washington and colorado approve recreational use

[reeldrag]

WOW holy shit you guys we all love the plant and what it brings to each of us pain relief,clear thinking,just all around feeling good,ect and yes to some money but at the end of the day we shouldn't be fighting with each other, we are all on the same side my brothers and sisters everyone take a breath smoke a greasy one and mellow. as for indoor vers outdoor price thing I can tell you where i live sun grown outdoor brings the real fire nothing beats the sun. Its hard to give indoor away here now I understand that I'm pretty lucky to live where I do but proper grown outdoor in the RIGHT location will always have more of a punch then indoor because of the awesome level of UVB and before anyone starts I understand not everone can live in places where the sun is just blasting so yes in most cases indoor will win but in those few places in the world where it is right look out cause DAMN!! ;-) and there are alot of eyes on this subject by other states that are having money troubles and if CO and WA prove it can work then it may become a free for all for other states to up their tax base. Love ya all

 

[azmmjadvocates]

Now, will the states stand up to the feds and defend their states rights?

I can say if it were Arizona officials that would be a NO.. I don't profess to know your politicians however my view is Colorado, Washington, CA, and New Mexico have the most support from their state Officials, at least respect for the voters wishes.

 

[azmmjadvocates]

The States should stand up to the Feds and the fact that the Feds or the IRS do not raid or arrest call girls,massage parlors, brothels, and organized prostitution in Nevada, which all of the above careers are considered class X felonies anywhere else that will and can get you more prison and parole time than growing weed shows and proves "Yes, we can make the Feds respect our new laws on legalizing cannabis use just as the Feds respect Nevada laws that legalize organized prostitution and sex for sale there". That is what should be used in the Courts to defend Amendment 64. The Feds cannot be seen to be arbitrary about what they raid, arrest, and prosecute especially in a Federal Court. So Colorado can easily and successfully defend Amendment 64 just using the "legal prostitution" of Nevada that the Feds have ignored for 60 years it seems to me. Other States have local laws that defy Federal laws or Federal mandates and have had no reprisals in raids, law suits, or prosecution by the Feds as well. All of these cases of 'arbitrary enforcement" can be used against the Feds power to act here in Colorado and Washington is my belief and hopefully the lawyers representing Colorado/Washington make that a big point to any Judge/Judges overseeing any Fed suits or actions against Amendment 64 or I-501.

They may be class X in other states, however as far as im aware only illegal immigrants prostitution is federally illegal. Though we are on the same side I don't see that argument as holding so much weight, the question is for a 14th amendment argument, what laws illegal at the federal government are states doing that the government looks the other way? One other may be states allowing illegal aliens to use state education funding or the like that would be illegal at the fed level. Those are the areas you should dig

 

[caregiverken]

I wonder if any companys plan on selling mexican weed here in the US

Is that legal? :confused:

 

[kolah]

Legal or not, that's been going on for years, Ken.The biggest "company" is called The CIA. :)

 

[caregiverken]

yep I bet they are loving this:rolleyes:

 

[Bluzboy]

They may be class X in other states, however as far as im aware only illegal immigrants prostitution is federally illegal. Though we are on the same side I don't see that argument as holding so much weight, the question is for a 14th amendment argument, what laws illegal at the federal government are states doing that the government looks the other way? One other may be states allowing illegal aliens to use state education funding or the like that would be illegal at the fed level. Those are the areas you should dig

Thanks greatly for the input AZMMJ Advocate. Philip Morris and Brown tobaacoo company's and some other corporate interests are here having meetings in Denver with Colorado State Officials on regulations/licensing that will be involved so they can get their feet in the door which means they(Tobacco, other Wall street corp interests) must feel confident enough by using their big buck corporate lawyers and DC lobbyists they can fend off the Feds to start looking for real estate and warehouses which is running the rumor mill here with MMC owners. There are ads in craiglist here by farmers all over offering farm land to lease for growing all ready. That is what is already happening since election day here in Colorado.
Her's some pics from my bloom tent taken last week with a real lousy cell phone camera. The "Derailed Blues Indica aka Blueberry Trainwreck" was on day 28 of 65 and the Purple Jones and Original Chem 1991 were on day bloom 54 of 63 when the pics were shot last week. Harvesting the Purple Jones and Chemdog 91 tomorrow night. Hope you see something you would like to grow and smoke.
Best regards from the Bluzboy AZMMJ Advocate!

 

[azmmjadvocates]

Legal or not, that's been going on for years, Ken.The biggest "company" is called The CIA. :)

True Kolah, however we know the CIA prefers to import drugs that kill or addict. like Heroine or Coke, they make more money in it than weed ; ) Just ask Noriega, lol

As far as Mexico now importing legally, they have to cross other states and nobody prefers dirt weed to top shelf, of course that isn't saying there's not some dirt weed at dispensaries, it just didn't originate in Mexico. lol it's American dirt weed.

 

[kolah]

yep, the same "company" has their big hands in the poppy fields.

 

[kolah]

The climate is Mexico is great for growing some dank shit. I wonder where that all goes? White House? :)

lol@ Amercian Dirt Weed. (actually I like that name)

 

[Ohiofarmer]

^ i 2nd reeldrags comment. And the sun don't always shine in ohio but the outdoe flame is still the same! haha organice outdoor will always beat indoor imo. Take it easy guys.........good to see the threads back on track

 

[azmmjadvocates]

The climate is Mexico is great for growing some dank shit. I wonder where that all goes? White House? :)

lol@ Amercian Dirt Weed. (actually I like that name)

Your right about that Kola as well as the poppies in Afganistan. Mexico does have some good shit, or did anyway before they started pressing everything to death. Many years ago I use to get some crazy lime green, the skunks were out of this world, Usually around OCt. the best stuff came in. fluffy, sticky icky. But at the time I lived on a reservation and most that went into the cities went from there, don't know if they were getting the stuff I had, lol.. not saying I had anything to do with it, it's just a known fact. One of the parent plants from Sour Diesel or Chem I think came from Mexico, unknown parent that smelled like diesel fuel : ).

So your spot on about it's ability to produce some amazing stuff. But as far as the whitehouse goes, naaa, I'd bet Obama has a nice organic grown in a secret garden or a closet grow and his wife takes care of them girls when he's out of town. lol. Kidding aside, All you gotta look at is his personal friends, I got a feeling they are pressuring him much more than us. I hope he will do something now that it's his last term and doesn't have to worry about re election. I really like this waiver idea, it makes it real simple for congress, they already passed waivers previously allowing the cultivation of hemp during war. I think that has about the best chance of passing.

 

[ttystikk]

...and so we've had a few days to digest the news of marijuana's imminent legalization, with strings attached.

The sky hasn't fallen, and neither has the price of pot.

The Feds haven't sent in the tanks, and little old ladies aren't storming the dispensaries- either to shut them down or clean them out!

So now what? All the grow shops I've visited recently look like they're doing the usual business, with the usual suspects...

If there is someone, ANYONE, in the whole damned state of Colorado who was waiting for legalization before touching lips to joint, please introduce me to this amazing creature- she must be riding a unicorn, too!

What's funny to me is that the boogeymen haven't gone away- the cops and the Feds have just been replaced by Big Pharma (ooohhh!!!) and Regulation (aaahhh!!!).

So... seriously. Now what? I'm not holding my breath for 'Bud Depot' to open up between the Liquor Depot and Home Depot, lol, and smoking clubs will be as private as they ever were- your house or mine?- so unless the Tooth Fairy is gonna start passin' out phatties, I'd say that passage of the amendment was more a reflection of reality on the ground than a huge step into unknown territory.

Everything changes. Nothing changed. Put one foot in front of the other. Keep walking. Find what you do best and get to doing it. Share it with those you love. These are the keys to happiness.

 

[El Cerebro]

Big pharma controls the poppy fields in Afghanistant whose production has exploded since we attached afghanistan? Really?

outwest

i'd also be interested in reading specific evidence for this..

 

[sky high]

An easy search http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanistan

Production has risen since the US occupation. 92% of the ILLEGAL opiates originate in Afghanistan according to this link. I could find no similar numbers on "big pharma" and their needs/production/etc. I do, however, have a hard time believing the pharma companies control these fields...just as they will never control every producing MJ garden in the US.

 

[kolah]

The US and Afghani's poppy fields? I think 60 Minutes or one of those shows did a segment on it. It showed soldiers protecting the fucking poppy fields. It's no secret.

Big Pharma and Big Gov are one in the same..don't be fooled. (aka Military-Industrial Complex)

 

[El Cerebro]

like i said, evidence please. (primary sources preferred)

 

[anonymous555]

Hi guys checking back in here.........I still really don't see what the big deal is, I mean if you want to smoke pot, just live in one of the many decriminalized areas around the country. People are too naive, I haven't even begun to hear any real logic behind these political stooges arguments. All these figures they toss around are ignoring the negative aspects of legalization. They claim that it will hurt the cartels? Yeah right, they will just increase the production of harder drugs, and instead of growing pot in our national forests , they will be manufacturing meth. Meanwhile once the illegal stigma of mj is gone Americans will look for other outlets to become edgy. All the while the Americans who have no where to turn to make money in a subverted and leeched economy will participate in desperate and possibly far more harmful activities. The problems with society and economy are not changing, we are just being distracted from them. To think we almost had a hope of saving our country with Ron Paul, and now this. Pathetic thing is , we do it to ourselves , so in their eyes it's justified, they're just giving the little babies the daddy they never had. They're laughing at us bros, they're laughing real hard.

 

[kolah]

like i said, evidence please. (primary sources preferred)

Like my Dad used to say.."is you arm broke?"

If you're truly interested it won't take but a minute to google it out. :)

 

[sky high]

Found it!