@delae632 I think it has to do with the health of the moms and only selecting your most vigorous cuts no imperfections or they get tossed. I see the vigor of my moms slowly fading. This run I took 50 cuts of my Snowdog I will pick 6 of the best and use those for my moms. Another thing i notice is when i see uniformity in the roots, leaves, and overall vigor that seems to be a good indicator of a healthy mom and proper cloning conditions.
While I agree that mother health is extremely important as well as selecting cuts from a larger population than you need, it hasn't proven to make a huge difference in my experience. Even when my mothers are tits I still get duds. I took 200 cuts for my current run in hopes of using the best 80. I thought I'd easily be able to thwart Dudzilla with those numbers but i was wrong. So far I can spot 6 or 7 duds in the plants that are being run.
My mother health is an issue from time to time and I believe it's from whatever this issue is..I've even lost mothers due to it. I try to cycle them regularly to help but like I said, even the healthiest mother has thrown out dud clones. It's a total crap shoot.
I currently have one of a duplicate of every strain I have outdoors. I'm hoping to cook some of this shit out of them and to restore some vigor over the summer. Then I'll take new cuts and ditch the host plants and older mothers. I'm praying that this helps...even if a little bit.
@delae632 your pics are dead on for what we have going on over here.
some serious monsanto genetic modification esq shit going down.
Weeks ago all the talk was about fusarium. This just sucks
It's scary shit for sure....especially since not ONE single person knows what the hell it is.
@delae632 That white bubba DUD looks chunkier than the frostier branch next to it! If given time would that nug have sugared up you think? Weird that the dud doesn't have the glands but even weirder it's chunkier than your non DUD...
That's one of things that can happen with the duds baba. The buds actually get bigger. lol Mostly they're smaller and larfy but sometimes they smash the healthy stuff. Once you see it there's no chance of it frosting up. The calyxes are super tiny and don't swell like normal plants. I let the Tahoe and WiFi in my pics go just under 100 days in hopes of salvaging that crop....just didn't happen and I ended up with $500 potatoes that took me a year to off. I've even tried to blast the stuff....don't waste your time with that either. lol The yield on concentrates is shockingly low and the shit smells and tastes like burnt popcorn kernels. I've tried to do what I can with the stuff but at the end of the day...no matter how bad it hurts...all dud material is simply compost.
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Did you guys ever spray the shit out of your veg plants with hardcore miticides?
I did, once when I took over this new place. It was a disaster and I had to. It is possible that chemicals can cause these mutations.
Delae, I have gotten dudding like what you show on some of those pics on my kosher kush once and I am 99% sure it was from heat stress. Hairy fuckin buds with less frost and little smell.
I have sprayed with the nasties but it is not a regular thing. Honestly I don't even spray preventatively really, just when there's a problem, which is rare. One thing I do consistently is set off an attain bomb as flip.
It's most definitely not heat but the effects do look very similar. I've got 2 tons of ac in a 4 lighter so it stays about 74 in there. I did have an ac start to fail on me several runs back and the higher heat definitely resulted in a higher dud ratio. It really seems like some kind of stress reaction...like heat, but its total random...at least from what I've experienced.
