4x8 tray 4000 watts?

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is 4 1000 watt lights to much to put over a 4x8 tray growing sog 24 plants?
 
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indeed. op, count on a 4x4 footprint per 1000 so 2 per 4 x 8 tray
 
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so it wuld be a waste of light tho ....adding the extra light wouldnt be worth it?
 
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adding the extra light wouldn't hurt nothing>>except your pocket book:) I think it would benefit you yield wise. 4 1000's over a 4x8 is pretty tits imo>>more light the better.
I wouldn't go using XXXL Magnums for this tho>>what hoods are you using?>>sun system super sun 2's would be ideal for this for sure:)

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3K over a 4x8 isn't unreasonable, air-cooled of coarse. GTD seems to know what's up tho...
 
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3K over a 4x8 isn't unreasonable, air-cooled of coarse. GTD seems to know what's up tho...

It's just what i would do if i was to have 4k available to put over a 4x8>>definitely over kill>>I think more light the better>>no shade spots:)

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yeah but as in over kill is that good or bad is it a reasonable investment
 
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4 would be overkill - 3 might rock pretty hard - 2 is the norm

I dont see the payoff bro - pulling 4 from my 2 light table, dont see how you could pull 8 with 4 lights in the same space
 
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yeah that is what i am wondering does ne body have any experience w this
 
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50 watts per sq ft.

4kw is overkill, imo.

2kw is perfect, with a nice hood like a XXXL.

You could squeeze 3 if you REALLLY wanted to, but even then, its more about canopy management then anything.
 
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>>of course 4k is over kill>>i will bet he will yield a lot more>>and his bud's will be a lot denser than running 3K over a 4x8>>again super sun 2's would be most applicable<<

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3k with SuperSuns, sure, cuz the foot print on those things with 1000w is so restricted, but, in my experience, more light in a smaller space doesn't equal more pot... You're restricted by sq footage.

If you have 3kw, put it over 12x4, you're going to yield a lot more impressively then you would sticking it over an 8x4.
 
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50 watts per sq ft.

4kw is overkill, imo.

2kw is perfect, with a nice hood like a XXXL.

You could squeeze 3 if you REALLLY wanted to, but even then, its more about canopy management then anything.

This.

If you want to run a reasonably efficient operation, than I'd say 2 1Ks per 4x8 area would be perfect - 66 watts/sqft is plenty in my book.

Based on you having to ask the question, I'm gonna guess you're not running a sealed setup with CO2, which is the only way I could possibly see 3 1Ks over a 4x8 being even close to worthwhile.

4 1Ks is really just ludicrous, IMO - as compared to 2 1Ks, you MIGHT get 30% more weed for at least 100% more electricity usage (don't forget about having to cool the extra 2000 watts).
 
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this is for a 4x8 table>>nothing else, as posted<<

HannaMan>>>Im glad you understand about the super suns bro:) If you can picture 4 of those inline>>he would kill it<<Yes over kill but if you have 4 lights why not use em instead of only 3:)

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This.

If you want to run a reasonably efficient operation, than I'd say 2 1Ks per 4x8 area would be perfect - 66 watts/sqft is plenty in my book.

Based on you having to ask the question, I'm gonna guess you're not running a sealed setup with CO2, which is the only way I could possibly see 3 1Ks over a 4x8 being even close to worthwhile.

4 1Ks is really just ludicrous, IMO - as compared to 2 1Ks, you MIGHT get 30% more weed for at least 100% more electricity usage (don't forget about having to cool the extra 2000 watts).

Bobby>>2 1Ks over a 4x8 is not perfect<<

im not denying that 4 is overkill>>but with out a doubt he would yield more and nug quality will be better with the 4 vs 3>>2K is not enough light for a 4x8
With 4K there would be no larf on that table:)>>Only 100% solid quality nugz
you could not achieve that with 2K>> sorry:)
>>only down side i see with the 4K over the 4x8 is the cost<<



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gtd dont you run 2 x 1k over your 4 x 8?
 
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Bobby>>2 1Ks over a 4x8 is not perfect<<

im not denying that 4 is overkill>>but with out a doubt he would yield more and nug quality will be better with the 4 vs 3>>2K is not enough light for a 4x8
With 4K there would be no larf on that table:)>>Only 100% solid quality nugz
you could not achieve that with 2K>> sorry:)
>>only down side i see with the 4K over the 4x8 is the cost<<



gtd

I dont want to start a THC WAR, but I disagree. A 1000w bulb with a nice XXXL hood is capable of filling up a 5x5 space..2xXXXL = 5x10. 4x8 is 18 sq ft less (lots of sq footage for nug)

66watts per sq ft is plenty, as mentioned above, as generally the rule of thumb is 50w p sq ft.

A lady from Humboldt used to run 6kw over (3) 8x4 trays, and would yield up to 15 #'s a harvest.

Stuffing more light into that square footage isnt going to bump your yield that significantly...

The MAX amount of watts I would run over an 8x4 tray is 3kw, and thats with the Sun System 2 hoods GTD was talking about, as they only reflect light side to side and not long.

I still vote for 2kw!
 
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Bobby>>2 1Ks over a 4x8 is not perfect<<

im not denying that 4 is overkill>>but with out a doubt he would yield more and nug quality will be better with the 4 vs 3>>2K is not enough light for a 4x8
With 4K there would be no larf on that table:)>>Only 100% solid quality nugz
you could not achieve that with 2K>> sorry:)
>>only down side i see with the 4K over the 4x8 is the cost<<



gtd

Reasonable men can agree to disagree, so we're just gonna have to do that - not doubting that more light will produce a heavier (and in most cases) better quality harvest, but the diminishing returns curve gets real steep when you start getting into the >75 watts/sqft range.

If the extra 30% of weight is worth it to the OP (and he can manage that heat in a reasonable manner and provide the necessary CO2 enrichment for the plants to be able to utilize that amount of light) for the 125% increase in his electricity bill (assuming a tiered system and ballparking it), then go for it.

EDIT: OP, run those 4 1Ks on a flip-flop over that table...........that' be niiiiiiiiice :banana1sv6:
 
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