Cannot get Sour Diesel smell or taste in Maryland. Asking for advice.

[RWalla]

Hello: I love sour diesel, especially it’s pungent odor, stink and taste. I have tried to grow both regular and photo-period several feminized verities ( original sour diesel, California sour diesel, New York sour diesel, east coast sour diesel and other SD strains and cannot achieve the flavor profile that I want, not even close. Plants grow great, trichomes develop well, harvested and cured correctly, powerful, strong and good yield, yet no real sour diesel flavor or taste.
My research leads me to believe that the intense heat and humidity of Maryland summers (90s-100s) causes the changes in flavor turpene development. Is this true? Even store bought sour diesel products lack the flavor profile of the kind I got used to on the black market.
Any advice would be appreciated, especially if anyone on the east coast has grown stinky sour diesel outdoors. Thanks.

 

[Black.Jack21]

What breeders are you using? Gotta start with real sour genetics. Maybe throw a shade screen over your plants this year if you think they’re baking under sun.

 

[RWalla]

Stop buying fake disappointing genetics. I can recommend a few places. Shoot me a message if you want.

Thanks. I just assumed that the major seed companies were all good and that I could trust their descriptions as to genetic properties such as smell, taste and odor. I assumed that I must be doing something wrong or that the environment of Maryland is not suitable for the stinky sour diesel terpenes to develop.
Please let me know how/where I can obtain original sour diesel seeds that have the stinky pungent taste and smell.

 

[Grownsince95]

Thanks. I just assumed that the major seed companies were all good and that I could trust their descriptions as to genetic properties such as smell, taste and odor. I assumed that I must be doing something wrong or that the environment of Maryland is not suitable for the stinky sour diesel terpenes to develop.
Please let me know how/where I can obtain original sour diesel seeds that have the stinky pungent taste and smell.

My advice is don't click links from random strangers on the Internet that have "archive.org" or untraceable anonymous "ProtonMail" accounts.

The way you find the best seeds is to listen to enough feedback from actual growers. If 100k people say Mephisto has the best autos, that says something. Use your common sense.

As for Sour D, the original you speak of that we smoked in the 90s was a clone only cut. They've tried to recreate it in seed form but it's never the same. If you can find a "verified" AJ's cut clone you're in business but good luck with that and be prepared to pay out the ass and/or get scammed.

 

[Black.Jack21]

My advice is don't click links from random strangers on the Internet that have "archive.org" or untraceable anonymous "ProtonMail" accounts.

The way you find the best seeds is to listen to enough feedback from actual growers. If 100k people say Mephisto has the best autos, that says something. Use your common sense.

As for Sour D, the original you speak of that we smoked in the 90s was a clone only cut. They've tried to recreate it in seed form but it's never the same. If you can find a "verified" AJ's cut clone you're in business but good luck with that and be prepared to pay out the ass and/or get scammed.

Some of the real reputable more lowkey guys have seeds that are damn close. I always wonder how much nostalgia factors into our analysis.

 

[Ninjadogma]

My advice is don't click links from random strangers on the Internet that have "archive.org" or untraceable anonymous "ProtonMail" accounts.

The way you find the best seeds is to listen to enough feedback from actual growers. If 100k people say Mephisto has the best autos, that says something. Use your common sense.

As for Sour D, the original you speak of that we smoked in the 90s was a clone only cut. They've tried to recreate it in seed form but it's never the same. If you can find a "verified" AJ's cut clone you're in business but good luck with that and be prepared to pay out the ass and/or get scammed.

I think this really speaks to the challenge of pheno hunting. It's like panning for gold. Lots of great nugget phenos to be found along the way but very very few stumble on a true "mother lode" even with the most rigorous selective breeding. Then when you find it you can store it in an S1 but it's potentially not the same, there could be some genetic pinching that doesn't make it to the seed. So it's those perpetual cuts where you'll only find the true magic, and what's funny is I was noodling a thought about pheno storage services to address it. You want to guard it like it's intellectual property but if you lose it, it has zero value to anybody.

 

[Grownsince95]

I think this really speaks to the challenge of pheno hunting. It's like panning for gold. Lots of great nugget phenos to be found along the way but very very few stumble on a true "mother lode" even with the most rigorous selective breeding. Then when you find it you can store it in an S1 but it's potentially not the same, there could be some genetic pinching that doesn't make it to the seed. So it's those perpetual cuts where you'll only find the true magic, and what's funny is I was noodling a thought about pheno storage services to address it. You want to guard it like it's intellectual property but if you lose it, it has zero value to anybody.

The issue with lines dying out has always been the legality. We've had no problem keeping the same cut of Cavendish banana going for 200 years now.

The lack of knowledge new growers have about clone only strains and the fact that seed companies and random internet scammers are trying to sell legacy cuts as seeds is a dangerous combination. Cashing in on Gen X nostalgia is big business these days.

 

[GNick55]

he’s gone bye bye,.

 

[Ninjadogma]

The issue with lines dying out has always been the legality. We've had no problem keeping the same cut of Cavendish banana going for 200 years now.

The lack of knowledge new growers have about clone only strains and the fact that seed companies and random internet scammers are trying to sell legacy cuts as seeds is a dangerous combination. Cashing in on Gen X nostalgia is big business these days.

If they really wanted to cash in on that Gex X nostalgia, then where the hell can I buy my Super Elastic Bubble Plastic greenhouse?

Lol you brought up bananas and my recollection of that story was the one of extinction due to lack of genetic diversity.