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Stumpy420 · Oct 31, 2015

Thank you @seafoam and @Power OG !

SpitXFire · Oct 31, 2015

greenboot said:
do you believe it is possible to find a better rendition of a mother plant from an (s1) seed or do you think it is not possible?

Absolutely possible. The great thing about elite clones is the works already done for you. You know it's a proven winner, it's the gem pheno out of a population. But a s1 recombines those gene so to speak, you won't get identical progeny, so get ready to hunt. For instance jackmayoffer found a superior(?) pheno than the gg4 out of a 500 seed s1 hunt.

Tnelz · Oct 31, 2015

Mob(mother of berries), mass super skunk, Chemdog #4. Hell ya boy!

SourDank · Oct 31, 2015

Tnelz said:
Mob(mother of berries), mass super skunk, Chemdog #4. Hell ya boy!View attachment 546693

Nice score brosef

Growin Grass · Oct 31, 2015

Tnelz said:
Very seriously contemplating leaving my job and full timing it

I've got a long time and a lot of learning before I could wisely contemplate that, but that's the idea. Beating myself up in a machine shop for the next thirty or forty years sure isn't what I want to do.

ADD: Although, if I could use my experience to start working on automated light dep setups, that would be another avenue to look down, and one that wouldn't be taxed to all high heavens...

Seems like more money can be made helping people grow cannabis then just growing it these days

greenboot · Oct 31, 2015

SpitXFire said:
Absolutely possible. The great thing about elite clones is the works already done for you. You know it's a proven winner, it's the gem pheno out of a population. But a s1 recombines those gene so to speak, you won't get identical progeny, so get ready to hunt. For instance jackmayoffer found a superior(?) pheno than the gg4 out of a 500 seed s1 hunt.

so you are telling me that i may have to pop 500 seeds to find the one that is better than the mom?

SpitXFire · Oct 31, 2015

No not necessarily, just how he did it. People find elites all the time while running low count seed pops. But in selection, the more you can run the better, always. Refer back to NT's post. Those guys can find and do shit in a month what takes us smaller guys years. But yes you may have to eventually pop 500 to find one that is superior. Who knows. It's all probability.

Edit:I know it's contradictory

Canman · Oct 31, 2015

Hi Tnelz... Here's a 5g nug of the Sour Tangie...Have a good one.. Canman.. Love this stuff lol

Tnelz · Oct 31, 2015

Canman said:
Hi Tnelz... Here's a 5g nug of the Sour Tangie...Have a good one.. Canman.. Love this stuff lolView attachment 546706

Nice brother. Keep it coming!

Tnelz · Oct 31, 2015

greenboot said:
so you are telling me that i may have to pop 500 seeds to find the one that is better than the mom?

So u could possibly find it in a single seed. Would just have to be the right one. All boils down to chance. The truth though is u could run those 500 and not find something better as well. If it was easy everyone would have elites. In saying that though once u grow for a while(not saying u haven't been) u will see the elites are awesome but anytime you run a pack of seeds u should find something awesome. Ya know. I got very caught up in chasing them down for a long time. Found a bunch more importantly I found a bunch of great people in the process. Sorry I'm high and getting off track. As long as what u have is fire ur good. Just cause it isn't elite to the world dosent mean its not every bit as good.

greenboot · Oct 31, 2015

SpitXFire said:
No not necessarily, just how he did it. People find elites all the time while running low count seed pops. But in selection, the more you can run the better, always. Refer back to NT's post. Those guys can find and do shit in a month what takes us smaller guys years. But yes you may have to eventually pop 500 to find one that is superior. Who knows. It's all probability.

Edit:I know it's contradictory

Tnelz said:
So u could possibly find it in a single seed. Would just have to be the right one. All boils down to chance. The truth though is u could run those 500 and not find something better as well. If it was easy everyone would have elites. In saying that though once u grow for a while(not saying u haven't been) u will see the elites are awesome but anytime you run a pack of seeds u should find something awesome. Ya know. I got very caught up in chasing them down for a long time. Found a bunch more importantly I found a bunch of great people in the process. Sorry I'm high and getting off track. As long as what u have is fire ur good. Just cause it isn't elite to the world dosent mean its not every bit as good.

i feel the same way.. i just wanted to know what others are feeling about it.. i don't understand why people are so anti selfing.. well i kinda do,, i just don't fully agree.. i have found some amazing/easyto grow/ high yeilding/powerful fem crosses in my garden. i can tell you first hand that i own a selfed version as well as the original cuts of Chemdog #4, 91 and Chemdog D,, and the 91 s1 and Chemdog D s1 keepers that i carefully selected, are both blowing the originals out of the water…my originals are kind of old right about now.. but they still kick ass when they get special attention..

SpitXFire · Oct 31, 2015

That's the vigor. Like Tnelz said. Who gives a fuck about what it is as long as its fire. Imo the friends are more important

gardnguyahoy · Oct 31, 2015

So...i just had a thought. does posting on an internet forum everyday and making internet friends make me(us) a huge nerd(s)?

SpitXFire · Oct 31, 2015

Only if you host d n d chatrooms with them

greenboot · Oct 31, 2015

SpitXFire said:
That's the vigor. Like Tnelz said. Who gives a fuck about what it is as long as its fire. Imo the friends are more important

agreed!!!!

Power OG · Oct 31, 2015

greenboot said:
do you believe it is possible to find a better rendition of a mother plant from an (s1) seed or do you think it is not possible?

I've seen better pheno's come off regular filial generations, even better in bx in my opinion, with a s1 you will get a pretty close copy to mother, so I dnt think it could be better because you didn't add anything to the equation. Mom + Mom = Mom or close, but mom + dad = chances of pheno's being better than the parents.

Power OG · Oct 31, 2015

Also a fem cross of 2 completely different females, then the possibility becomes higher in my opinion, Fem A x Fem B = combination of fems A and Fem B & fem hybrids. So imo a fem cross is much better than s1's.
Positive Vibes

greenboot · Oct 31, 2015

Power OG said:
I've seen better pheno's come off regular filial generations, even better in bx in my opinion, with a s1 you will get a pretty close copy to mother, so I dnt think it could be better because you didn't add anything to the equation. Mom + Mom = Mom or close, but mom + dad = chances of pheno's being better than the parents.

i here you,, i'm just speaking from a present position, when you have 20 year old strains that lost some of its vigor and punch that she had in there first few years.. An s1 is usually a revitalized version of the old mother it came from. at least thats what seemed to have happened with my situation..,

greenboot · Oct 31, 2015

Power OG said:
Also a fem cross of 2 completely different females, then the possibility becomes higher in my opinion, Fem A x Fem B = combination of fems A and Fem B & fem hybrids. So imo a fem cross is much better than s1's.
Positive Vibes

i agree.. i happen to have some amazing fem crosses.. and a gang of seeds in the fridge of some s1's and some crosses.. mostly chem crosses.. just warms my heart,lol

Tnelz · Oct 31, 2015

gardnguyahoy said:
So...i just had a thought. does posting on an internet forum everyday and making internet friends make me(us) a huge nerd(s)?

If u are than we r too bro.lol

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