Large Plants Vs Germination Dates

Explain why that matters? Am I not yielding from the sides of the massive plants? I know indoors the side yields are much less. Why take that factor away?

Because indoor Growers are not constrained by height, unless they choose... It just keeps the comparisons fair and equal.

ok, so lets say I yield ten pounds also. I would say pretty good. Most of my pots have 2 yards, first year cost being 120$ a yard. (I hand mix and test my own soilless mix from scratch) Add in the nutes, IPM costs, smart pots, sprinkler gear, everything. I spend around 320$ a pot the first year. (Much less cost the next year)

I usually get 1800 for my tops, so lets say I did a great job.

That's 17g+ profit.

What about the indoor?

I thought your numbers would be higher... so you say 10 pounds? And how long?

I'm sure an indoor grower can get 2 grows in the same amount of time.

Your tops go for 1800 but what's all the "other" go for? How much "other" stuff do you get per plant?
10 lb plant with 5-6 lbs "other"?
Wouldn't you be better off with 7lbs all tops? Now imagine that all without having to use 8 yards of soil per plant lol

Looking at the numbers that you guys are rolling out there, I'm beginning to be convinced that indoor growing is the way to go.

I am actually surprised about the outdoor grows... The numbers, the time, and the area used, are not very efficient.

I can only imagine the difference in quality, as indoor grows are not sprayed with chemicals to resist pests, and do not suffer from pest damage.

And when grown hydroponically, are subjected to only the finest environmental parameters at all times.

Sorry, had to pull my tarps and wake my daughter.

ken dog said:

I thought your numbers would be higher... so you say 10 pounds? And how long?

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Anybody telling you they average 10+ lbs is full of poop. I germed on March 23, and my main harvest the plants are out of the ground by Nov. So, 8 months.

ken dog said:

I'm sure an indoor grower can get 2 grows in the same amount of time.

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you tell me. How long did your buddy take from clone to harvest?

BTW, Steven DeAngelo at Harborside says 60% of his meds are still indoor grown. So the market demands indoor right now. IMO, 10 years down the line it will be 80% outdoor, and of that 80% will be turned into concentrates.

ken dog said:

Looking at the numbers that you guys are rolling out there, I'm beginning to be convinced that indoor growing is the way to go.

I am actually surprised about the outdoor grows... The numbers, the time, and the area used, are not very efficient.

I can only imagine the difference in quality, as indoor grows are not sprayed with chemicals to resist pests, and do not suffer from pest damage.

And when grown hydroponically, are subjected to only the finest environmental parameters at all times.

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Then you are omitting the size of the outdoor grows. The sky is the limit. I am talking hundreds of hectares. Show me the largest indoor grow today, and I will post some Jamaican grows of hectares.

Also 100 indoor vs 100 outdoor.........who wins? Numbers matter also right?

Interesting conversation.

MrRojos said:

Your tops go for 1800 but what's all the "other" go for? How much "other" stuff do you get per plant?
10 lb plant with 5-6 lbs "other"?
Wouldn't you be better off with 7lbs all tops? Now imagine that all without having to use 8 yards of soil per plant lol

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My top quality. Not top nugs. Based off genetics usually.

Another thing, people be deppin also ya know.

Yes, numbers matter... But so does area.

There is certainly more outdoor area than indoor area, of that there is no doubt.

My friend took three and a half months from clone to harvest... So, 2 grows, conservatively speaking.

Also, you said 10 pounds is inaccurate?... What is accurate for the 72 square foot plant we were discussing earlier?

10 pounds is hard to hit. Only pros hit that as an average and usually with certain genetics. I grow a good variety, so some plants will never hit 10 lbs. Like cookies IMO. So what I was saying is 10 lbs average is most likely an overstatement.

However if you have 100 blue dreams going, then you might average more like 15.

Got it...Thanks.

Also, what is the cost of Sq ft with indoor grows vs outdoor? I am looking for property right now, and it seems I can find with a good house on the property, 37+acres for around 250k and up. So that's 1.612e+6 divided into 250k is around $6.448 a sq ft.



Time to harvest some Sky Lotus from Bodhi. Peace out playa's.

I'll try and work out some numbers... I have to tie down some clones myself .

Yes, interesting discussion.

Ahh snap. Current Culture.

I remember the Max Yield show they first showcased that bad boy about 10+ years ago. I wanted one so bad. Glad to see some are still using it.

ken dog said:

I have a friend who has approximately, an 8 foot x 9 foot grow... About the same square feet... And 12 pounds was pulled in 90 days.

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Would like to see that best i ever pulled in that area of Sq feet 8 pounds dry that is 32 pounds wet takes a shit load of buds to make a pound .. and that as with 5 - 6 weeks VEG with a Commercial strain Clones in 75 Sq feet and your getting close to bud rot as buds are to close and pact in ..
I personally think He is BS'ing you

Rojo's what measurement are you using haha surely not one from this planet
Bulldog i do not know what your getting at ?? Seems your a bit angry .. But does it really matter ..
What month a person germs only thing it does do is cause you to use power ,
For some they like to start in JAN or Feb pending on there goals for instance that last picture you saw of mine was last years grow

Germinated in Feb allowing me time to sex on 24 hr lighting indoor once i truly had females i could clone off them and still have enough time to have 1 - 10 - 100 - 1000 clones ready for MAY transplant ..
So its all about what a growers goal is
And Fact is no matter what obviously a longer vegged bigger plant will yield you more ..
Its amazing what a extra 4 weeks out door Sun can achieve to a plant or 8 weeks

Now i think for many they may fall into trouble when starting early they might find there plants starting to flower , As the sun hrs are still below veg times etc and they planted them out door to soon
And that will in fact slow everything down ..

But to think that a plant 2 months older thrown side by side with germinated seed will not compete with the newly sprouted seedling
your dead wrong there
The older plant will be a giant in comparison to the one germinated in MAY or late germ months

Bulldog420 said:

ok, so lets say I yield ten pounds also. I would say pretty good. Most of my pots have 2 yards, first year cost being 120$ a yard. (I hand mix and test my own soilless mix from scratch) Add in the nutes, IPM costs, smart pots, sprinkler gear, everything. I spend around 320$ a pot the first year. (Much less cost the next year)

I usually get 1800 for my tops, so lets say I did a great job.

That's 17g+ profit.

What about the indoor?

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Again that depends on what a persons goal is not going to blow smoke up anyone's ass here but to think that members on forums here are the only ones growing weed or Big grows is kinda funny ..
I personally saw a grow op 5 million dollar grow op fully auto years ago
PS its no longer functioning as he is in jail
But she was a 100 kilo a week operation that is 220 pounds brings a new meaning to organized crime

ken dog said:

Nope. .. I don't care either way... Just wondering why you thought the way you did, and waiting for some evidence or a reputable link.

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Bulldogs does some o the best outdoor grows iv seen on this forum.not that i care abou germ dates as its not relavent to me but over the couple o years iv known bulldogg he has more than proved he knows what he,s talking about.

Yes, I could tell right away... which is primarily the reason I entered into this discussion.