What's The Hottest New Organic Fert Line!!

oldskol4evr said:

never thought about that,good idea,think i will do that,,only used it once so far,,them plants seemed to love it imediatly,gonna water again tonight with it

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you should top dress barley casts tho to really help get your soil right. its a good way to introduce valuable proteins i aint knocking that @Organikz, the LAB relates in a similar way via stimulation and up regulation of ISR, JAR and SAR

Ecompost said:

thanks bro, its all the microbes and soil but she is pretty, this is a re grown Grease monkey from Exotic

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love it myself,,mama would have to chop that one

oldskol4evr said:

love it myself,,mama would have to chop that one

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after many pretty ladies, not least whitle blaze, i have gotten cold to the process. but its a full moon soon enough so time come

Organikz said:

I like BOX. It's the closest you can come to a fungus gnat fighting adventure. Brewing sludge teas. Have you ever grabbed a handful of dregs from a compost neem kelp tea....yuck... I finally dropped them with 2 neem/karanja/ewc/kelp/mosquito dunk teas over a 1" layer of MBP and a dreg top dress. Now I have Santa's beard sticking.out of the mulch lol.

I read his descriptions and almost bought that nature's breath or whatever. I must say I'm impressed by it.

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I use a combination of homegrown nematodes, and a range of entomopathogenic microbes. if you dont over do BOX, it is unlikely you will get fungus gnats unless you brought them with you from the soil at the store

Organikz said:

Yes not general non organics. That's a box of bs. They use sulfuric acid to process the products. Even Neptune does for their fish fert.

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I honestly have no idea why anyone would need to do this? just dont over sell the bottle sizes, stop adding bulking agents and use fermentation techniques that are known to prolong the shelf life and long term stability. it just laziness otherwise :-)

@Organikz Neptune's uses phosphoric acid not sulfuric..
It's their base stabilizer for all their liquid fish ferts.
Hyrdolyzed Fish
Phosphoric acid
Nitrogen - 2%
Available Phosphate - 4%
Soluble Potash - 1%

Organikz said:

@Ecompost owns or works for BOX. They are utilizing enzymes and other natural organisms to process. Very cool line up.

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I am the weird one who loves to grow anything and all day stare at microscopes of soil and read old Russian growing books from the 19th century

MirrorZen said:

@Organikz Neptune's uses phosphoric acid not sulfuric..
It's their base stabilizer for all their liquid fish ferts.
Hyrdolyzed Fish
Phosphoric acid
Nitrogen - 2%
Available Phosphate - 4%
Soluble Potash - 1%

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Thanks for the clarification buddy. On a side....
Most people probably have calcium uptake issues later in life via GI accumulations of PAcid in the lower colon via petrifying meat and so go on to have Skin, hair, Teeth, Muscular and Skeletal related health concerns

MirrorZen said:

@Organikz Neptune's uses phosphoric acid not sulfuric..
It's their base stabilizer for all their liquid fish ferts.
Hyrdolyzed Fish
Phosphoric acid
Nitrogen - 2%
Available Phosphate - 4%
Soluble Potash - 1%

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"In a wet process facility (see figure 1), phosphoric acid is produced by reacting sulfuric acid (H2SO4) with naturally occurring phosphate rock. The reaction also forms calcium sulfate (CaSO4), commonly referred to as gypsum. The insoluble gypsum is separated from the reaction solution by filtration."

Now let's say all that sulfuric acid didn't deconstruct during the reaction....

Organikz said:

"In a wet process facility (see figure 1), phosphoric acid is produced by reacting sulfuric acid (H2SO4) with naturally occurring phosphate rock. The reaction also forms calcium sulfate (CaSO4), commonly referred to as gypsum. The insoluble gypsum is separated from the reaction solution by filtration."

Now let's say all that sulfuric acid didn't deconstruct....

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may be it should be Venus Nutrients and not Neptune. I am not aware of an abundance of Sulfuric acid on Neptune.
I suspect they have nothing on that produced by this years forest fires :-) We have had one or two volcanoes as well recently. i suspect worrying too much about the role of Sulfuric in the Phosphorous cycle wont do anyone any good long term. i do agree, we might limit our use however in light of the natural options. I am old enough to remember acid lakes and people in dinghy's liming the shit out of the place

Ecompost said:

after many pretty ladies, not least whitle blaze, i have gotten cold to the process. but its a full moon soon enough so time come

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hahahah

Ecompost said:

I am the weird one who loves to grow anything and all day stare at microscopes of soil and read old Russian growing books from the 19th century

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it shows in your work bro,nothing but love and life

Ecompost said:

may be it should be Venus Nutrients and not Neptune. I am not aware of an abundance of Sulfuric acid on Neptune.
I suspect they have nothing on that produced by this years forest fires :) We have had one or two volcanoes as well recently. i suspect worrying too much about the role of Sulfuric in the Phosphorous cycle wont do anyone any good long term. i do agree, we might limit our use however in light of the natural options. I am old enough to remember acid lakes and people in dinghy's liming the shit out of the place

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eco you think the LAB and malted barly make a good tea,maybe a little alfalfa in there too,,getting pounded by rain,my girls laying on the ground this morning,garden is loving it,i swear the beans have grown 3inches in last 2 days,but while i have a good soak threw all the soil,im thinking be a great time to put some these critters i just made in there,the uplift wouldnt hurt right for about 36 hours

My new vegative foliar spray. I guess its a bottled nutrient. Green tea kombucha.

Organikz said:

My new vegative foliar spray. I guess its a bottled nutrient. Green tea kombucha.

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im with ya but we got to put it in something,lmao

oldskol4evr said:

it shows in your work bro,nothing but love and life

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thanks. i am lucky to have friends who gift me seeds that appear to like my place :-) And of course I am super lucky to have the opportunity to try all my ideas in the real world.

I am still getting my arse whipped by somethings, and this i love too; its like a hunt for me. i dont chase animals, but i understand the energy this activity generates and I think its similar to me when i get a new problem I have never seen before, on a new plant i dont yet understand, or when I see a link between soil, plant and human life that hits me in the face.

I urge everyone to get in to soil in a big way, we are going to need armies of people tomorrow to repair whats been done to our intellect and our land. This here thread is part of a much needed global movement of people really trying to understand what the fuck is going on, and to see if there is more they can do to help. I adore this and everyone I meet here that has passion for what they do

Organikz said:

My new vegative foliar spray. I guess its a bottled nutrient. Green tea kombucha.

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this works a dream too. The tea has good levels of Ca in my experience and its very resonant, a wonderful pick me up :-)

eco,is it possible to get imo from a culture from a compost pile,,that damn rice and curd is rocking in that pile

Ecompost said:

this works a dream too. The tea has good levels of Ca in my experience and its very resonant, a wonderful pick me up :)

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I've been told to mix 1/2 cup to the gallon and bubble for 24 hours...i would think the bacillus would die from aerobic bacteria though...how the hell do you use it Alan lol

Ecompost said:

thanks. i am lucky to have friends who gift me seeds that appear to like my place :) And of course I am super lucky to have the opportunity to try all my ideas in the real world.

I am still getting my arse whipped by somethings, and this i love too; its like a hunt for me. i dont chase animals, but i understand the energy this activity generates and I think its similar to me when i get a new problem I have never seen before, on a new plant i dont yet understand, or when I see a link between soil, plant and human life that hits me in the face.

I urge everyone to get in to soil in a big way, we are going to need armies of people tomorrow to repair whats been done to our intellect and our land. This here thread is part of a much needed global movement of people really trying to understand what the fuck is going on, and to see if there is more they can do to help. I adore this and everyone I meet here that has passion for what they do

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i couldnt talk mama into trying the curd off the buckets,she wouldnt even let me,but when i took it to the pile a snuck a little,no taste at all ,surprised me,and i aint died or sick so couldnt have been that bad,lmao