how much are dispensaries paying for a pound?

[420king-MASSES]

Wow,I'm from there and know that market quite well. You must be talking about some young spoiled ass rich college kids at those numbers. Those prices were hard to get 3-4 years ago. I used to get 64 then 58,now I hear top notch heady indoor at 45-48.
I'm happy to be away from there and be legal med now.

ya its the suburbs in the greater spfld area with the hill towns[money money money] rite next door--you can still get those prices though if you know someone but for the average joe shmoe kind smoker for the real a grade up to 90 an 8th very strain dependent and who the person is

 

[EACH1TEACH1]

cali needs to stay in cali period. posers with poop. (not the ones who put love into it.) stop the road trips north. much appreciated. 32 fire no thanks to cali.

 

[Farmer Jon]

cali needs to stay in cali period. posers with poop. (not the ones who put love into it.) stop the road trips north. much appreciated. 32 fire no thanks to cali.

You must mean to say "quit moving to cali with sub par skillz, expect insta dank, end up with sub par herb and attempt to ditch it in my area, because my sub par dank isn't selling anymore for 4500"

Bottom line is the best flowers will fetch the best price, supply and demand.

The funny part is no was complaining when Cali was supplying the demand of most the US (along with Canada's help) with quality herbs until they decided it was time for them to get a piece. Now all these new growers are mad that they cant pass off B grade for top shelf.

I am not intending to single you out EACH1 you seem like a good dude and your skillz are not in question I am simply using your statement as a representation of the general conciseness as of late.

I live by the fruits of my labor in a real way and I have witnessed the decline in price over the past few years and have expected the battle of the best buds to begin for some time now. It hurts my pockets as well due to the fact that my flowers don't always compare to what is available. More and more smokers are either growing there own, or purchase their medicine from their favorite club (it's just simple to hit the club and find fire).

Competition is great for the consumer as far as the quality of the products available. We all need to look at the changes occurring in this industry in a different light. Find motivation in the fact that it takes top notch product to survive in this new world and run with it.
Adaptation is going to be a must...go with the flow farmers, it gets exhausting fighting the tide.
It's really all about passion and not profit after all.
FJ

 

[markscastle]

MMJ is now a rivel to viagra with sales estimated at 1.8 billion dallars a year and projections place it at almost 4 billion by 2012.I think it`s also about the Money! But it`s a free country isn`t it? If your having a hard time making a living with Cali weed hitting your market you just have to step up your game.Try buying better seed stock and put more hard work into your growing.

I am having a ruff time here in Cali myself not because of the quality I can put out but because I only got `restarted` in the seed biz just as the economy took a dump and was ripped off a half dozen times.I ended up homeless. But I`m going to own a piece of the market before this is over and a new property to live on! It won`t be easy but I still beleave that being honest and working hard pays off(also helps to have a ton of genetics to work with). Did I cry about my problems? Yes like a baby,but now I`m setting my nose to the grind stone so watch out!

 

[GanjaGardener]

Farmer Jon and markcastle-

:yes:yes
Thank you!! Reading your posts just kicked off my day.

 

[turtle_bud]

cali needs to stay in cali period. posers with poop. (not the ones who put love into it.) stop the road trips north. much appreciated. 32 fire no thanks to cali.

I'm guessing this was directed towards me. Washington is just as close to me as southern cali. And I'm from WA. They are also med legal. I know that it is illegal to transport meds from one med state to another. But most growers from northern cali whom I know transport a lot to other states that have no med status. I invested all my money and had people willing to drive down to cali and drive it back for more money then I could have got in southern cali. What would you do flat out broke with people willing to drive to you cus they know it's bomb.

Dispenseries in washington have people who hold med cards in WA, OR, and CA. They actually hire people to drive down to cali to pick it up and bring it back. I didn't do any illegal transporting and they guy I handed it to had a legal 215 in cali. Other states dont have as many of growers or as good of an outdoor season. So the void is still often filled with cali outdoor.

I'm not a poser I showed pics. Most people who came at me didnt show shit. Now that I'm a little more situated I'm gonna get rid of it in cali. The reason I said dump is because it's quite a bit of weight. I didn't just mean I was gonna dump it for cheap. It's gonna be about 2 months before it's ready but I will let you guys know what I get. 100% Organic, 2 week flush with RO water, hang dried hand trimmed and at least 1 month cure.

"posers with poop" I know everyone likes to say their shit dont stink but I dont see how you could say it does when you haven't even seen it.

C'mon I just looked through your posts and you have no pics just a lot of talk. I'm sure you dont even sell your shit to dispenseries. It might not go outta state but if you dont provide for dispenserys then you dont have any room for that comment. I'm way beyond you bro. I used to crush up in Wa. If you wanna get real try doin a large outdoor grow then tell me it all has to stay in state.

 

[justwannablaze]

Quick question.. Do the company's or what ever they are called that sell the "medical marijuana", do they sell midgrade? Like 20 a 1/8th 120 oz 1600 pound? (That's what I pay on the black market) or do they only sell "highgrade"?

 

[markscastle]

You can find mid grade outdoor for that price if you look hard enough.I`ve been getting $2500 a package for my outdoor all year in Sacramento even if the sales are a bit slow. A+++ though. Been told my outdoor rivels alot of indoor grown .I think the supply is starting to run a little shorter lately and alot of some peoples outdoor is getting a little poorer in quallity and dryer now.By May I think I can start seeing maybe $3000-3200.00.Here`s a picture of some of my weirs;

 

[justwannablaze]

Ahh I see.. the way everyone talks is that you can only get the high grades.. I see no point in wasting money on that when the mids get you just as high and can even smell and taste just as good.. (my opinion) but that looks like some pretty dank. Props man! :)

 

[turtle_bud]

Looking pretty good mark castle.

I recently met another grow here in town. I've been talking with him about the dispenserys. He's been selling them outdoor for the last 5 years. Told me he's been getting 3000-3200 in sac town for the last 4 years. He said he recently went down there and sold 2 pounds for 2600 a piece. This was outdoor buds. He told me my outdoor was better then his and that I need to take it to a dispensery. The more I hear the more I'm excited for my indoor crop to be done. Sounds like there is just a lot of mediocre growers.

 

[markscastle]

I`m sure I could sell mine much faster for a lower price,and I`m temped as I sure could use the money.Mostly hoping that things will start drying up in the months to come and prices will get better.I`ve seen a bunch of newby and low par in Cali this year and I don`t see it selling much at the clubs. I think it`s all going out of state. Where you might think your getting a better deal with low and mid grade weed,that`s not true. Part of what makes higher grade worth more is the amount of THC content.Higher amount -less you need to smoke to get the same effect. Also good luck finding all organic good to your throat smelly stuff for lower prices.Quallity costs more to grow because of the more expencive organic nutes involved and it`s also hand trimmed and jar cured to perfection.All that work adds both to the cost and the quallity and it shows in A+++ buds. Really I`m not trying to sell you guys `my buds` but you really do get what you pay for. Anything less than A+++ that I get out of my garden becomes hash ben ! I`m disabled and I consume my own meds so I`m my own worst pot snob!

 

[amstercal]

Random note: One of the local hydro store owners who also resells used equipment said the number of people turning in equipment has increased dramatically. What do you think? Prop 19 fails and all the newer crappy growers finish out the harvest and pack it up? Sounds right to me. Like all industries, quality and efficiency.

 

[markscastle]

I`m not in it for the long hull myself. I just need the $ to do more seed grows & breeding projects. To much work to grow larger grows for this old guy. Not sure I`ll even do an outdoor again this Spring. It`s not that I can`t grow quality it`s just more work than my old bones can take.

 

[turtle_bud]

Random note: One of the local hydro store owners who also resells used equipment said the number of people turning in equipment has increased dramatically. What do you think? Prop 19 fails and all the newer crappy growers finish out the harvest and pack it up? Sounds right to me. Like all industries, quality and efficiency.

That might have a little to do with it.

I think a lot of people have gotten into the industry because they thought it was easy money. A lot of people have found out that growing pot is difficult. They dont grow efficiently, less yield per plant, use cheap chem nutes, often there is mold or mildew, and they ruined most their work in the harvesting and drying process. Add to the fact that people often dont flush at all or just flush with straight up well water or tap water means harsh ass buds.

With all the competition the city slickers and batty boys are backing out. Probably still holding on to weight or sick of moving it to the east and being 100% illegal about it.

Mark's right. A lot of lower quality weed was grown this year. Especially from a lot of outdoor growers. A lot of first timers and money grubbers. Either people who had no clue what they were doing or people who cut corners for the $ cash and ended up with dried out, moldy mildew buds.

I might be new to cali but I'm not new to growing.

I think the market is going to open up again in a big way. It already seems like it has a little but I think in the coming months prices will go up even more.

 

[Kobe24]

We have to keep searching for Holy Grail strains by making mad seeds.....Something new needs to come step up and shine in its own unique way....Keep the evolution of cannabis going....the bomb ass breeders on this site keep the Darwinian Cycle Rolling

 

[primeform]

I`m not in it for the long hull myself. I just need the $ to do more seed grows & breeding projects. To much work to grow larger grows for this old guy. Not sure I`ll even do an outdoor again this Spring. It`s not that I can`t grow quality it`s just more work than my old bones can take.

Ive always wondered how much money is in it for a good reputable breeder. I still cant imagine its as much as farming. i think its a really cool aspect of the trade and one of the most rewarding. (other then pulling down an insane chronic round of headstash)

 

[Blaze]

If you can actually sell your seeds in volume, breeding is far more profitable than growing. Of course that is a big "IF" - w/o the market for your gear you won't make anything. A single 1K light can produce thousands upon thousands seeds, at even $1 or $2 per seed that is way more than you could ever make off the amount of bud you can get off a single light.

 

[markscastle]

You Got to have some very good or rare genetics to make good money. And it takes many seed runs before you have anything stable enough to call a strain. It isn`t something you can just pick up and do ether ,it takes some knowlege and skill.It isn`t just crossing two strains and hoping for the best.Although it requires a lot of your time, it`s not as much back breaking work as doing bud grows however.I`ve been breeding and collecting seed stock for many years.Having been doing it for long enough I can tell you that only a few strains really make it big and most the time while people remember the strains they forget who made them very easy.I`ve made a lot of money at times, but don`t have a lot to show for my self.

 

[primeform]

thanks for your insight mark. cant wait till you get your projects going again and see what you put out.

 

[vancerz]

mark you only half right we also have pollen chuckers too that make it very hard for breeders to compete.

very rare genetic x very rare genetic = instant profit with no testing being done. countless "breeders" have been caught following this model of selling seeds.
not only do they save time they pump out tons of crosses that people seem to always want, im not going to knock the practice but it has come to bite people in the ass, personally thats what I prefer sometimes as it lets me work the line and choose what I like out of it.