Dudded, Stunted, and Runted plants...

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Totally correct that type/strain of pm is prone to roses and black berries and all sorts of plants, not cannabis, the battle with that strain of pm was only found on cannabis. Lots and lots of research went into this back in the day, it was destroying crops left and right and dam near no fungicides would kill it off.
 
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I relized one of my WIFI moms is starting to do the dud look on the cuts I was just about to take. Im going to take and mark them, turn then into teens and as long as they still look like dud ( which isn't hard to mis) and of to the local lab to have it tested. Fukin sit is annoying and very scary, as I said earlier in this thread, it completely took out a few rather large crops in a row. Lost alota cash and a house cause of it. Very Scary ( I also think the gov is trying to eradicate us so once it goes legal in cali they can swoop in the industry leaving the lil guyz with nothing). Does anybody remember back in the mid to late 1990z when Canada was trying to do there own government grows underground (in huge man made caverns unger ground) trying to corner the med industry. If I remember correctly that's where the MK ultra came from ( its a known gov created strain) anyways this powder shit started showing upon everybodys indoor plant and low and behold it was PM (powder mildow). Fun cause it got traced back to the MK Ultra clones that magicly made outa there labs and into the hands of growers in Canada and then made its way over here. Funny cause the dude that taught me how to grow got ahold of the MK and then gave it to me and we both had pm with in weeks of flowering. If you've evr seen PM take over a room it is devastation.

Also I haven't used avid, forbid, E20or anything other than merit in probably 5+ years. The merit maybe twice a year cause of fungas nats and thripes . Im a soil guy so that come with the territory.
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predatory nematodes and spinosad would leave no reason for merit. I personally don't like spraying with poisons and find once you start you never win in the long run.
 
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Baba G ya for sure now pm is really easy to deal with, we're u a grown back then? Cause I was and this was a huge issue that hit the whole cannabis industry hard back then.

I haven't foylar sprayed on my crop before with merit, it does say on the directions that u can , I've always used it as a soil drench , thrips live in the top layer of your soil, and fungus not larvae lives in your soil, I am also aware that you can use diatomaceous earth which I have on my moms and smaller pots but it's almost impossible to do that on Large Pots or beds.
 
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its fusarium or also some systemic type/or effect possibility from PM. i have a dud GSC (no mildew) in right now that was bright as day what @DowNwithDirT was saying. 3rd week was instantly noticable around the rest. cut was one of the heartiest and healthiest of the bunch too.

RH does have a HUGE impact on the duds is what im finding. last summer i was in 20%RH conditions (super dry west colorado) and had a lot more dud branching than now (im at a steadyy 60-70%RH in flower, and yeah at week 6 all the way til done) and it seems to keep the duds at bay, thats why i always keep my humidifier on and make sure everything is lab quality clean, so harder for mold or pathogens to exist.

what RH are all of you guys doing in flower? are you seeing swings? what VPD you guys working with? there has to be an answer to this
 
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grower4life said:
Baba G ya for sure now pm is really easy to deal with, we're u a grown back then? Cause I was and this was a huge issue that hit the whole cannabis industry hard back then.

I haven't foylar sprayed on my crop before with merit, it does say on the directions that u can , I've always used it as a soil drench , thrips live in the top layer of your soil, and fungus not larvae lives in your soil, I am also aware that you can use diatomaceous earth which I have on my moms and smaller pots but it's almost impossible to do that on Large Pots or beds.
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Why is PM easier now? What product do you use now that wasn't available then? I use copper sulfate sprayed on or sulphur vaporized. Those have been around for some time...
 
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I have never used some of the pesticides you guys have mentioned and this problem still existed.

I wonder if checking brix of the ones affected vs the non might give some insight. Also checking the brix of the moms before taking cuts as well.

I dont know about you guys but my first few runs of new varities, duds were almost non existent in my experience they have always crept in after every run.
 
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Aladeen OG , haven't had PM in a super long time, 5 to 6+ years, and haven't had to use any fungicide, my a RH is about 45 to 50 in veg and moms, about the same in flowering , some times hit 55 but the dehumidifiers handle that
 
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I don't use any fungicide and no miticides, if i do i use sns 217 or 214, I run a very clean operation and very rarely introduce cuttings from anybody and if I do they get quarantined in a separate area and then flowered a few time in separate area to make sure there not pm prone and bud rot monsters or crap, lets stop the tit for tat, no need to beet a dead horse yo,
 
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baba G said:
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Why is PM easier now? What product do you use now that wasn't available then? I use copper sulfate sprayed on or sulphur vaporized. Those have been around for some time...
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I use ozone. It runs 15 on 30 off round the clock. I'm a firm believer this prevents any PM issues. It takes a bit to dial it in exactly though, to much and you get necrosis resembling late K deficiency almost immediately. It doesn't run when we are in the flower room though. Real bad for the lungs.
I don't do anything in veg other than constantly use compost tea. Foliar application and root drench weekly.
 
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grower4life said:
Aladeen OG , haven't had PM in a super long time, 5 to 6+ years, and haven't had to use any fungicide, my a RH is about 45 to 50 in veg and moms, about the same in flowering , some times hit 55 but the dehumidifiers handle that
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nor have i, or have seen any outer effects if there is, you never know if its in there systemically unless you nuke it... even then.... just optimal grow conditions can easily keep it at bay... but could still be a contributing factor is all im saying, no reason to snuff out any possibilities...

you know what they say about theories, once you have one youll always be looking for anything that leads towards what youve thought. gotta keep an open mind. for all i know we have garden gnomes, yo
 
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or your girl is going in there when your not around with a fly swatter... just smackin shit
 
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Aladeen OG said:
what RH are all of you guys doing in flower? are you seeing swings? what VPD you guys working with? there has to be an answer to this
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RH swings from 55 to 75 in flower. VPD targeted at 1.07 to 1.14.
Vegb is finally stabilized... After the heat wave we had I closed off my fresh air intake and installed an AC and humidifier. Veg is now between 70 and 75F at a fairly constant 65%.
 
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is everyone vegging under t5's? any HID veggers having this problem?
sorry for so many posts just curious about that as well
 
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