Seamaiden
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I'm going to continue insisting we stop using the media term of 'global warming' and start calling it climate change. We won't experience an overall warming, we're going to experience, ARE EXPERIENCING, more extreme, and greater extremes of weather. Watch shit like hotels fly away. Watch more hurricanes hit further north, and further inland. Watch the shit hit the giant fan!
Now, as a result of the push to get 'green', power companies like PG&E (one of the largest power suppliers in the state, along with SoCal Edison and San Diego Gas & Electric) are now experiencing some income problems due to so many homeowners and businesses adding solar arrays (and gas lines blowing up, we can't leave that out). While they've been directed by our legislature to have a minimum of 10% of supplied power coming from sustainable/renewable sources (E.G. our home is fully solar, but also grid-tied, meaning we're feeding power back to PG&E's power grid) and they don't want to pay for it. In fact, they're now bandying about the idea of making homeowners like ourselves pay for grid use. I'm sure the CPUC will allow this.
Ken, you keep insisting there is no water shortage, but I believe that your view is perhaps skewed, and doesn't adequately address the facts. The facts are that what we and our plants need is potable water, not just salt water, and the waste involved in creating potable from seawater is staggering, not to mention the energy involved is significant. There is nothing efficient about it, only solar stills would be anything resembling efficient and, let's face it, if they were so good at producing all this potable water, wouldn't we already have companies, especially bottled water companies, lining up to make it for us? The fact of the matter is that aquifers are drying up, real farmers are really experiencing this, directly, for real. And it's been happening for decades. There is no good excuse for being wasteful with good, potable water, none whatsoever, IMO.
Would that I could, I would live on nothing but all this seawater. Unfortunately, even that is becoming unlivable to sea creatures due to acidification. I recently learned that it's becoming harder to find good quality pearls due specifically to acidification.
Back to California. SoCal gets a portion of its water from Arizona, but certainly not all. I believe I've already pointed out two major sources of both Bay area and SoCal water. I'm sure there are more. That's not to say that the issue between CA and AZ over the Colorado River isn't significant, but only a portion of that issue actually has to do with the water itself. It is also to do with the fact that the river, as a boundary, moves, which leaves one state smaller and the other larger. Historically, IIRC, that's been one of the biggest issues between the states.
That, and fucking Zonies driving down the 8 pulling their shenanigans. ;)
SHENANIGANS!
That's not correct. We get most of our power from out of state, Texas, Oregon and Washington are our main suppliers (hydro-electric dams). I can drive to a local hydro-electric generation station just a bit upcountry from me, but those are few and far between. We have, for the most part as voters, eschewed the notion of being self-sufficient with specific regard to power generation and so have these conglomerates that purchase power from other states. There was, back in the 90s, a big case here of collusion between some power suppliers, SDG&E being one of them, to keep rates artificially high.
Now, as a result of the push to get 'green', power companies like PG&E (one of the largest power suppliers in the state, along with SoCal Edison and San Diego Gas & Electric) are now experiencing some income problems due to so many homeowners and businesses adding solar arrays (and gas lines blowing up, we can't leave that out). While they've been directed by our legislature to have a minimum of 10% of supplied power coming from sustainable/renewable sources (E.G. our home is fully solar, but also grid-tied, meaning we're feeding power back to PG&E's power grid) and they don't want to pay for it. In fact, they're now bandying about the idea of making homeowners like ourselves pay for grid use. I'm sure the CPUC will allow this.
Ken, you keep insisting there is no water shortage, but I believe that your view is perhaps skewed, and doesn't adequately address the facts. The facts are that what we and our plants need is potable water, not just salt water, and the waste involved in creating potable from seawater is staggering, not to mention the energy involved is significant. There is nothing efficient about it, only solar stills would be anything resembling efficient and, let's face it, if they were so good at producing all this potable water, wouldn't we already have companies, especially bottled water companies, lining up to make it for us? The fact of the matter is that aquifers are drying up, real farmers are really experiencing this, directly, for real. And it's been happening for decades. There is no good excuse for being wasteful with good, potable water, none whatsoever, IMO.
Would that I could, I would live on nothing but all this seawater. Unfortunately, even that is becoming unlivable to sea creatures due to acidification. I recently learned that it's becoming harder to find good quality pearls due specifically to acidification.
Back to California. SoCal gets a portion of its water from Arizona, but certainly not all. I believe I've already pointed out two major sources of both Bay area and SoCal water. I'm sure there are more. That's not to say that the issue between CA and AZ over the Colorado River isn't significant, but only a portion of that issue actually has to do with the water itself. It is also to do with the fact that the river, as a boundary, moves, which leaves one state smaller and the other larger. Historically, IIRC, that's been one of the biggest issues between the states.
That, and fucking Zonies driving down the 8 pulling their shenanigans. ;)
SHENANIGANS!
