Scorpion Juice knockoff

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dextr0

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Scorpion Juice was ditched by Advanced to create Bud Factor X. They added Harpin protein to act symbiotically with SA and Chitosan. The chemistry behind Harpin protein is solid, and in fact (Eden Bioscience) the company that developed the use of Harpin for the AG industry won a Green Chemistry Award in 2001 for this development.



Unfortunately, with the addition of Harpin and Bud Factor X came a jacked up price tag. I searched for months to find a reasonably priced source for Harpin to make my own Bud Factor X mix. Ultimately running into roadblock after roadblock. Needless to say I have resolved to buying "X" for simplicity sake. Luckily though I get it for a reasonable price and until I can find better price point for making my own I guess I am sort of stuck. :)


EMPLOY® H&T Plant Health Promoter, 2oz. Package
$29.95
Replaces the discontinued Messenger® Plant Health Activator. Makes up to 50 gallons. The original Messenger® product containing the patented Harpin Protein was manufactured by Eden Bioscience. Eden Bioscience was purchased by Plant Health Care, Inc. (PHC). PHC has improved the formulation as Harpin αβ Protein (Harpin alpha beta), also known as Harp-N-Tek. The final product is now called EMPLOY® H&T (Employ® Hort and Turf).

# Reduces transplant shock
# Enhances crop growth, quality and yield
# Increases plant stamina and vigor
# Supresses nematode egg production
# Use indoors, outdoors, in greenhouse, shadehouse, and field production
# Use on vegetables, flowers, turf, trees, landscape plants and more

Application
Mix at the rate of 1/4 teaspoon per gallon. Immerse seedlings for 2 to 5 minutes immediately before transplanting to reduce transplant shock. Apply as a foliar spray every 3 to 4 weeks. Store opened package in a cool, dry, dark place. Use opened package within 3 weeks or seal in an airtight container and store in refrigerator or freezer to keep all season. Use mixed solution the same day.

How It Works
Plant Health Care's Harp-N-Tek Harpin Protein is a naturally occuring protein which fools receptors in plants which are normally used to alert them to the presence of disease. EMPLOY® H&T Harp-N-Tek Harpin Protein contains no pathogens, but the plant "panics" and turns on its self-defense and growth systems. This builds strong plants which can resist a broad array of viral, fungal and bacterial diseases, including some for which no effective treatment is currently available. It also enhances resistance to attacks by insects, decreasing potential for damage. Years of producer experience with Harp-N-Tek products, backed by consistent multi-year replicated and commercial field trials, have shown that Harp-N-Tek results in improved plant vigor, stamina, nutrient uptake, stress tolerance, and reproductive growth, plus reduced nematode pressure. That all adds up to more yield.

Safety
EMPLOY® H&T exhibits a high degree of environmental safety. It is applied at very low rates, has an excellent safety profile, and is rated by the EPA as having the lowest hazard potential. Once the plant's defense activity has been triggered, Harpin Proteins quickly disintegrate in the environment, having never entered the plant and leaving no detectable Harpin Protein residue on harvested plants. Edible crops can be sprayed right up to the day of harvest. The original Messenger product was hailed as a major scientific breakthrough by the USDA and received the EPA's prestigious 2001 Presidential Green Chemistry Challenge Award.

EMPLOY is a new tool for use in Integrated Crop Management (ICM). Product efficacy is based on its ability to activate the plant's own internal defense and growth mechanisms. EMPLOY works best when used in conjunction with good crop management practices.

Important: EMPLOY is a natural product, but is not certified USDA Organic and may not be used as part of a USDA Organic agriculture program.

Harpin αβ Protein 1.0%, other ingredients 99%.

Download EMPLOY® product usage instructions PDF.
Download EMPLOY® H&T product usage instructions PDF.

EMPLOY® H&T may not be shipped to California. We are very sorry.
 
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H3AD_CAS3

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Employ has been one of those little roadblocks, since it is not available in Cali....Oh well !
 
dextr0

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lol i knew SOMEONE would have to say that. Come on in bro, If u cant get that sent to u SOMEHOW, something is wrong. Use your mind.

Im not trying to be disrespectful, Im just saying.
 
Cort

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You will pay lots extra for shipping, but this does work.

Pay with money order or prepaid CC (so your banned address dont show up), ship to hotel in an area your desired product can be sold. Package can be sent under your name or any other. When shipping confirmation hits call the hotel and say you were going to be a guest but meeting was canceled. Request package be sent to you at xxx location. A CC will need to be used (prepaid CC is an option)

This works best at upscale places like Marriott, Hyatt or similar. Motel 6 will give you crappy service.

Expensive, but effective. This does not work for international packages.

I used to do the shipping for an upscale resort so I picked up a trick or two. We got legit calls like this very often so it wasnt an abnormal request.

A friend or family member in a legal area for product would be much more cost effective, but yall already thought of that.
 
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This thread = winning! Thanks!

Well, except for the shipping. Oh well, guess I'll have to buy "X"
/sarcasm
 
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theTinker

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What a great thread. Thanks for the all help contributors.

I read a study regarding aspirin for plants and it seems universally true for all tests after it that it helped boost the immune systems. Thanks for the homebrew info!
 
cheaplastic

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anyone have updates on where to obtain chitosan in bulk?? ive been trying to source a distributor with no avail!

also, how is your homemade brew working budboy??
 
cheaplastic

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also, does anyone know how long this solution stays viable once mixed? weeks?
 
squarepusher

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I don't think Bud Factor X has harpin
1) They are toxic and have a fairly high safety requirement
2) When mixed with water (such as what Bud Factor X is) must be used within 1 day. So it appears there is a degradation process that occurs once mixed, so I don't think it could be sold in a liquid form.
3) Harpin is applied via foliar, BF-X is through root nutrient uptake.

Bud Factor X claims to have 'fractionated plant extracts' which I believe is kelp and Chitosan and possibly SA.


Also, EDIT: Why does a plant need to feel that it is under attack in order to grow to the fullest? Doesn't it seem counter intuitive that a plant will not grow optimally given proper light and nutrients (and other conditions) unless it is under attack? <- something seems strange here
 
cheaplastic

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good input bro!

well i believe its called SAR (systemic Acquired Resistance)

I don't think Bud Factor X has harpin
1) They are toxic and have a fairly high safety requirement
2) When mixed with water (such as what Bud Factor X is) must be used within 1 day. So it appears there is a degradation process that occurs once mixed, so I don't think it could be sold in a liquid form.
3) Harpin is applied via foliar, BF-X is through root nutrient uptake.

Bud Factor X claims to have 'fractionated plant extracts' which I believe is kelp and Chitosan and possibly SA.


Also, EDIT: Why does a plant need to feel that it is under attack in order to grow to the fullest? Doesn't it seem counter intuitive that a plant will not grow optimally given proper light and nutrients (and other conditions) unless it is under attack? <- something seems strange here
 
dankworth

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I don't think Bud Factor X has harpin
1) They are toxic and have a fairly high safety requirement
2) When mixed with water (such as what Bud Factor X is) must be used within 1 day. So it appears there is a degradation process that occurs once mixed, so I don't think it could be sold in a liquid form.
3) Harpin is applied via foliar, BF-X is through root nutrient uptake.

Bud Factor X claims to have 'fractionated plant extracts' which I believe is kelp and Chitosan and possibly SA.


Also, EDIT: Why does a plant need to feel that it is under attack in order to grow to the fullest? Doesn't it seem counter intuitive that a plant will not grow optimally given proper light and nutrients (and other conditions) unless it is under attack? <- something seems strange here

Squarepusher, because the plant changes gears to kick ass and take names. I used to foliar my plants with Scorpion Juice for a time. And when I did, they would beef up, get thicker knuckles, get ribs along their stalks sometimes, and

STINK UP THE PLACE 24 hours later.

Terpene production really took off.
The plant does think it is under attack. And the dormant immune system kicks in, and makes the plant kick ass. Make no mistake. Sturdier, stinkier, more impervious plants.
I need to start doing that to plants again.
That stuff is no joke.
 
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Squarepusher, because the plant changes gears to kick ass and take names. I used to foliar my plants with Scorpion Juice for a time. And when I did, they would beef up, get thicker knuckles, get ribs along their stalks sometimes, and

STINK UP THE PLACE 24 hours later.

Terpene production really took off.
The plant does think it is under attack. And the dormant immune system kicks in, and makes the plant kick ass. Make no mistake. Sturdier, stinkier, more impervious plants.
I need to start doing that to plants again.
That stuff is no joke.

Been wanting to try this out but cant find chitosan anywhere. Anyone have a source? Found it at Agrihouse, $25 for an oz, seems kind of high.
 
TheItalianKind

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I’ve got 250 grams of high quality Chitosan(90% Deacetylation) en route. The price was fair imho relative to some of the blatant rip offs I’ve seen marketed to cannabis growers.

I want to experiment with .35-.5 grams per gallon for a root drench and make some “Scorpion Juice” knockoff with Asprin for foliar applicatins.

I’ll let yooz guys know ASAP.

TIK
 

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