new bag of soil.
Those 2 plants came out of the dirt on day 2. The one pot I just mixed up and re watered the top a bit and then put the sprouted seeds in died off with no real growth.

Amending the start up plan on pots to include a 10 day run for gnants and a rehydrate out of the pot before dropping sprouted seeds.
Anyone following this journal do not use my experience as an input for purchasing.
Sometimes.
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Update
No action on white widow seeds yet
2 plants doing well
2 plants will become one plant very soon.

80 degrees
74%
Vdp .9 but tent trends lower. Spends most of its time at .85 vdp.
Tent 49% lights 12.5 k and 10k at seedlings.
31x31 clean and ready.

Never grew multiple strains.
31x31 will get 2 plants in 3 gal fabric pots. These will be flipped very early ( last time I vegged the WW for 6 weeks and they filled the tent and I could not service the canopy in the back due to one door on tent . I need to be able to move the plants in the 31x31 in and out or they do shitty with no trimming or cleanup of dying leafs. This caused much stress so I will not be doing that again.
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This last picture you can see the twisted leaf that the seed hull would not let go.


Decided to cull instead of risking the one plant in the pot that will grow vrs possible loosing both during transplant.
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Learning channel post

Something that I tried this last run that seems to be working out is the way I am curing my weed.
This " idea " came from me purchasing a large amount of stuff at a hydro shop and not noticing that the Boveda packs I bought were for 1 lb of pot containers.
My whole grow ain't a pound geeze.
But what I tried worked. Instead of burping the jars I put a Boveda pack in the center of a quart jar and placed 20 grams of dried buds in each side. This gave me a short 1.25 oz in each jar with a Boveda pack that is way over the requirements.
It held very steady to 62% and absorbed any humidity from deeper in the buds.

Result after month is done very nice tasting generic weed flavor that has grown to a spicy earth flavor. The lemon smell still smacks ya in the face but no lemon in the flavor.
No sign of mold and no hay smell.
 
Update
2 plants at node 3
One at node 2
White Widow still under dirt.
Nice growth on older plants can see daily. Working a 2 day water cycle on older plants but still daily micro water for seedlings.
No changes to tent specs although with weather nice the lung room is at 60 and raising to 74 is easy on the cloudforge. 2 day reservoir fill and not using the auxillary humidifier.
Still using the condensate water in the humidifier.
All 3 plants have stretchy stems even at 10k when just through the dirt and 13k quickly. Little light hogs. Glad to see it.
 
Update
One white widow has shucked head gear and getting on with it.
One more removing seed hull
Nothing yet from 5 gallon pot with ww.
3 older plants doing well
Upped and redistributed plants with 15k on older plants 13k on middle and 10k on seed for new sprouts.
Light 55%
79 degrees
74%
Watered all plants.
 
Ok 31x31 is back in the game. 2 seedlings with coly and first finger in at 78 degrees 77 % 12k on leaf tops. These are in 3 gallons and will be flipped way earlier than the older plants in t gal pots. I have still been unable to sync this tent app with the home router as I can not seem to find the 2.4 gtz setting. The auto connect button on the router does not work.

Older pots got 2nd round of Home grown and 2 cups of the root stimmy. Just 3 plants in the 48x48 and it looks like I am going to loose the last WW in the 5 gallon pot. Uncovered the hull and although it is moving it is very slow. And is just 1/2 way out of the dirt.
Big tent 55% lights 16k in pots. 79 degrees 75% vdp .8 with a 1 degree leaf offset.
 
3 plants in the 4x4 under 400 watts
2 plants in 31x31 at 300 watts.
Watered smaller plants. 100ml
 

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One thing that all the writings on Mainlining for colas really tried to ensure an understanding of how this works is the need to be able to really pound lights to ensure the long colas receive enough energy.
Here is the ppdf pattern on the light.
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As you can see the center section has a nice hot pattern that 3 mainlined 8 or 12 cola photos should fit under the inner band.
3 actually looks much easier than 4 plants as everyone would have a weak side.
The 2 plants in the 31 will have no problem with lights. I can get 75K and hurt them all across the tent at 14 inches.
And being winter heat should be no problem.
 
The one with the cube hygrometer is the GelatoxGSC
And then I do not show a plant with the sensor.
LoL
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The small one and the double photo are the BBMR
 
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Lung room at 80 and both tents matching.
31 at .8 vdp 48 tent at .9 vdp with 1 degree leaf offset.
Everyone appears to be jamin.
Have cubes in both tents so I do have ability to monitor both tents but the 31 is off line until I get off my ass and figure out the router issue. Can fully modify the 48 on app but the 31 requires pushing buttons and it's a pain.
 
Update.
Have achieved a nice 2 day watering on older plants.
Every day on small spouts in 31x31
80 and .8 in both
Pics later
 
Learning channel post.

I have some numbers to post and explain for folks modifying tents with heat and humidity modifications to both the lung room and the tent.
What I have found works for my 48x48 Vivosun el cheapo grow tent that comes with pinholes to fix before you can use it. Right where they sew the zipper.
Anyways in my tent I have found the long way what environmental changes effect positively in growing cannabis. The relationship of heat and humidity can be expressed as a vpd number. What I have found out is that cannabis is a very flexible plant that can adjust to many vpd settings but it does not like nor can it adjust to large swinge in your vdp.
If you look at a standard ACI app for controlling one of the screens you can look at is a bar graph that splits the VPD into .10 increments. It is always best to see one finger in this graph as it means your vpd over the time period your choose does not waver more than .10 meaning you have very precise control of your environment and the plant will not have any transperation issues associated with poor humidity control.
I say humidity because it is normally this environmental setting that is the easiest to control. Moving enough air with heat adding to control the VPD would be more difficult than an app controlled humidification or dehumidification for VPD control.

Lung room environmental control rules.
There are a certain bunch of rules that you must be aware of when you start changing your lung room heat and humidity settings. The first is that having a heater in the room that needs to lift the normal and expected basic temp of the lung room more than 5 degrees is going to drop your humidity bigly. I can not say home much your particular humidity will dive but I have found out the better sealed off the lung room is the more the humidity will dive down. In some cases this is beneficial but in early veg and seedling you will need a stable and high humidity in both the tent and the lung room . Ideally you will try to get within a 10 point window of what you want to see in your tent. If you want 70 in your tent and you have a cloudforge type box for humidification it can deliver a .04 wave with an external humidity from the lung room that is between 60 and 65% RH
At lower humidity levels in the tent like say 50% you will find your humidity does not track well and the wave will widen to .10 up and down. This is still fine and will not present an environmental concerns.
Very low humidity levels in the lung room make it more difficult to control the humidity add. The incoming air has such a dry content that when the humidifier shuts off the dry air steals all the humidity and the settings for the humidifier are close to maximum. The tent goes from rein forest to alpine desert humidity about every 10 seconds and the plants will not be happy. Your VPD trace can expand to .20 or even higher. You set it for 1.0 and it flips back and forth from .9 to 1.1
Sometimes you can buffer the humidity drop during the cloudforge " off " setting my modifying the " off. " Setting to deliver humidity at a 1 or 2 setting. This buffers the huge gulp of incoming air and reduces the high humidity crash to a low humidity spike.

Another rule for tents and even larger open room grows is the ability of the tent to spike humidity to the point of condensing on the tent walls just after lights out. Most tent growers have faced this and it is an excellent way to get Powdery Mildew if spores are available.
This is caused by the heat leaving the tent. Lower temps hold less water vapor so the same amount of vapor in a reduced temp will raise the humidity.
A simple raise of the duct fan 1 setting for a 1/2 hour should prevent this from happening and in most cases due to the reduced need for humidity at lights out leaving the fan on or scripting off for the whole night cycle should work without a problem.

Dehumidification in lung rooms.
This can be a pain as you will find yourself purchasing and using a substantial investment to modify humidity for less than 10% of your grow. But failing to address this part of tent growing will not very smart if you loose a substantial harvest to mold. It happens.
Dehumidifiers produce large amounts of heat and in some cases this is excess heat that will have to be dealt with. I have a 12x10 lung room and I can not run a 50 pint unit in the room. As this mostly happens in flower mid to late and I run at 75 a hot running dehumidifier is not going to work. I have a 30 pint with a condensate pump that auto dumps into the basement dump in the lung room . I also have a large 50 pint unit in the wet room of the basement that can keep the room at 40% humidity and a shuttle fan between the lung room and the rest of the basement right at floor level. It allows me to draw extra dry air into the lung room when demand hits a high spot. This fan is app controlled by the ACI app and works very well and I can always ensure a 45% RH even on rainy days in flower with high transperation plants and lights generating big heat but the lung room at 65 degrees and 40% humidity.
 
2 BBMR 1 GXGSC 2 White Widow new sprouts.
 

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