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ADT will not install a security sys cause i have a grow on my property

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ADT will not install a security sys cause i have a grow on my property

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#2
I wouldn't argue with them over that...lol
Prob best to dismantle the grow and then have the security system installed, I mean why would you want the first person with the capabilities to bypass your system to KNOW your grow is there and all....o_O
 
#4
Federal law should have no bearing on whether or not they're willing to do business with you. But reading this, I can see our getting a security system installed becoming a whole lot more difficult, all things considered. Makes the dog option stronger.
 
#5
I grow and i have ADT,I didnt tell them i grow because its none of their fucking business.Its not very bright to let ANYONE know you grow,i read a post once that said for each person that knows you grow the odds go up 20% of you getting ripped or raided.
 
#6
I am in the same boat, I have had them (ADT) for 3 years, they dont know shit about my grow and when I am done with their "contract" in March Im moving to a better company, but thats another topic
 
#7
A good buddy of mine got popped years ago via a burglar alarm. Once it goes off....the cops have (or had then..maybe it's different now but I doubt it) "cause" to enter.....and that's what happened to my buddy. 15 plants in a non-med state and a 500 lot of diazepam.... needless to say...he was screwed for years and eventually just stopped doing drugs/growing altogether.

good luck/be safe everyone

s h
 
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sky high said:
A good buddy of mine got popped years ago via a burglar alarm. Once it goes off....the cops have (or had then..maybe it's different now but I doubt it) "cause" to enter.....and that's what happened to my buddy. 15 plants in a non-med state and a 500 lot of diazepam.... needless to say...he was screwed for years and eventually just stopped doing drugs/growing altogether.

good luck/be safe everyone

s h
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well then fuck an alarm system lol. one could get jacked and jailed at the same time
 
#11
reeldrag said:
put in your own system they have ones online that alert your phone or laptop pretty badass and noone but you knows it there
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Now that I like..and they ain't all that expensive either.
 
#12
That's just stupid. There's no federal law or any law against doing business with someone who is involved with drugs. You didn't offer to pay them in buds did you? They're fucking uptight idiots who lost a sale, that is just dumb. If it's an indoor grow how did they know about it anyways?
 
#15
I had ADT instal an alarm in my grow with added motion sensors and a smoke alarm. I called and asked to speak to a supervisor. I asked if they would instal an alarm in a medical cannabis grow and they said "of course, it's legal in California". I told them that due to the sensitive nature of the situation I would like a verbal confidentiality agreement from you and the tech that does the instal. She agreed and we did business. The time or two I've had a problem with my system I just call and ask for the same tech that did the instal, he's a nice guy and seems to have zero interest in what's going on in there. He doesn't ask questions, he doesn't look around, he's very professional and just does his job. I had a good talk with the guy when he was here for the instal as well. It was put in 2 years ago and I've had zero issues.

I've had a grow robbed before and it ain't happening again. o_O
 
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Seamaiden said:
Federal law should have no bearing on whether or not they're willing to do business with you. But reading this, I can see our getting a security system installed becoming a whole lot more difficult, all things considered. Makes the dog option stronger.
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Again, I must interject here.

A dog is not a security system, and expecting them to be one (no matter how well trained) does nothing but put you AND a defenseless animal at risk.

Dogs do not have higher cognitive function. People do. It's a no contest situation even if you have the best dog in the world. It's not safe for you or the dog.

Don't put your faith in an animal that you can't even communicate with--and don't betray their blind faith in you by expecting them to know when and how to protect you. They don't and can't know those things.

Find another way. I'm aware of what happened to you and understand the impetus in wanting to prevent any repeats in the future. I just want to see you protected, and a dog won't do it.
 
#17
The point above about an alarm trigger being sufficient probable cause for police to enter your home is important, especially if you're doing anything that's even one teeny tiny bit outside the cops' interpretation of the law- and as we all know, that's as variable as his mood.

What good is a security notification system really going to do you? They just ensure the cops show up after something bad happens- they do not actually prevent anything. If you want security and deterrent, then get metal doors, mount them in heavy frames, bar the windows, etc, etc.

I have a dog, but I'm with Squiggly; how is it supposed to know the nature or extent of any given threat? At best, it's just going to make noise- and any perimeter sensor can do that.
 
#18
I mean don't get me wrong. Dogs are great animals, and many times you might end up in a situation where they do protect you.

They always can. It's just both the reliability and their understanding which is in question.

I normally wouldn't say anything, but as it's already something I've admitted to on these forums I feel like I can say it again to make this point clear:

As a young man I used to case and rob houses. Those who left their houses protected only by animals were the easiest to topple.

90% of the houses I robbed with dogs, I was petting the dog as I robbed their owner.

The other 10% I gave them some hot dogs or used a dog whistle to confuse them.


Dogs are really a shit security system, and the only way to change that is to beat the living shit out of the dog and make it hate all humans.

As ttystikk mentioned, any sensor--even without an alarm company--can do the same job a dog does and actually do it much more reliably and better. The added benefit is you don't endanger an animal that doesn't know any better, and you safeguard yourself considerably more.
 
#19
like Delae said......toss the guy a nugget or 2 for his troubles. Take it easy
 
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squiggly said:
Again, I must interject here.

A dog is not a security system, and expecting them to be one (no matter how well trained) does nothing but put you AND a defenseless animal at risk.

Dogs do not have higher cognitive function. People do. It's a no contest situation even if you have the best dog in the world. It's not safe for you or the dog.

Don't put your faith in an animal that you can't even communicate with--and don't betray their blind faith in you by expecting them to know when and how to protect you. They don't and can't know those things.

Find another way. I'm aware of what happened to you and understand the impetus in wanting to prevent any repeats in the future. I just want to see you protected, and a dog won't do it.
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Just. Not. True.

Schutzhund training does teach dogs these things, and it accomplishes exactly that. A security system isn't going to help me while someone's beating me in the head. A well-trained Schutzhund dog will. I'm going to go for full Schutzhund III with the dog we get.

A gun won't help me, either, if it's sitting in a drawer, and I am just not given to walk around packing heat.

Surveillance will only catch it on tape so people can be titillated watching it over and over again. ONLY a living, breathing thing can achieve prevention or protection at the time of attack.

I can't afford a 24/7/365 human, nor could I tolerate one being around me all the time like that. But, I can afford, and will be perfectly happy having as my constant companion, a good, well trained dog. I am really looking forward to it, to tell the truth.

The more I learn about it, the more I know I can do this. The only limiting factor for me is my physical ability, or lack thereof, when performing certain types of training.

Look at some of these dogs and what they can do.
 
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